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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mudshark on April 03, 2002, 12:39:52 AM
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9-11 No ordinance needed
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Originally posted by Broes
9-11 No ordinance needed
Wow...thats a little tasteless. Not funny at all.
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Originally posted by sling322
Wow...thats a little tasteless. Not funny at all.
I guess you dont see this whole topic as a big time tasteless...
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Target: Hiroshima Nagasaki
Dead/Missing: 70000-80000 35000-40000
Wounded: 70000 40000
Population Density: 35000 per sq mile 65000 per sq mile
Total Casualties: 140000-150000 75000-80000
Area Destroyed: 4.7 sq mile 1.8 sq mile
Attacking Platform: 1 B-29 1 B-29
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Sling, 9-11 was about 5000 casualties. Sorry to say but the 9-11 attacks are a picknick compared to Hiroshima and Nakasaki.
If you think my remark is tasteless, your right, it downright is... but th remark of Engola Gay .salvo 1 is a hundredfold more tasteless.
Unless you think Japanese casualties are less worse then American casualties...
I was not trying to hurt anyone's feelings and i apologize if i did but I was trying to make point.
Broesy
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Target: Hiroshima Nagasaki
Dead/Missing: 70000-80000 35000-40000
Wounded: 70000 40000
Population Density: 35000 per sq mile 65000 per sq mile
Total Casualties: 140000-150000 75000-80000
Area Destroyed: 4.7 sq mile 1.8 sq mile
Attacking Platform: 1 B-29 1 B-29
And all so the stupid morons could test their new toy...
Sure, one small reason was to save US soldiers lives but main reason was testing purpose :(
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And for some obscure reason this thread was not posted in the O club...
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GO TIBBETS GO!
Relax, its just a game.
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Sure, one small reason was to save US soldiers lives but main reason was testing purpose :(
- O-Club Topic FOR SURE now....
- I thought it was an AH game reference, a not-so-subtle hint for the B-29 and A-bomb to come to Aces High. We see that stuff all the time.
- "One small reason.... "Yeah, a million estimated casualties ON OUR SIDE ALONE + untold Japanese invasion casualties was a small reason
- See ya in the O-Club.. we can talk about FUN things there. Like cheerfully selling really high quality bearings to the most oppressive war machine/dictatorship the world has ever seen, your Holiness. :p
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Intresting to see how the europeans react to the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki.
intresting that they miss the fact these acts brought about the prompt end of a war that would have easily cost the japanese several million, possibly a hundred million more lives..
these same europeans that so quickly and roundly condem our actions also seem to have missed what we did after that war... we rebuilt your freakin countries, fed your citizens, established a means for your defense and held the line against the soviets while you got your economies going again.
you buncha nasty thankless salamanders, think you'd a got a deal like that from stalin, or tojo? you owe your national existence to the presence and use of atomic weapons in 1945. wake up, and get a freakin clue.
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Originally posted by Broes
9-11 No ordinance needed
.... shudup idiot.
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hey Hang there is not such thing like an European opinion :)
several yes
contradictory opinions surely :D
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O club yes, btw Hangtime, I live in Sweden and we were neutral, you didn't have anything to do with saving us nor building up our economy, we did that by our selves after the war and got rich by selling lots of iron ore and such both during and after the war :)
And no, I don't agree that bombing
80 000 civilians is a good or better way to end a war.
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Lets not lose sight of the situation here fellas.
The Japanese declared war on Asia and the US well before any bomb was dropped on their heads. They slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians and raped 20,000 Chinese women in Nanjing before they even attacked the US. They ruthlessly attacked Pearl Harbor with a sneak attack in the hopes that the blow might cripple the US Navy and keep them out of the war while they conquered more of the Pacific.
If you feel sorry for the innocents killed in the atomic bomb attacks, think about the many Chinese who lost their lives because of the original Japanese atrocities.
The US didnt just pick an arbitrary city to 'test' their weapon. They were at war.
