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Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apache on September 18, 2001, 11:01:00 AM
Too funny.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 18, 2001, 11:06:00 AM
Yeah... VMF this or JG that.... all in niks.
lazs
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: moose on September 18, 2001, 11:45:00 AM
I dont mind nikis

The zeke now has a use for me. eats em alive 1v1.  :)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 18, 2001, 12:09:00 PM
moose... I don't mind niks either.   Just pointing out the false advertising.
lazs
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: moose on September 18, 2001, 12:37:00 PM
oh, i agree with you wholeheartedly on the false advertising
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Fester' on September 18, 2001, 01:09:00 PM
people can fly whatever they want.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Erlkonig on September 18, 2001, 01:22:00 PM
I saw a Blue Knight flying as a Rook before.

Those liars!
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apache on September 18, 2001, 01:55:00 PM
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Originally posted by Erlkonig:
I saw a Blue Knight flying as a Rook before.

Those liars!

Am I missing sumthin"?
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: moose on September 18, 2001, 02:26:00 PM
Blue Knight

flying as rook

blue knit flying as a rook.

lol.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Urchin on September 18, 2001, 02:28:00 PM
LOL, thats kinda amusing.  Yea.. Blue "knight" flying for "rooks".  

On the "false advertising", eh, who cares.  I'll hop into an La7 or a N1K2 if I am having trouble getting kills in a 190 or 109.  A lot of people fly them exclusively, no matter what squad they are in.  I could be wrong, I think a lot more than "LW" squads fly planes that they "shouldn't" be flying.  About 3 RAF squads and 3-4 USAAF squads come to mind.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apache on September 18, 2001, 02:28:00 PM
lol, The Blue "Knights" have nuthin to do with the AH Knits. The Blue Knights go way back to the early 90's.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Drex on September 18, 2001, 02:44:00 PM
...and a moose flying a plane isn't funny?

Drex
Blue Rook
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Wotan on September 18, 2001, 03:07:00 PM
yeah can you beleave they are nither "blue" nor "knights" wtf up with that?

false advertising all round?
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Pkrl on September 18, 2001, 03:23:00 PM
Somebody must be awful damn bored.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apache on September 18, 2001, 03:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by Pkrl:
Somebody must be awful damn bored.

Uh, yeah, right, junior.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: sling322 on September 18, 2001, 03:35:00 PM
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Originally posted by Urchin:
I'll hop into an La7 or a N1K2 if I am having trouble getting kills in a 190 or 109.

What?!?!  A self-proclaimed LuftWeiner who has troubles getting kills in a 190 or 109?!?!  Say it isnt so!!  I thought only the most talented pilots flew those hard planes and therefore should have no problems killing in them because of their evident superiority.   :rolleyes:
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Urchin on September 18, 2001, 06:08:00 PM
Yea sling, isn't it horrible to know that pilots that are better than you are go through streaks to?
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: AKSWulfe on September 18, 2001, 07:21:00 PM
What's funnier is that the people who are most vocal about their quarrels with the N1K2 also fly it when they are frustrated.

The plane is so whacked out, I would never fly it online. What do I mean? I took it offline and managed to hold the nose up until it hit 0MPH. All the time I had control of the plane, the plane went into a stall/spin for one revolution and immediately corrected itself while exiting from this stall/spin. It was at 120MPH after dropping 500ft and had pulled itself out of the dive.

Even a Pitts can't do that. Anyways, I can't stand the plane and have never flown it. But the ones who remind us every day of every week how screwed up the plane is or this or that end up getting half their kills in it every tour.

The double-standards and irony is so thick here, you could use it as syrup on your pancakes.
-SW
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Wotan on September 18, 2001, 07:26:00 PM
you wanna name names SW?

who are these nik whiners who go out get all these nik kills?

I hate nikis but i have for the most part no real trouble killing them.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: AKSWulfe on September 18, 2001, 07:31:00 PM
Zygote, Tac, Grunherz... I forget the rest of the names, but I'm sure in some other N1K2 threads I could be refreshed rather quickly.

The "half of kills" was an exaggeration (in some cases), but they definitely take 'em up for more than A spin.

I didn't mean to sound like I was implying anyone in particular, just that I was implying some people do like to play both sides of the field.
-SW
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: DanielMcIntyre on September 18, 2001, 09:05:00 PM
Lol I've had 8 sorties in the N1K this tour, killed 1 chog, b17's, a lanc and N1K's only.

