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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on April 03, 2002, 12:38:31 PM
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http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_2.html
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Good to see the CIA back in action :)
There is a sentence I never expected to see again.
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Do you think they did it? Would be cool if they did :D
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Either us or Israel
or a joint Op <- my guess
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If that really was CIA:
Would it be cool if Syrians would blow up Boeing's factories in U.S ?
Just asking :)
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Originally posted by Staga
If that really was CIA:
Would it be cool if Syrians would blow up Boeing's factories in U.S ?
Just asking :)
If we were using them to crash into thier homes or buildings or generaly using them as weapons against them or their allies then yes. But as we're not no, it's just a smart bellybutton comment from some stupid american hater.......
:D
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I think Raytheon would be a better example.
Just sayin
-Sikboy
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Propably Israel did use U.S made hardware when it launched air-strikes to Syria and Lebanon.
What if Libya would blow up General Dynamics? U.S were using F-111 planes when it attacked Tripoli and Benghazi?
Still cool eh? I don't think so :)
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edited out because I used the "F" word way too much.
suffice it to say staga
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Originally posted by Staga
Propably Israel did use U.S made hardware when it launched air-strikes to Syria and Lebanon.
What if Libya would blow up General Dynamics? U.S were using F-111 planes when it attacked Tripoli and Benghazi?
Still cool eh? I don't think so :)
While it is certainly less "cool" to be on the receiving end of military retribution (which this may or may not have been, either by the US, or Israel, or Bohemia or whoever) it certainly doesn't detract from the overall view that if this was an act of military retribution, it warrents the tag of "cool" I suppose.
We celebrate our victories, we mourn our losses. Such is the nature of conflict. I for one feel little pity when I WMD facility is destroyed. Considering that Syria is one of the few countries in the world who is not a signatory of the CWC, it makes this even more "cool" in my estimation.
-Sikboy
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Yikes!...Udie
Drink a beer bud, yer gonna pop an artery or something.:eek:
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What if destroying this factory ultimately prevented a nuke/chem/bio tipped Scud from falling on .... say.... Finland?
Or even some richly deserving bastiges like the US?
Or maybe even more richly deserving bastiges like Israel?
Still cool?
:D
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Yikes!...Udie
Drink a beer bud, yer gonna pop an artery or something.:eek:
Nah all the veins are where they should be :) I'm just growing tired of the anti-americans out there. I can only hope that one day he will learn first hand what it is to be a victim of terrorism. Then maybe he'd understand how it's cool to see a terrorist factory of a country (syria) get one of their WMD factories blown up before the weapons could be used on US or our allies.
I will say it's a good thing we have this forum to discuss these things. I'd be in prison for murder if this was done face to face :D or be dead hehe.
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If one day the world woke up and America was as evil as staga and his ilk would have you believe. Staga, remember we could, if we chose to, end the world..... We could/would have just dropped a few 50 MT nukes on bagdad 12 years ago and been done with the problem. We didn't because we respect life more than any other country that has existed on this planet.
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Er back to the content of the thread...
One factory is meant to produce solid-fuel missiles and the
other is for liquid-fuel missiles. The solid-fuel missile is being developed with the
help of Iran.
The Homs explosion is said to be the latest in a series of accidents that have
taken place during Syria's missile and nonconventional weapons programs. In
1991, the Syrian Health Ministry closed down five pharmaceuticals plants,
including one in Homs, during what Western intelligence agencies determined
were tests of chemical weapons.
Granted, Russia and the US escalated the production of WMD back during the cold war, their purpose was MAD if the other decided to play chicken. My only thoughts with countries like Syria and Iran may be not one of MAD but one of an offensive role.
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Udie actually I like Yanks; You are very interesting people :)
btw is there any chance that Colin Powell would be your next president? Seems like he is a intelligent man and imo much better choice than what you have now :)
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I'm just growing tired of the anti-americans out there. I can only hope that one day he will learn first hand what it is to be a victim of terrorism.
And I for one am growing tired of your constant bleating about terrorism, like no-one on the planet ever had experience of it before 9-11. You're like some new born Christian, unable to even talk about the weather without bringing your 'new' insight into the discussion. It's boring. EVERYONE was appalled by the WTC attack - but you overstate the case beyond reason.
To wish that someone be a victim of terrorism is absurd and proves you're little grasp of reality. I have family who lived under the cloud of terrorism for years; my girlfriend was from Inniskillin (NI) and has some very interesting stories to tell.
So who are you to go wishing acts of terrorism on random people you don't know? Idiot.
On the subject of the thread:
This was a munitions factory in a not particularly developed country. You can bet your arse there's no Health and Safety body regulating what they do. It probably WAS an accident, and not neccessarily the opening paragraph in some trashy Tom Clancy novel.
I also think the CIA hasn't been sitting on its hands all these years.
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Originally posted by Staga
Udie actually I like Yanks; You are very interesting people :)
btw is there any chance that Colin Powell would be your next president? Seems like he is a intelligent man and imo much better choice than what you have now :)
Doubtfull that Powell could make a run in 2004, since modern political parties will always nominate an incumbent. If the GOP take some political hit between now and next year, I could see Cheney dropping out for "Health Reasons" and Powell being brought onto the ticket as the "wise statesmen" VP. Right now it's way too early to project though IMHO.
-Sikboy
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that's the last straw!
whips out glove and slaps Dowding upside his ugly head :)
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Hmm, the hijacking continues..:mad:
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btw is there any chance that Colin Powell would be your next president? Seems like he is a intelligent man and imo much better choice than what you have now
In all honesty, the only reason Colin Powell is not our first black President was because he chose not to pursue it. Who were our contenders? Bush, Gore, McCain? Powell would have squashed them all (and I would have voted for him as well).