-Ding
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Your 'Neutrality' is a convienient fiction.. a legend for your own minds. Had the Nazis succeeded, or later, the Soviets overun europe.. i.e. if we wern't there with NATO to hold them at bay with OUR atomic weapons, how long do you think your precious 'neutrality' would have lasted?
What you got was a gift.. you did not earn it, yet you claim a higher morality for not participating directly. Pretty weak play Wilbus.
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Lock 'er down or move 'er to the O-Club please.
I enjoy the sparring as much as anyone, but this could easily get to 100+ posts and given the twist... it's clearly in the wrong forum.
Thanks!
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these same europeans that so quickly and roundly condem our actions also seem to have missed what we did after that war... we rebuilt your freakin countries, fed your citizens, established a means for your defense and held the line against the soviets while you got your economies going again.
Sorry to say that so clear but these sentence diqualified urself.
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Don your armor, gird up your loins and take it to the O-Club.
Please.
Thank you. :)
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Gee whizz,
I posted it, thinking that, in relation to the game, it had some humour to it. I never intended to upset or offend anyone. If I did I apologize.
Sorry, Mudshark
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Intresting to see how the europeans react to the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki.
intresting that they miss the fact these acts brought about the prompt end of a war that would have easily cost the japanese several million, possibly a hundred million more lives..
these same europeans that so quickly and roundly condem our actions also seem to have missed what we did after that war... we rebuilt your freakin countries, fed your citizens, established a means for your defense and held the line against the soviets while you got your economies going again.
you buncha nasty thankless salamanders, think you'd a got a deal like that from stalin, or tojo? you owe your national existence to the presence and use of atomic weapons in 1945. wake up, and get a freakin clue.
Hangtime, I do condemm the bombing of Hiroshima and Nakasaki as much as I condemm war as a whole. I know the reason of dropping the bomb on these 2 cities and maybe if I had been in the position, I would have made the same decision to drop them.
Still, I regret the loss of innocent lives in conflicts caused by 'visionary' leaders, be it in Hiroshima, Dresden, London or Stalingrad or New York. Whatever the cause, war is a terrible thing.
Broes
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Originally posted by Dingy
Lets not lose sight of the situation here fellas.
The Japanese declared war on Asia and the US well before any bomb was dropped on their heads. They slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians and raped 20,000 Chinese women in Nanjing before they even attacked the US. They ruthlessly attacked Pearl Harbor with a sneak attack in the hopes that the blow might cripple the US Navy and keep them out of the war while they conquered more of the Pacific.
If you feel sorry for the innocents killed in the atomic bomb attacks, think about the many Chinese who lost their lives because of the original Japanese atrocities.
The US didnt just pick an arbitrary city to 'test' their weapon. They were at war.
-Ding
Dingy, I will not even try to justify what SOME the Japanese SOLDIERS in China did but I am sure you can explain to the women and children in Hiroshima and Nakasaki they deserved those bombs.
Broesy
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Originally posted by Wilbus
O club yes, btw Hangtime, I live in Sweden and we were neutral, you didn't have anything to do with saving us nor building up our economy, we did that by our selves after the war and got rich by selling lots of iron ore and such both during and after the war :)
Oh. c'mon wilbus, check O'club ;)
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poo poo wah wah wah, war is war people die, it was done 40+ years ago. GET OVER IT
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Originally posted by Broes
Dingy, I will not even try to justify what SOME the Japanese SOLDIERS in China did but I am sure you can explain to the women and children in Hiroshima and Nakasaki they deserved those bombs.
Broesy
'SOME' Japanese soldiers killed 200,000-300,000 civilians and raped another 20,000 innocent females. War is not pretty, nor is it clean. While a soldiers actions during wartime shouldnt represent the rest of the countries civilians, we're foolish to believe that acts of aggression be constrained only to the combatants. Its only with new technology (which isnt even always 100% accurate) that you can even come close to surgical attack precision, sparing the life of civilians.