All uber planes.

Am 6:0 my favour in N1K vs N1K, and have a total of 18 kills in N1K.  And I use it a lot lol  :)

All up I have 538 kills?

that means 520 kills were obtained in other AC?

Get your facts straight b4 you start naming names m8

  :D
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: brady on September 18, 2001, 09:09:00 PM
I spend more time in the George and Zero than almost every other member of my squad all put together, I love German planes, but I hate flying theam, Except the 109F4, and the JU 88, I Use the George to vulch in, better ammo load out, I pick planes to fill the mishion requirement, I fly the P 38 a lot because of the ordance load out for atack mishions. I m in a German squad because of my Historical interest in German aircraft, I am a fan of AXIS aircraft in general, I love the 205 I just havent used it much this tour. I intended to make more use of the Ki 61,I change favorate mounts every few weaks or so a couple tours ago I hardely had any kills in the George,tour before last I had a ton of kills in the Zero,I prefer Japanese plane in general because I like to turn fight not Zoom and Boom (my favorate thing is to kill Georges with a Zero :) )

 So what if I am in a German squad and fly other Axis planes........
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: DanielMcIntyre on September 18, 2001, 09:13:00 PM
BTW the main reason I've been taking N1K up is to figure out how the bloody thing does what it does and also to kill N1K's.  I've also done this with the spitfire, p51 etc <- planes which I'd normally never fly because they don't suit my style of flying, but it's good to know what they can do and what their limitations are, I would have done this offline yes, but I could'nt get the drones to cooperate   :D
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 18, 2001, 11:51:00 PM
Thx to Moose I did my first Zero flight --> Kisskisshughug moose.

"and the niki, yes I love going up killing a poor nikidweeb who don't understand how the other Niki turns better"..."yes, I admit, I'm cheating ... I use this thing called ACM".

Frenchy says:
Dogfighting is like bodybuilding. Lift 300# everyday, have no problem dancing with Fatty's mon. Dogfight in a P47 everyday, do miracles in a Niki.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: hazed- on September 19, 2001, 08:37:00 AM
what is all this crap?

so what if their squad says JG or RAF and they decide to fly a NIK?

jesus the fact that im in an LW squad is because i prefer those planes.SOMETIMES ooooh what a shock! i prefer OTHER planes!!
isnt it a shocker! and i am a hipocrite because of that?

I fly what i like, I choose to fly 90% of the time LW stuff.You people need to think of something more important to spend your time on than all this crap.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 19, 2001, 08:41:00 AM
notice how all the little self proclaimed "superhptmn.'s" from stafenknobgoblin are very defensive? LOL.   I guess giving yourself "rank" tho is a mild jump from simply proclaiming you are the "best sticks"  in the most "poorly modeled planes".  

Oh... and I am of Scottish extraction so I am indeed..... A pale blue color.
lazs

[ 09-19-2001: Message edited by: lazs1 ]
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apar1 on September 19, 2001, 09:12:00 AM
Simple solution is too look at the stats, gents, that'll tell you who flies what, and their performance in those planes,   :D
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: -ammo- on September 19, 2001, 09:52:00 AM
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Originally posted by hazed-:
what is all this crap?

so what if their squad says JG or RAF and they decide to fly a NIK?

jesus the fact that im in an LW squad is because i prefer those planes.SOMETIMES ooooh what a shock! i prefer OTHER planes!!
isnt it a shocker! and i am a hipocrite because of that?

I fly what i like, I choose to fly 90% of the time LW stuff.You people need to think of something more important to spend your time on than all this crap.

LOL hazed, I am all for flying whatever you like, I do. But its the guys that gripe and complain in thread and even create anti N1K threads and are flying the things  ;) Not only are they vocal about the thing and complain that the FM is porked but they also fly all the "super birds" like the La7 and the F4U-C, I point to those guys  :) Its just plain funny, and hypocritical  :)

However I do not lump all of them together, just the ones that gripe and moan.

[ 09-19-2001: Message edited by: -ammo- ]
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 19, 2001, 10:48:00 AM
"Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against workers of iniquity. For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb. Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.

Psalm 37:1-3
"

So your sayin that the buffs will get be fixed in 1.08?
lazs
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: sling322 on September 19, 2001, 10:57:00 AM
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Originally posted by Urchin:
Yea sling, isn't it horrible to know that pilots that are better than you are go through streaks to?