There's always 2004, I suppose. Given the likely announcement of Hillary's bid for office, Gore's promise to run again (though I doubt he can get the nomination) and a few other Dem possibilities (Kerry?) it still looks as though the Repubs stand a better than average shot whoever they put up. And, assuming the Enron thing does not turn up a smoking gun, there would be no reason Bush couldn't run again at this point, though we know how these things turn on a dime.
For the benefit of Weazel, my order of preference in the last election was Powell, McCain, Bush. I have been pleasantly surprised by his performance so far, and given a choice between him and Hillary... well, you know how I would vote. ;) Bob Kerry might pull me off the Repub ticket, but I want to watch him a bit more.
How's this for a hijack?
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Sorry Eagler. It seems I inadvertantly attacked an American institution! :D
Ripsnort. I didn't hijack anything - I'll repeat what I said about the explosion if it makes you feel better. ;)
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Actually, I didn't know there was all that much left to discuss after the intitial comments...
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given a choice between him and Hillary... well, you know how I would vote
They're both lower than whale toejam. :p
My bet is the Mossad did it.
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Originally posted by weazel
given a choice between him and Hillary... well, you know how I would vote
They're both lower than whale toejam. :p
My bet is the Mossad did it.
LOL I can just see weazel's 2004 ballot.
Presidential Candidate - Republican George W. Bush ( )
Presidential Candidate - Democrat Hillary R. Clinton ( )
Presidential Candidate (write in) - WHALE toejam (X)
:D
Did I nail it weaz?
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:D
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JJ for president!
MWAHAHAHAH. Political Terrorism . THere, I coined a new one! :D :D :D
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We'd be circumventen his presidenten.
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heheh, JJJ for president. Someone has to protect you from spidey.:eek:
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I'm with Udie.. I'm sick of the '9-11; you deserved it" innuendo dribbiling outta the nether orifices of our european comrades.
I used to think that Truman and Marshall were hero's for restoring europe and asia to europeans and asians after the war.. now I'm not so sure.. we shoulda had McDonalds in Moscow and GM in Tokyo by 1962 instead.
As for the Middle East.. we had a good chance when Carter was president. He shoulda turned the 52 american hostages into 52 american martyrs and tehran into a glass crater. The fediddlein middle east would be very quiet now.
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:D
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I think the Israelis did it. And they get a big fat
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I can only hope that one day he will learn first hand what it is to be a victim of terrorism
Yer kidding no ?
Concerning the explosion ,working with explosive as never been really safe no need of the CIA to make a plant explode.
You just need an idiot or bad luck or a combinaison of both.
DOHHHHHHH
I do agree with an englishman ... wtf :) this planet is going mad :)
dowding I fully agree with you
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Europe ruleZ, USA sucks!
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...Boroda scratches the back of his head and wonders: why didn't Russians start bombing everyone in sight because we became "victims of terrorism" in 1999?...
Couldn't it be fine to start with Albania, then return Serbian refugees to Kosovo and cheer every accident on any factory proucing Tomahawk missiles - a weapon of international terrorism? Damn, we suffered from planned terrorist attack, and Shamil Basayev was seen in Albanian terrorist camp!
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Originally posted by Boroda
...Boroda scratches the back of his head and wonders: why didn't Russians start bombing everyone in sight because we became "victims of terrorism" in 1999?...
For the record, you guys did reintroduce hostilities to Chechnya at the time. While there are those in the US who dissagreed with the Russian response (In fact some policy people I spoke with at the time, not to mention Academics believed that it was not Islamic sepratists, but rather the KGB who blew up the apartments in Moscow :rolleyes: ) I was never one of them. The fact is, Russia responded as the United States has. They targeted those responsible for the actions, and began a campaign against them. The major difference I can see is scale. Larger attack on the WTC=larger response. The situations are not that different in my eyes. Hopefully the reports of Human Rights abuses at the hands of US soldiers in Afganistan will be significantly reduced compared to what has come out of Chechnya.
-Sikboy
[edit] and yes, I do think that those who dispise the US, for whatever reason, would cheer an explosion at a Raytheon plant.
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Tell me Sikboy, did the US forces in Afghanistan use artillery against Kabul?
Chechnya is NOT Afghanistan and neither is the response of the 'wronged' state.
Sure there are Islamic terrorists in both countries responisble for particular atrocities, but that's about all they have in common.
But the US response was reasonable, measured and arguably justified.
The Russian response was indescriminate and reminiscent of the heavy handedness of the Soviet Union.
Terrorism should be attacked by all means. But to take innocent lives in the process should be avoided at all costs, not simply disregarded as a neccessary evil.
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Yeah, European nations NEVER commit acts of sabotage or terrorism right?
roadkill
And one difference between the ragheads and the USA. Military targets are usually at the BOTTOM of the ragheads list.
Originally posted by Maniac
Europe ruleZ, USA sucks!
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Originally posted by Dowding
Tell me Sikboy, did the US forces in Afghanistan use artillery against Kabul?
No, and we didn't level it from the air either. This is an interesting thing that happens when you have so many people talking about so many things from so many angles... I agree with you Dowding. But I didn't mention these things in my post because I was trying to win over Boroda by pointing out the similarities in how Russia reacted to the Moscow appartment bombings, and how the US reacted to the WTC and Pentagon Attacks. My intention was not served by pointing out the differences between the campaigns. In my opinion, that would just open up another argument, and I would have rather stayed with one at a time.
-Sikboy
PS: if anyone is interested in the conflict in Chechnya, with a Historical background, I wrote a paper on it last year. It's available on the webpage in my profile.
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I'll check that out Sikboy. :)