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Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: Sancho on March 28, 2002, 07:42:07 PM

These clips are from frame one of Invasion Sicily last week.  These films are encoded in divx 5 (http://www.divx.com) codec.

guncam 1 (http://www.56thfightergroup.net/films/gc-is1-sancho1.avi) (512kb) - this one is me shooting a Fw-190 off my squaddie Vector's tail.  You can see the 190 firing and Vectors jug is the second plane visible briefly passing right to left.

guncam 2 (http://www.56thfightergroup.net/films/gc-is1-sancho2.avi) (655kb) - here is a Bf-109 that was in the wrong place.

4 shots (http://www.56thfightergroup.net/films/sicily1.avi) (2.6Mb) - this film includes the two above and two more guncam shots and audio track

I would like to make these film clips look more like real guncam, including an introductory text message describing the footage and maybe a short "countdown" sequence going into the clip.  Does anybody have a link to an actual guncam clip from WW2 that I can refer to in making my copy?  Thanks!

BTW, hitech film viewer is awesome. Thanks for making it! :)

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: Kweassa on March 28, 2002, 09:43:33 PM

Sancho, I have a question.

 How can you zoom at that camera angle without the parts of the plane showing?? I tried to move my view and zoom out inside the cockpit of a 109, but it didn't work. So I tried it at external, but it also was unsatisfactory. So I presumed this sort of angle is achieved in P-47s only, and tried it, but still couldn't get it! Wherever I tried it in - inside and outside of the cockpit - there's always either a part of the cockpit or a plane showing up...

 :confused:

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: Sancho on March 28, 2002, 09:48:42 PM

before zooming, you move head position up and to the side a little bit so that you have a mostly unobscured view forward.  You won't be able to get rid of all the canopy framing, but this isn't a problem.  Save the AVI at 640 resolution, then crop the film in your video editor program to show only the part of the screen we're interested in.  I cropped to 352x240 which is the resolution for NTSC video.  Make sure your cropping area removes any canopy framing and you're good to go.  This may work better or worse in different aircraft.  Another thing you might try is make your gunsight completely transparent and just view right through it, then crop.

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: AKIron on March 28, 2002, 09:54:18 PM

Sancho, I took the liberty of running 'em through the projector a bunch 'till they were scratched up. Unfortunately, without the original uncompressed avi files they lost more quality than I wanted. Anyhow, here they are:

gc-is-san1-divx5 (http://lynn.freewebspace.com/stuff/gc-is-san1-divx5.avi)

gc-is-san2-divx5 (http://lynn.freewebspace.com/stuff/gc-is-san2-divx5.avi)

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: Sancho on March 28, 2002, 10:03:51 PM

looks awesome akiron. :)  what program did you do that with? the original uncompressed avi's after reducing to 8bit grayscale and cropping to ntsc dimensions are around 20MB in size.  divx seems to do a good job of compacting them eh?

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: AKIron on March 28, 2002, 11:31:45 PM

A bit of a convoluted process Sancho. I used Quicktime to add the scratches. Quicktime doesn't recognize Divix so I used VirtualDub to covert to uncompressed. Added the scratches with Quicktime and saved as avi. Back to VirtualDub to recompress with Divx.

Divx does pretty good, but Real Producer with the Real codec 8 does better IMO.

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: hazed- on March 29, 2002, 07:48:42 AM

great films but one thing i did notice was the real lack of hits compared to the damage!

one ping and those planes lose parts!!

even mg151/20mm dont cause that sort of damage!

great looking films though.

Sancho could i ask you what programme you use to splice/append 2 or more clips together? Im having trouble finding this sort of utility.(edit ) found some but still like to know which you use.

found:

videomach
aviedit

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: BenDover on March 29, 2002, 10:46:46 PM

here's some real gun cam footage (http://www.akenworthy.btinternet.co.uk/guncam), 8 films in all, gif format

too bad it doesn't tell you the plane which is shooting at it


ps, those most be some insane pilots, most of the time it looks like they'd crashed into the damn plane!:eek:

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: hazed- on March 30, 2002, 02:18:03 PM

sancho what programme did you use to make the introduction for your film?
does it do fade outs/ins etc?

looks really good and ties the whole thing together.

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: Sancho on March 31, 2002, 06:42:23 AM

did that all with videomach.  I had to "draw" the text screens with a 2d graphics program (ms paint would work fine).  videomach can import still pictures as film clips.

edit: Looks like you've used videomach to from reading your other posts.  I don't think it does transitions, wipes, etc.

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on March 31, 2002, 07:30:57 AM

i hear a luftwhiner

Title: brief P-47 guncam clips
Post by: BenDover on March 31, 2002, 11:48:12 AM

looks like that link don't work, well i've moved the files to my website's server(was down at the time), but that doesn't let you view ftp:(

so here're direct links:
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/B17One.gif
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/Bf110ONE.gif
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/Fw190DOne.gif
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/Me262One.gif
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/P47One.gif
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/SpitOne.gif
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/StukaOne.gif
http://flightsimmers.net/va/mrbd/storage/guncam/ZeroFive.gif