So, I guess that means that you are better than me because you are a LuftWhiner?  Ouch...that really hurts.  I think I am gonna go slit my wrists now or something.   :rolleyes:
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 19, 2001, 11:01:00 AM
sling.... I believe that he is (correctly) pointing out that the LW unwarented arrogance and short sightedness is "simulated" perfectly in AH.
lazs
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Swager on September 19, 2001, 11:25:00 AM
I would say 75% of the time I fly a LW A/C.  there are times, for example, defending an airfield, I will fly the Zero.  I like the Spit, so I will fly that once in awhile.

I am a member of an on-line combat flight simulation German squadron, but until I see someone else's signature on the bottom of my credit card bill, I'll pretty much fly what I want.  Ya can't get any plainer than that.

I don't take this so-called 'pasttime' too seriously, I mean, for me, it is for entertainment purposes only.

So ya got to look at who does the gripin, the so-called "LW whiners" or the people that "freak out" because someone flown a plane that wasn't N-Sync with their squad nationality base?  Sounds to me like someone got their butt handed to then recently and needed to vent.

Lighten-up people, it's a simulation!

Can we all say It's-a-sim-u-la-tion?

There, I knew you could do it. Now go back to killin each other!   :)

Have a nice day!   :)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apache on September 19, 2001, 11:37:00 AM
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Sounds to me like someone got their butt handed to then recently and needed to vent.

Can't let this one by. Swager, you know me better than that. I really could care less what anyone flies. I just thought the following was kinda comical. I'll leave the name out cause I'm not lookin' for a fight.

I jump a 109 & wax him. I fly around some more, see another 109, take him out and it's the same guy. a few later, I'm nose down, right wing dipped about to roll into another con when I look thru the windscreen before I go, there's an N1k on an HO move, 300 yards away & firing. I evade but get an oil hit (tough little f6f), so I head home. As I'm leaving I watch this N1k get a kill. The 109 guy from an LW squad. Nothing more, nothing less. Just thought it was funny.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: 38isPorked on September 19, 2001, 11:45:00 AM
"Zygote, Tac, Grunherz... I forget the rest of the names, but I'm sure in some other N1K2 threads I could be refreshed rather quickly."

I have NEVER touched a n1k in the MA for MONTHS. I do complain a lot, and I have my damn good reasons (yes, 0mph with full control of a lightweight plane with a monster 2000hp engine.. NO TORQUE effect. mwahaha). Look up my stats and see the last time I flew a n1k. I even remember that sortie, upped a 50% fuel n1k from a field that was being bombed by 2 b17s, 2 b26's and a ju88 with 2 f4u's and a 190 above it. I shot down ALL the buffs and 1 hog before the 190 got me. Its ridiculous. Kindly point your brown finger somewhere else.

Also, bear in mind that squads are SQUADS. When they fly as a squad MANY squads fly their ride. I love my 38 and fly it almost exclusively. There are times I do want to try something out in a P-51 or a jug or a tiffie. Usually I am dissapointed and go back to my glass slipper.

-Tac
(not at home now)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Urchin on September 19, 2001, 11:47:00 AM
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Originally posted by sling322:


So, I guess that means that you are better than me because you are a LuftWhiner?  Ouch...that really hurts.  I think I am gonna go slit my wrists now or something.    :rolleyes:

Naw bud, I'm not saying I'm better than you because I'm a "Luftwhiner"- I'm just saying I'm better than you  :).  Oh, look- I even have "evidence", I wonder if HTC will listen to me and give me a badge saying "You are #4,897 to be better than Sling".

Tour 19- Overall

sling has 6 kills and has been killed 20 times.

urchin has 275 kills and has been killed 94 times.

Lets see if we flew any of the same planes here....  

Well, my record in the Dora wasn't REAL impressive, but at least it was positive that tour...  

sling has 3 kills and has been killed 4 times in the Fw 190D-9.

urchin has 77 kills and has been killed 32 times in the Fw 190D-9.

But wait.. thats a "Luftwhiner" plane.  That means I have an advantage over you.  Lets see here.. I bet I can find some N1K2 stats for both of us.  Ahh, there we go.

Tour 20 (so far)-
sling has 16 kills and has been killed 18 times in the N1K2.
(thats a pretty impressive record, by the way.  Practice real hard and you might even get to a 1/1 KD ratio.)
urchin has 35 kills and has been killed 9 times in the N1K2.


