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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on March 29, 2002, 01:18:58 AM
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I dont mind night so much (the black sky and stars stuff) because it only lasts 5 minutes, but dusk and dawn are totally intollerable as they last over an hour and make visibility almost as bad as pitch black.
add to that night rolls around every few hours in AH.
most of my squadmates (and I) log off till its over.
check the logs, they will show that when twilight, night and dawn are occuring the numbers drop due to the difficulty involved in seeing the enemy (the actual plane not the icon)
please make dusk,night, twilight only happen once every 24 hrs.
thank you.
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23 or 25 hours would be better so that it doesn't hit the same time every day.
F.
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Nah.
Make it dark once every 24 hours.... same time every day.
...that way a guy will know when it's safe to take a dump or make a beer run.
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Please email me when there is night. Then I know I can safely log in knowing that there is no Fester shooting me down...:D
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Less night is good.
That or someone please buy me a new monitor so I can gamma-cheat like so many other people do :)
J_A_B
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agree, my f/r drops significantly during night and dusk/dawn (Kyro II), which makes it more or less unplayable for me. I wonder if others have the same problem?
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I like the night, dusk and dawn. Shifting it to once in 24 hours (prolly one of the US time zones) will cause many players not being able to fly during night because of time-zone differences.
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Originally posted by Apar
I like the night, dusk and dawn. Shifting it to once in 24 hours (prolly one of the US time zones) will cause many players not being able to fly during night because of time-zone differences.
Was willing to write exactly the same...
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u dont need a new monitor.
Get thistool ( Powerstrp) (http://www.entechtaiwan.com/ps.htm) and u can adjust ur gamma settings with keys on ur board when u have it open during u fly.
And BTW setting gamme is not cheat :D
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... and unless somebody is on that I enjoy talking to, I just log. So, for me, night = chat session or log off.
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Not trying to be a smart ass, but night is pretty cool. Everytime I log in and it's the sunset time or night I curse, because it means I will not have a fun dogfight (icon chasing not that fun).
In the other hand, night/dusk/dawn allows me to switch to a different mood and it's usually bomber time, tank time, sneacky base capt time. I like to plan/use the cover of it.
It would be great if at night icon range would be lowered to 1K, making the use of radar night fighters a must have. It would be a fun way to introduce them and make people fly them.
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I like the night once every 24 hours idea. Set it for 3am eastern so i'm in bed :)
DES
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"me me me me me me..."
Night is supposed to be hard. Night is a about the thrill of the hunt, and finally making that one kill.
If you're upset that night is ruining your 30+ kill streak, then maybe you need to log off once in a while.
I believe that nighttime has a genuine place in a WW2 aerial combat sim, and wouldn't mind seeing a little more of it, but am happy enough with its duration now.
My 2 cents.
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Originally posted by Dux
believe that nighttime has a genuine place in a WW2 aerial combat sim, and wouldn't mind seeing a little more of it, but am happy enough with its duration now.
My 2 cents.
And you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
But let me ask you this:
How many true "nightfighters" do we have available at this time in the planeset?
Prior to the arrival of nightfighters in WW2, what percentage of the air combat happened at night?
We've got dayfighters and we're trying to do day ACM in a nighttime environment. Even our day environment is visually limited compared to what you actually see in RL flying. Night in the arenas... well, I'll be charitable and say that it's not any better. :)
Maybe later, when nightfighters appear in the planeset.. but now? My opinion and my technique is log or chat.
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Even with the advent of night fighters.. I wonder how many "fights" took place. It seems to me the cloak of darkness and radar were the weapons. Sneak up on them and suprise. It doesn't seem there was much in place that could actually track a fighter using evasives.
Right now night time translates to shooting at icons. That is all. The night/sunrise/sunset effect is by far the best I've seen in an on-line sim... but it serves no real purpose.
Now that the "gee-wiz" factor is wearing off for most... how about giving it a rest for a bit? Nothing I hate more than loggin in to play for an hour and seeing the sun is just disappearing in the west. I log right back out.
AKDejaVu
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Night sucks.
Wheres my P61?
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I don't disagree with that, Toad. As it is now we have to do night runs with day fighters (which is still fun). Most night engagements were nightfighter vs bombers, or nightfighters vs nightfighters (protecting the bombers)... they were not nighttime "furballs" as we have in here.
My main point is this: Be careful about making blanket, extreme statements like "Remove night completely" or "limit it until it's insignificant". This sim has many, many elements to it... there is something for everyone. If you start removing every little thing you don't like, you'll end up with Furball Island within a year, and nobody will like it. Options are a good thing. Don't limit them by thinking only about yourself. We all pay to participate in this game, we all log in and do the things we love to do.
