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Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Pand on April 02, 2002, 12:25:23 AM
After PATCH 2, I have had nothing but problems with my computer locking up.  I have never had a problem before with Aces locking up before this patch.

Almost always it will HARD-LOCK, and I have to Reset the computer.  Once it just crashed me back to the desktop.  

I have completely removed aces high and downloaded the full version of the latest install.  I installed it and it made absolutly no difference.

Please release a new patch that resolves this problem.  I have had a lockup EVERY time I've played since the patch, and always happens during my first flight within 10-20 minutes of flight time.

PLEASE HELP!

Pand
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Naudet on April 02, 2002, 06:30:26 AM
Pand, same problem here, since patch 2 i got freeze ups, desktop boots and discos like never before.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Lephturn on April 02, 2002, 06:52:11 AM
Hmmm, well there are those who do NOT have these problems, including me.  Please post your system details, OS, DX version and video driver versions.  I may be able to give you some things to try that may help.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Modas on April 02, 2002, 07:37:43 AM
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Originally posted by Naudet
Pand, same problem here, since patch 2 i got freeze ups, desktop boots and discos like never before.


What sound card are you running?  I was having the same problems with the release of 1.09.  I had a SB audigy mp3, switched back to SB Live xgamer and ALL my problems went away.  Game runs rock solid w/ FR in high 40's / lo 50's.  Don't know if I had a bad card or what, but it might be an area to look into.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Widewing on April 02, 2002, 07:46:17 AM
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Originally posted by Lephturn
Hmmm, well there are those who do NOT have these problems, including me.  Please post your system details, OS, DX version and video driver versions.  I may be able to give you some things to try that may help.


I had a lockup last night (4/1/02) about 11:45 PM EST. When I tried to relog, the main server was closed, but I could get into the CT. Did the server dump again or is this a problem on my end?

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Airscrew on April 02, 2002, 09:12:00 AM
Widewing, I think the server dumped last night,  RRR was in the process of field capture and my screen froze, and I had to reboot.  When I logged back in MA was closed.   Spoke to shoulman today and he had same issue.
Title: Seems ok
Post by: Pand on April 02, 2002, 02:18:51 PM
AMD 1800XP+
512 DDR
SB Live Platinum
Gainward Geforce3 128MB Ti200

After tearing everything apart, I upgraded to the Detonator 28.32 drivers adn all seems to be okay, as of now -- knock on wood =)
but the change in driver has dropped my FPS a little from 80 in 1600x1200 to 70 in 1600x1200 -- but it's better than lock ups!

Thanks for the help guys!

Justin
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Kanth on April 02, 2002, 04:57:40 PM
same here with lockups plus now my frame rate is 9

framerate used to be fine.  Something in the last couple of patches has dropped it down and now I lock up while in the game and have to hard reboot.

Celeron 300 O'Clocked to 450
256mb 100mhz SDRAM
Geforce2 256
Abit BH6 MB
latest drivers downloaded for hardware.
DirectX 8.1
OS Win98

Kanthy
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Aurelius on April 02, 2002, 05:10:51 PM
Your system being overclocked could have something to do with it. What drivers do you have installed for the gforce? Try installing these (http://www.nvidia.com/docs/lo/532/SUPP/12.41-W9X.exe)
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Dux on April 02, 2002, 05:17:12 PM
Okay, I'm glad to hear that others locked up last night just before midnight EST. First time it's ever happened to me so I guess it's not the same thing Pand is dealing with.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: FOGOLD on April 03, 2002, 12:48:59 AM
A lot of lockups are sound related. Try sliding the sound accelerator in Dire3ct X Diag back a notch.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 03, 2002, 02:30:52 AM
Several lockups here also. If they are sound related, I have an Audigy with latests drivers update from Creative (W98). Video, sound or whatever related, I have lockups only with AH and since the last patch (hard reset needed).

I've found that my audio card is using same interrupt as my GF3 (both using 5),  but no conflicts at all are shown in the system. In any case, any way to reassign the IRQ to the Audigy?