As an aside, this facetious post is directed only at Sling, because he is an idiot.  Lazs, while I don't respect many of your views, I DO respect your ability.  In my opinion, you've "earned" your right to talk toejam by being able to back it up, Sling just hasn't gotten there yet in my opinion.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Wotan on September 19, 2001, 12:01:00 PM
ammo post some names.

whos the niki whiners who go out and spend time getting most of there kills in them.

I fly the zeke but close to 95% of my kills are in lw planes. The majority of those as with my squad are done in 190s.

bradys5 is in my squad hes flies whatever he wants. Its his money. Hes our friend and because he chooses to fly a variety of planes we would never exclude him from our squad.

Urchin is the newest member of jv44. check the stats of those in my squad.

Why is it any concern of any you what folks fly. Or even if they "whine" no one makes you read it. theres lotsa handsomehunkes making posts in here. I just dont read umm. You chose to read something by some you already know what he will post. Then "whine" back how sick you are of "whiners".

lazs regardless of what small portion of you maybe scottish your still neither blue nor a knight. Your a pink rook.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Swager on September 19, 2001, 01:10:00 PM
Sorry Apache!!  It did read like it was toward the originator of the post.  I can insure you that it was not intended toward you.  We've flown with each other too many times, and I know better.

So I apoligize Apache!  Some like to degrade LW squadrons in general, regardless if they know what they are talking about or not.  Most of the time they don't.   :)

Some just like to brabble!
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: sling322 on September 19, 2001, 01:16:00 PM
Thats pretty impressive Urchin....I guess you must have mistaken me for someone who puts a great deal of stock and merit into "Stats" and "Rank".  

Sorry to disappoint you, but I play this game...thats right "G A M E"....for fun.  I like WWII aircraft.  I like flying with my squadmates.  I like being able to blow off steam by shooting down or being shot down by others in a game that involves WWII aircraft.

What I dont like are the people around here that take themselves way too seriously.  I mean, really, am I supposed to be impressed that you had 500 more kills than I did last tour in which I only flew 8 hours or so.  Sorry buddy....but I'm not.  There seem to be certain individuals who always pop up in certain topics and beat the same horses to death over and over and over and over.  You are one of them and therefore draw attention to yourself.  

Sure Pyro has said that there "might be" problems with the N1K2-J flight model but he has never said specifically what they are or what is going to be fixed.  I just think that until the time comes that it is fixed, people should just quit with all the squeaking.  I mean we all know that it might have problems....even though these problems never show up in any films.  :rolleyes: Do you really have to jump into every thread and keep harping on it over and over?  

Be careful...if you start putting too much stock into your "Rank" and "Score", you might start having problems fitting your virtual head into your virtual LW ride's cockpit.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apache on September 19, 2001, 01:29:00 PM
rgr Swager! Thanks my friend.  :)

<S>
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Urchin on September 19, 2001, 01:37:00 PM
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Be careful...if you start putting too much stock into your "Rank" and "Score", you might start having problems fitting your virtual head into your virtual LW ride's cockpit.

 

Nah, I have all my planes fitted with a specially made "big-head" version of the canopy.  I still have lots of room to grow into it, it'll prolly be another year or so before I have to design a new one.

Also, I noticed you didn't really respond to my answer to your original claim- which was "So you are better than me because you are a 'Luftwhiner'".  My answer clearly showed that I am not, I'm just a better pilot.

[ 09-19-2001: Message edited by: Urchin ]
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Wotan on September 19, 2001, 01:46:00 PM
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What I dont like are the people around here that take themselves way too seriously. I mean, really, am I supposed to be impressed that you had 500 more kills than I did last tour in which I only flew 8 hours or so. Sorry buddy....but I'm not. There seem to be certain individuals who always pop up in certain topics and beat the same horses to death over and over and over and over. You are one of them and therefore draw attention to yourself.
 

Hiya sling why do you read and reply in threads in which you know are like this?

There could be 1 million niki threads and ya dont have to read a 1 of umm.

Seems to me some folks have fun working themselves up just fer the hell of it.

What if someone posted a whine and no buddy read it ..........

 
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There seem to be certain individuals who always pop up in certain topics and beat the same horses to death over and over and over  

aint that the truth........... how many luftwhiners threads you been a part of?

heck ya its a game whine if want to who gives a fek?
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: sling322 on September 19, 2001, 02:13:00 PM
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Originally posted by Wotan:
Hiya sling why do you read and reply in threads in which you know are like this?