Aces High has the potential to expand into a really amazing sim...it's great now! Let's not restrict it by having tunnelvision. You may get your way this time, but next time you may not be in the majority, and the thing that you love will get removed.
Something tells me that if HT didn't want the nighttime, it wouldn't be in the game.
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Originally posted by Citabria
...please make dusk,night, twilight only happen once every 24 hrs. thank you.
Dux,
Note that in my first post I merely said that I agree with Cit.
Nowhere (that I can find) in his first post or in my support of that post did either Cit or I say that night should be eliminated.
I didn't suggest "removing" night in my second explanatory post either. My view of night was merely repeated there, with a bit of explanation with respect to the current planeset. I usually either log or just chat with friends till the sun comes up and one can see to shoot. But that's just me.
I think his suggestion would allow "enough night" that it would not become "insignificant" and those that enjoy it would still have their opportunity to do so. That is my opinion, however.
There are many things in the game that are "limited" and these "limits" are sometimes adjusted by HTC either due to their own unilateral decisions or perhaps by player comment. Perk planes like the F4U-1C might be considered an example.
Check my sig... you like the night? Good on ya! Fly it, enjoy it.
I'm sure you'll allow me the same opportunity with respect to posting my views of night as a gameplay issue. No one talked about removing it....... just "adjusting the limit". I think you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion there, or perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
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Originally posted by bigUC
agree, my f/r drops significantly during night and dusk/dawn (Kyro II), which makes it more or less unplayable for me. I wonder if others have the same problem?
Same problem, but it wasn't this severe with 1.08. Now I just log off if it's dusk or dawn.
I'm all for getting rid of night completely at this point.
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Toad, I owe you a clarification... only the first paragraph was aimed at you; the definition of historic nightfighting. I agree with that fully and did not mean to lump you in with the rest of it. Sorry about that.
As for the other part... right there in the title of the thread in bold type... " request to remove night..."... this is what is bothering me.
And I do believe fully that everyone has entitlement to their opinions, I'm just making sure that the "wants" don't get outshouted by the "don't wants".
Bottom line: I think there is room for everybody.
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Just in case we're voting or something, I like night, including dawn and dusk. Different strokes...
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Eliminate night completely!!!
End the darkness!!!
Night is for hosers!!!
Really scared pilots only fly at night!!!!
Night I rebuke thee!!!
Sorry Dux...couldn't resist:)
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Lol, Rude!
...and you're right... I am a hoser.
:D
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I agree on the Orange. Gawd it HURTS to fly in that.
Solution:
5 minutes of orange as sun goes up -> 2 hours of daylight -> 5 minutes of orange -> 2 hours of night.
AND SYNCRONIZE the MA and CT so that when its day in the MA, its night in the CT, and when its night in MA, its day in CT.
That way those that cant stand the night in the MA can switch to CT for the 2 hours and viceversa. It would also make way for the introduction of night fighter, night bomber raids, night GV actions, etc.
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I like the night, it is one of the things that sets AH apart from other sim games.
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If you don't like flying at night, why not try something else for a change? Take a PT boat or a vehicle out, or man a ship or field ack gun. I often barely notice the passing of the night, as I'm usually too busy having fun in an Osty - great under cover of darkness.... :)
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Mark me for loving nighttime. Maybe less frequently, every 8 hours? Same transition.
I like challenging environments, give me any environment, I'll adapt.
"I love the nighttime, I love to boogie, on the disco sceeeeeeene!"
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YOYOYO Rip. Nice car :-) but u should bring it over to germany to enjoy it on the "Autobahn".
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Originally posted by Dux
I don't disagree with that, Toad. As it is now we have to do night runs with day fighters (which is still fun). Most night engagements were nightfighter vs bombers, or nightfighters vs nightfighters (protecting the bombers)... they were not nighttime "furballs" as we have in here.
Did those kind of furballs exist in real life during day time?!
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OK OK....so instead of getting rid of night....how bout installing a nightlight like my little one has in his room so the Boogey Man doesn't gettem!
Hajo
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0300 EST would be a good time to have it every day.
lazs
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Fester, the moon illuminates your P38 nicely.
Please fly more night missions where you have difficulty seening us. ;)
P.S. - I'll get you and your dang P38 one of these days. (said in a lite-hearted manner) :eek:
Kuben
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Originally posted by DES
I like the night once every 24 hours idea. Set it for 3am eastern so i'm in bed :)
DES
Sounds like a good compromise to me.
I still say get rid of it. There is nothing quite so frustrating as finally finding a half hour to fly and log into the arena during night time. It really does ruin the fun for many of us.
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Right now night time translates to shooting at icons.
This is what the night means to mean. That and basically hunting Icons, not planes.
My ground impact ratio goes way up also.