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Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Gunthr on April 04, 2002, 08:24:39 AM
Hawking's Warning (http://www.guardian.co.uk/genes/article/0,2763,545684,00.html)

Interesting idea. You can see how Hawking might have a special insight on this. His body is basically just a life-support system for his brain, an electrical organ that is aware of itself. He uses electric powered locomotion. He has electrically produced speech, and he must have a close affinity to computers.
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Sikboy on April 04, 2002, 08:32:59 AM
Sheesh didn't this guy ever watch Star Trek? I mean, Genetic engineering sounds great and all, but we'll just end up making Khan, and he'll plung us into WWIII (And STII btw). But... If we let Computers take over the world, we can create a Mechanical Utopia which could support the likes of V-Ger and bring a glorius union between god and machine... or something like that. I don't know I wasn't paying enough attention. It's early still and I haven't gotten enough coffee.


-Sikboy
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Nifty on April 04, 2002, 11:19:48 AM
I dunno about watching, but he was on a next generation episode once.  :)  They said when he saw the set for the warp core room he said "I'm working on that."   :D
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Tuomio on April 04, 2002, 11:21:10 AM
If you have cybernetic implant to override all your senses with computer generated ones, why in the hell would anybody plug himself out from that?

I mean, thats perfect Virtual Reality, everything would be possible in there. There would be no way for person to make difference between real and unreal, without artificial  means (ie. Microsoft startup screen covering your vision when you wake up in your VR).

Why explore stars, if we can bring the stars to us?

Edit: The point is, that i have no noubt of computers "taking over the world". Thats when the computers BECOME our world.
Oops, i think im there already ;)
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: miko2d on April 04, 2002, 11:30:33 AM
Genes define our brain structure during the embryonic development process, so whatever you do with them, it is not possible to affect currently living people - only the future babies.

 It is possible right now to affect genes of the babies in order to improve their intelligence and other traits - by marrying (or at least getting sperm/eggs) from smart healthy people.
 Not many people are interested in it though.

 miko
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Animal on April 04, 2002, 11:32:04 AM
Argghhh.. I cant control it

When I read what he said I can hear his computer generated voice in my mind
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: CyranoAH on April 04, 2002, 12:11:49 PM
I am Hawking of Borg.

Resistance is Futile.

You will be assimilated.

Care to bring me some more coffee?

:D:D:D:D
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Daniel
Title: Re: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: milnko on April 04, 2002, 12:26:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunthr
Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking


Too late. Any of ya ever fought Drex? :)
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: unix on April 04, 2002, 12:50:01 PM
Good thaught but as long as the robots are running windows I am not going to worry.
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: -dead- on April 04, 2002, 12:52:22 PM
How do we know that's Hawking saying that and not his computer trying to trick us?
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Tac on April 04, 2002, 01:29:50 PM
"Good thaught but as long as the robots are running windows I am not going to worry."


LMAO!! :D :D


"HUMANS! WE WILL NOW TAKE OVER THE WO.."

*flicker*
 
"General Protection Fault in Module 003ff232"
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Tac on April 04, 2002, 01:39:14 PM
*G*
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: spitfiremkv on April 04, 2002, 09:47:46 PM
technology advances is one thing, finding someone to program a computer to be as intelligent as a human being is something else. doing that would take probably as much as it took for our DNA to be programmed :)
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: blur on April 05, 2002, 07:16:58 AM
Thanks for the article. I needed a good laugh.

Hawking said, 'computers double their performance every month'. Humans, in contrast, are developing much more slowly, and so must change their DNA make-up or be left behind. 'The danger is real,' he said, 'that this [computer] intelligence will develop and take over the world.'

I personally have never come across a computer any smarter than a common household toaster.

I think someone better check his battery pack. ;)
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Gunthr on April 05, 2002, 08:20:07 AM
" Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before and it has always been due to human error. " - HAL  :)
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: Voss on April 05, 2002, 10:52:17 PM
Hawking's premise is flawed in that Humans double a computers performance every month, not computers in and of themselves. Computers have no 'self' and won't, until we design them that way. He's looking to the future.

I wish he were right. I'd never have to upgrade again.

Unfortunately, the first human clone is already on the way.
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: -tronski- on April 06, 2002, 12:53:45 AM
(http://www.somethingawful.com/features/history/01-lowtax-robocop.jpg)
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: osage on April 06, 2002, 03:17:08 AM
Hawking Builds Robotic Exoskeleton (http://www.theonion.com/onion3123/hawkingexo.html)
Title: Alter our DNA or robots will take over, warns Hawking
Post by: fdiron on April 06, 2002, 03:44:42 AM
One day computers will be able to design themselves.  Then they will eat all the humans because computers love the taste of human meat.  Oh the humanity!