Well ya know...most of the time Wotan, those threads that you try to read aren't about "Niki's".  But you can almost bet that certain individuals will pop in and whine about them somewhere in the thread....its worse than the C-hog ever was, I think.  You need to send an invite to Tac to join your squad....then we will have all 3 of ya's together in one place.   ;)

As for your other point...how many times have you seen me hi-jack a thread for the sole purpose of throwing out a LuftWhiner whine?  I assure you it doesn't happen as often as "some people" like to do the same thing with N1K2 whines...if at all.

And as far as your buddy Urchin....if he wants to hang his hat on the fact that he is a better pilot than me, then more power to him.  As long as it makes him feel "special" I wont deprive him of the pleasure.   :D
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Wotan on September 19, 2001, 03:01:00 PM
i've seen threads on both sides turn wether they be lw or whatever. but some folks only ever reply to a thread inorder that they can say "im tired of you lwhiners blah blah blah......."

I dont think I've ever seen a sling reply/thread other then the type here.

You will say u never read an Urchin, Tac, Gruen, hazed (insert your token lw here) thread other then a whine wether thats true or not I dont care (i dont read most of um) but you seem (as well as others) to find your way to their posts and regurgitate the same crap.

again if you whine in the forest and nobody hears ya.........is it a whine?

I usaully look at the name of the guy posting or replieng and simply skip it.


<S>

ps You never heard me whine about a niki ever......... but i do hate spitfires the squirrelly bastards(my spit whine best ya gonna get)

buffs......? call it a whine if ya want but I will express how I feel about there impact on gameplay whenever there is a thread about buffs. but I doudt I will ever start one.

as for Urchin you seem to have called his skills into this thread dont blame me (or him) if he throws a comparison back at ya.
Just goto the DA and whoop him a few times.... :)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: sling322 on September 19, 2001, 04:29:00 PM
Well I didnt call his skills into question so much as I called attention to his hypocrisy.  I find it extremely peculiar that someone who spends so much time squeaking about N1K's and La-7's would just jump into one "when he hits a dry spell".  It strikes me more as the actions of a closet-Niki driver who is worried about what others would think about his plane selection rather than worrying about having "FUN" while playing this game.  

As for your suggestion about the DA....I have no desire for it.  I have nothing to prove to Urchin.  He is obviously the better pilot....just look at his rank.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 19, 2001, 04:36:00 PM
As usuall wotan.. you are wrong.  not only am i of Scottish decent but most bk's are southern boys and hence, except for the farmer tans, a shade of pale blue.   Allso, you will note that you will never see a bk sig that is bigger than most peoples posts..  And....even tho so many are southern boys.... you won't see us awarding ourselves rank.... not even the obligatory southern "colnel".  allso....

I think urchin is perfect for your squad... good replacement for sturm6 i would say...  have missed all the "i am great and here are my stats to prove it posts"  since ol sturmie left.   I mean... if you don't tell everyone how great u are how will they ever know right? And...

we have a couple of half decent sticks in the bk's but they are virtually unheard of...  that drex guy and hooli are showing some small bit of promise but of course their stats aren't near so good as you guys....  No disipline I suppose.   I keep telling them "quit having fun!  this isn't a game damnit!"  but do you think they will listen and pay attention to their stats?  Nooooo.   Still... I tell em.... "your not any good till your stats show it".  
lazs
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Dowding on September 19, 2001, 04:37:00 PM
Hey Sling, my sentiments exactly, pal.  ;)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Tac on September 19, 2001, 05:04:00 PM
I dont WHINE. I give...ummm.. constructive criticism with a tad of sarcasm.. yeah, thats it.  ;)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Toad on September 19, 2001, 05:23:00 PM
Well, one things for sure... Drex and Hooligan have never learned the "fly straight and level" escape maneuver.

Work with them on that, Laz... I'd really appreciate it.

At least Drex's "point to Toad" radar seems to be in the shop lately.   ;)

The one's I really respect? They're the ones that are so good they realize they don't need to remind everyone they meet every chance they get in every post they make.