K7 700 (slot A)
Soltek SL77KV
384Mb PC133
GF3Ti500
SB Audigy (SB0090)
Saitek X36 USB
W98 (non SE)
DX81
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: FOGOLD on April 03, 2002, 03:10:01 AM
Definitely shift your soundcard to a different slot (if you have one).

I don't know, I know these problems can be a bind, with so much advice from different people, but sharing IRQ,s on your Geforce is definitely a known problem.

Strange all you guys are having probs since the last patch though. I've been OK apart from more discoes.

1800XP
Geforce3 Ti500 21.83's
MSI KT7266 Pro
Audigy Player,
Win XP Home DX 8.1
ISDN

Good Luck.

PS. Listen to Lephturn guys. He IS the hardware man!:D
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 03, 2002, 03:40:01 AM
FOGOLD, thanks for your reply. shifting the Audigy to a different PCI slot will change the IRQ used by it?
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: FOGOLD on April 03, 2002, 05:38:26 AM
Yep, that's right.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Lephturn on April 03, 2002, 08:08:22 AM
Naw, Bloom25 is the hardware man.  :)  I've just been around the block a few times with hardware for gaming, especially AH.

If I only had a nickle for every time crashes/pauses/graphics errors in AH were caused by Detonator driver I'd be a rich man.

MAND,

With PCI devices, IRQ's are not assigned to your cards themselves, but to the PCI slots you plug the cards into.  On todays mainboards with many integrated devices, some of the slots often share IRQ's with other system devices or other slots.  There are normally a couple of slots that are shared, namely the first PCI slot below the AGP slot and normally the 3rd slot.  I bet your sound card is in the top slot right below your AGP slot.  Before you move it though, you should find out what slots you have other devices plugged into, and what slots are sharing IRQ's with other things like your USB controller.  Your mainboard manual should have this information.  If you don't have your manual, just tell me which board you have, and what devices you have plugged into which slots and I can give you a recommendation.

Is that an Abit K7A-100?  I don't recognize K7-100... what manufacturer is it?
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 03, 2002, 09:25:30 AM
LOL Leph, you won the bet. I'm using just the PCI below AGP slot, third one is used by the ADSL card. The funny thing is that ADSL card and Audigy are not sharing irqs, only GF3 and audigy are sharing IRQ 5.

The MB is a Soltek (http://www.soltek.com.tw) SL77KV SlotA, 1 APG, 5 PCI and 1 ISA. I actually have first and last PCIs free (well, first with the SB). I'll try placing the SB in the last PCI slot above the ISA.

Still not sure it be an IRQ related problem ... ... perhaps a hardware acceleration issue for sound, perhaps even unrelated with sound card at all, but present since last patch was installed, first with an old AWE64 ISA, two lockups in a week and one total loose of sound and then with the Audigy (installed yesterday) with two lockups.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 05, 2002, 03:33:56 AM
Audigy switched to another PCI slot, no more lockups for the moment.
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Naudet on April 05, 2002, 06:02:10 AM
How do i find out if IRQs are shared?

Edit: Found my IRO settings:

this were the old ones:

IRQ
9 Ethernet adapter
10 Soundblaster 128
10 Geforce 2 Ti
11 ISDN Controller



Now i put my SCard in a new slot and have:
IRQ
9 Geforce 2 Ti
10 ISDN Controller
11 Soundblaster
11 Ethernet Adapter


are the later IRQ setting better?
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: straffo on April 05, 2002, 07:47:46 AM
yes






that's short ... I know :)
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 05, 2002, 07:53:28 AM
Naudet, IMO, sharing audio and video IRQs is the worst situation.

In your actual case, you are sharing audio and network IRQs, but I suppose that you rarelly will be using both devices extensively at the same time
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: Naudet on April 06, 2002, 02:46:14 AM
I am using the Ethernet adapter just for my DSL connection.

Is there a possibility that this will cause connection probs or something similar?
Title: Problems with LOCKUPS
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 08, 2002, 04:11:54 AM
Naudet, if you have time and patience for experiment, try several combinations of your cards using different PCI slots till you get video, dsl and audio using different IRQs. If you are not using printers or com ports, disable them from the bios, this will give you three free IRQs more.