I think you would have a whole lot less sympathy for those japanese civilians if you have relatives slaughtered by the japanese in China but you dont so thats why your able to condemn the attac from your sanctity in Holland :/
-Ding
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I think you would have a whole lot less sympathy for those japanese civilians if you have relatives slaughtered by the japanese in China but you dont so thats why your able to condemn the attac from your sanctity in Holland :/
Sorry to say it but I don't judge a whole country by the acts of it's army.
Our so called 'sanctity'? Rotterdam, Holland's biggest city, got almost completely flattened by bombers (yes BEFORE even Londen or Dresden). You know, that was at the beginning of the war, WAY before America even CONSIDERED of joining.
Broesy
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And who came and kicked the germans out, then restored your country to yah, yah ungrateful twit! ;)
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The Bagelry on Mesa Dr. really should offer their tomato basil bagel as an everyday item as opposed to a monthly 'bagel-of-the-day'
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"We should withdraw to our borders, arm ourselves to the teeth, and tell the rest of the world to go to hell."
You see where settling the score on an unprovoked attack gets us. Just like ding said they killed hundreds of thousands of Chinese, not a word said. We kill a few thousand to end a war and we are the devil. It's a no win situation guys.
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The chorizo burrito from Chano's on Figeroa near USC is absolutely one of the best burritos to be found.
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new place just opened here. called burrito express. best mex food i've had since leaving the SW 25 years ago. decent mexican food in NY is very hard to find. :(
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It seems that as situation in world is getting hotter and hotter, so are the topics in this BBS. This thread should be moved to O'club.
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Originally posted by Yeager
GO TIBBETS GO!
Did you guys know that Paul Tibbets commanded the first B-17 combat mission in the ETO?
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Hangtime
new place just opened here. called burrito express. best mex food i've had since leaving the SW 25 years ago. decent mexican food in NY is very hard to find. :(
Its all over here in the DC area. Theres a burrito joint up the street called Baja Fresh which has one of the best burritos I ever had. Leave off the sour cream and it could be considered health food. Add the salsa rojo and it cleans you out from the inside out :)
-Ding
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The Best Barbeque Restaruant in the world is in KC.. Jack's Stack.
Excellent Mexican food at several places on Southwest Boulevard.
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Originally posted by Dingy
Its all over here in the DC area. Theres a burrito joint up the street called Baja Fresh which has one of the best burritos I ever had. Leave off the sour cream and it could be considered health food. Add the salsa rojo and it cleans you out from the inside out :)
-Ding
the Va side must be better than the MD side, it's all crap over here.
-Sikboy
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:( what has the world come to :( :( :(
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War aint pretty and all Nation participating in one will have blood on their hands.
If humans would do better use of their brain, the world might be better.
And now all in the so called "free world" enjoy your wealth you build uppon the backs of the poor.
I hope they never find out they actually don't need us, cause than its goodbye USA&Europe.
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Originally posted by Naudet
And now all in the so called "free world" enjoy your wealth you build uppon the backs of the poor.
I hope they never find out they actually don't need us, cause than its goodbye USA&Europe.
Oooooooookkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyy. ..... :rolleyes:
In the immortal words of Monty Python,
"And now, for something COMPLETELY different."
-Ding
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Isn't the weather good for this time of year!?
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My cats breath smells like cat food.
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Originally posted by Broes
Sorry to say it but I don't judge a whole country by the acts of it's army.
Our so called 'sanctity'? Rotterdam, Holland's biggest city, got almost completely flattened by bombers (yes BEFORE even Londen or Dresden). You know, that was at the beginning of the war, WAY before America even CONSIDERED of joining.
Broesy
Hate to burst your bubble of ignorance, but we didn't choose to enter the war, that choice was made for us on December 7th, 1941. Enjoy your freedom, courtesy of the U.S.A. :)
Ack-Ack