To me, "good" has a lot of ingredients.   :D
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Wotan on September 19, 2001, 06:46:00 PM
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we have a couple of half decent sticks in the bk's but they are virtually unheard of... that drex guy and hooli are showing some small bit of promise but of course their stats aren't near so good as you guys.... No disipline I suppose. I keep telling them "quit having fun! this isn't a game damnit!" but do you think they will listen and pay attention to their stats? Nooooo. Still... I tell em.... "your not any good till your stats show it".
lazs

Who is this directed at?
when did i mention stats? or skill or any of that? am I the one telling you how to have fun or is that coming from you?

sturmie never left. and I dont care what urchin flies any more then i care what you fly or how you fly it.

you're the one finding it necessary to point out what people fly as if you had some impact on it.

As much as they may be whiners its you and sling types that spend as much time whining about them "i'm sick of lwhiner whines" as if theres a difference. all we need now is a seeker post calling us nazis..........

you see a post by a percieved "lwhiner" why read it and work yourself into a whine reply?

much like my sig u if dont like it dont read it cause aint a fediddlein thing you whine about that will change it.

You keep sayin its a game but your the one taking things far more serious then me.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: -ammo- on September 19, 2001, 06:59:00 PM
Wotan, lighten up. I could care less what people fly, its there money. If someone comes to this BBS and whines about a certain AC then is shown to fly it, then they have become a target of someones humor. I am having too much fun to get all heated over something as silly as you getting your feelings hurt :) I flew with urchin 1 on 1 in the DA one evening and enjoyed myself thoroughly. Hes pretty good too. I have no issues with any of your folks. Can I laugh at you LWeeners too? would you mind?

lazs, nope, I could care less if they fix the bombers. I dont fly them enough to. My signature relates to my way of handling the WTC attack
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 19, 2001, 09:14:00 PM
I dont fly niki much anymore, tho I did use it more in tours 9, 12, 15 and 16. You can check the numbers on that if you wish. Every other tour it has had few/insignificant or no kills at all.

The funny thing is nearly every time I flew it was during a vulch or desperate defense situation and almost never on offensive missions and i could still get a fairly high KD and a higher kills per sortie and per time than in "real" planes.

And YES I flew it because of its freakshow abilities AND have always asked for it to be changed!

I think im one of the worst and most vocal NIKI haters/complainers asking for it to be looked into and changed, my use of it has shown me that its very bizzare in the vertical and at stall, it can nicley outclimb P51s at 27k (but hitech says B17s can too???), it can do many strange E-retain and E-replenishing moves thus can very easily regain climbing speed with very high climb angle after a stall.

Its really bizzare, and I hope we get positive changes in the FM in v108.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: AKSWulfe on September 19, 2001, 09:18:00 PM
Grun, I did do the research on your kills and it coincides with what you stated here. That's why I replied to my ownself with the "well the half of kills was an exageration"..

You did notice what I said about the N1K2 and how I think it's vertical is suspect (read up, I think it was my first post in this thread), so in that point I agree with you.

I honestly have to say though, recently I haven't seen you complaining about the N1K2 as feverishly. That's a good thing, I guess it's because you know 1.08 may hold some fixes you've been asking for.

Since you have recently laid off the BBS in terms of "whining" about the N1K2, I must give you a big S!

See you in the skies, and sorry I called you out in this thread- but Wotan asked for names and I can't look like a stammering fool ALL of the time.   :)
-SW
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 19, 2001, 09:28:00 PM
Yep SW my complaing about niki wasnt just meant to anger people or cause a fuss, it was to put light on the Niki FM issue. Once I saw that HTC was looking into it and they saw a possible FM problem I stopped because thats all I ever really wanthed to accomplish regarding the Niki.

Another reson I dont complain about them anymore is how easy they are to kill IF (ONLY IF) you gain more experience to work around their bizzare abilities and not go vertical against them from anything but very superior speed dive. They can also be outurned by 109G6s and 190A5s unded the right circumstances and with frendlies above you or in a 2v1.


Thanks for the kind words and the <S>, Im aware that my style on the BBS is not very good and not polite many times but im struggling to improve and be more constructive. Its all too easy and yell and make noise sittoing behind a keyboard and not seeing the people you make uncomfortable.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: mrfish on September 19, 2001, 09:58:00 PM
grunherz is a recovering whiner....give him some room people! remember your higher power grun.

 :D
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 20, 2001, 08:26:00 AM
toad... I don't believe we have ever fought in the arena?  I have no idea of how you fly.

I think we have been through at least 2 sims together and for the life of me can't remember ever having fought you.   No big deal... just weemed odd to me.   What times do you fly?

hooli and drex do fly straight and level for short periods...  they do it to kill the 6 planes i have just drug out of the ack.   I am the designated dragger for the BK's... for some reason people seem to be attracted to me in the arena.."DD" is as close to "rank" as we get in the bk's.  
lazs

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: lazs1 ]
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Glasses on September 20, 2001, 08:47:00 AM
Ahh Urchin it's nice to see you bloom from a naive Luftwaffle into a full fledged Luftwhiner. You have made me so proud,so proud indeed. You're even almost  Gruenherz   ;)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2001, 08:54:00 AM
Laz, yeah, don't know if I ever have run into you in all this time.

As to how I fly, the answer is "poorly".

My work sked varies week to week but if I am home I usually fly between 2000-0000 Central.

I'm not kidding you, there was a period a few months back that everybody I ran into was named Drex. I know, because the buffer was filled with "you have been killed by Drex".  :)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Nifty on September 20, 2001, 09:24:00 AM
I can't believe I read this whole thread...
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Wotan on September 20, 2001, 10:22:00 AM
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Wotan, lighten up. I could care less what people fly, its there money. If someone comes to this BBS and whines about a certain AC then is shown to fly it, then they have become a target of someones humor. I am having too much fun to get all heated over something as silly as you getting your feelings hurt  

ummmmmmm wtf are you talking about?
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: hazed- on September 20, 2001, 12:12:00 PM
jesus what a pile of horse manure.

some questioned the NIK performance whilst others called them whiners.......
how strange that HTC found some problems.
some question the flying of the P47d11 whilst others called them whiners........
how strange that HTC discover its modeled incorrectly in weight.
some questioned the armour of the vehicles and others called them whiners.......
 HTC changes it.(it still has problems.)
Some questioned the damage model for engines and tails of CERTAIN  :D aircraft while others called them whiners........
Now HTC is looking into it.
Some questioned the need for more strategy whilst others called them whiners.......
HTC intoduce trains,roads,bridges etc and integrate them into game structure for 1.08.
some question the B17s performance at high alt whilst others called them whiners.......
wonder what HTC will tell us.

anyone see a pattern?

If we cut out those that called them whiners over and over and HTC just let the community know about what they are checking or changing (like the 300lb too light p47d11) the questions on the games performance inconsistancies are greatly reduced.
Its the same people who accuse people of alterior motives for their posted questions.The same people who constantly use the crap like 'luftwhiner' etc.Its just a shame they cant think of new tactics.Name calling,accusing others of taking things too seriously whilst in the same sentance offending them knowing they have to answer, generally being antagonistic in their replies.
kind of reminds me of the playground in infants school.I'll no longer converse with the idiots but unfortunately every now and then they get me annoyed and i cant resist.
wotan forget what they are saying mate, its clearly just written to anger you.

let em say what they like im beginning to realise im not alone in thinking most are idiots and i dont feel the need to answer their insults anymore.
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apar1 on September 20, 2001, 12:35:00 PM
Have not posted on Luftwhiner posts ever before (I think,   ;) ). Why don't ya all save this name calling for the AH conference, and tell eachother face to face what you think of eachother. That'll be fun, lol,   :D
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2001, 12:37:00 PM
Say Hazed, what do you call those guys that continue.... over and over and over and over and over... to "beat a dead horse"

...AFTER HTC says "we'll look into it"?
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Kweassa on September 21, 2001, 09:42:00 AM
I call them persistent.

 "Look into" doesn't mean "will change" ya know  :)
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: lazs1 on September 21, 2001, 09:51:00 AM
apar.. guys that have met me will tell you that I speak allmost exactly the same in person "face to face" as I do on this board.   I guess it's all in how ya say it.  

I will say... I have never met a flight simmer that I didn't enjoy talking/argueing with and I've met quite a few.   With bomber and LW guys I go in with the attitude that "just cause they are cowardly studmuffins (not that there's anything wrong with that) doesn't make em bad guys".
lazs
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Eaglecz on September 21, 2001, 10:06:00 AM
N1K= frag hunter  :D

moose i know that N1K never mind you  :D
but i didnt see u in else plane
  :p

btw Fester fly what ever you want , but be sure that N1K FM will be a bit difrent in 1.08 .... if 1.08 will be ever released   :cool:
Title: The Japanese LW?
Post by: Apar1 on September 21, 2001, 08:00:00 PM
Well save it to the opertunities you have to tell it to them face-to-face than. It's getting boring to use the forum for it.

[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Apar1 ]