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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Udie on April 04, 2002, 02:32:23 PM
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WARNING Picutre of death WARNING
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/palestinianwarcrimes.html
the silence is deafening......
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And still many world governments request Israelis to "restrain" themselves as they become terror victims - targets of snipers and Arab terror suicide bombers who attack pizza restaurants, shopping centers, discos and coffee shops!
First.. that's what i'da like to have done to the CIA mole that spilled to the ruski's.. and got 12 agents in place killed in the soviet union. The guy was a traitor.. if yah got the facts, why bother with a trial?
Second.. seen what happens to a Narc when he's caught by the homies in south central LA?
Chit.. it's a dangerous world.. over there, if you diddly up, yer dead. As that guy found out. It's obvious the value of human life on both sides has gone to hell.. but that's war. He's dead; so are a whole buncha other folks... and lots more since the incident yer touting happened.. that was two whole weeks (in that neighborhood, thats a millinium) ago.
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What is the point of even posting that crap Udie??? Sheeesh, we all know there's barbaric acts committed by both sides every friggin day, it's a war, for Chrissakes. All this does is make a pro-Palestiian post pictures of unarmed dead Palestinans killed by Israelis.
Next time you squeak about reperations for African Americans I'll post pictures of lynched African Americans- see my point??
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That's an excellent, well-rounded and objective news organ you've found there Udie.
If you are into unbiased and well rounded reporting, why don't you check out the PLO's news web-site - I hear the editor's up for a Pulitzer this year. Along with the fella responsible for Israel News Agency's guff.
In answer to your posting of the photo - I think the phrase 'shit happens' is very apt.
PS. The world isn't a nice place, BTW. And I don't believe the UN is particularly sympathetic towards the indecency exemplified by your photo.
PPS. Want me to dig out the photo of the body of that Palestinian tortured and then murdered by Israeli settlers last year? It's just as shocking, but you won't find it mentioned within the pages of the illustrious Israelnewsagency.com It got very little coverage in ANY news media.
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Point is Elfenwolf to show that the Palestinians are barbaric. Hangtime brings up some valid points about what happens to narcs too. Mainly the point is to show that there is a side to this saga that gets no attention. Just about the whole world (UN) is coming down on Isreal for defending itself against murderous thugs who want nothing less than Isreal gone. I wanted to show that side exactly who they are supporting.
Look at the scene around the dead guy. Notice that big propoganda poster of Herr Arafat? Geez where have we seen that kinds of stuff before? The fact that Isreal is the only democracy in that region should be enough for our support I would think. Arafat is a dictator and a terrorist and has done nothing good for his people except bring them more death and destruction.
How many attacks have there been in the past 2 days? Maybe Isreal is on to the right tactic?
Hangtime,
I don't think they had 2 witnesses or did he confess? But I would agree with your punishment for the mole, after the trial ofcourse :)
I guess I'd have to agree with your assesment of the situation in Isreal too :( at least there's been no bombings in the last couple of days...
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Originally posted by Dowding
That's an excellent, well-rounded and objective news organ you've found there Udie.
LOL! got me there. I leached it from another UBB and didn't even notice who's site it is.
If you are into unbiased and well rounded reporting, why don't you check out the PLO's news web-site - I hear the editor's up for a Pulitzer this year. Along with the fella responsible for Israel News Agency's guff.
Actually I was there just tuesday reading a statement by some whacko. I guess the editor can put his pulitzer next to Arafat's Nobel Peace Prize (LOL!)
In answer to your posting of the photo - I think the phrase 'shit happens' is very apt.
Geez that's not very enlightened of you :rolleyes: I thought you were some sort of elite Euro enlightened perfect person who new better than us racist southeners, go figure...
PS. The world isn't a nice place, BTW. And I don't believe the UN is particularly sympathetic towards the indecency exemplified by your photo.
I think you should replace the word "sympathetic" with "interested". It doesn't fit their agenda.
PPS. Want me to dig out the photo of the body of that Palestinian tortured and then murdered by Israeli settlers last year? It's just as shocking, but you won't find it mentioned within the pages of the illustrious Israelnewsagency.com It got very little coverage in ANY news media.
Sure why not? I didn't hear about that one. You sure they didn't stop a terrorst? ;)
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Dowding:
If it says Palestinians are barbaric on the ISRAEL NEWS AGENCY website, it must be true.
I need hardly point out that a man would be a fool and a communist to think differently. :D
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I agree, less civilized it seems
As I pointed out before, the interviews always seem to have better educated Israeli rep which come across more intelligent and civilized than their counter point Palestine reps.
Or is that just the "JEW" controlled media, picking out the idiots from the Palestine side to represent their side of the conflict .. :rolleyes:
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Are the Palestinians really Palestinians?
I posted this on another thread but this one seems appropriate.
something interesting...
quote:
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"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. . . . Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it."
-- Local Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937
"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not"
-- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian to
Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946
"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."
-- Delegate of Saudi Arabia to the
United Nations Security Council, 1956,
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Now I'm not so naive to not see this as Isreali propoganda, but even propoganda (the best propoganda) sometimes has a large element of truth. Basically what this site was saying is that there was no "Palistinian national movement" prior to the 1967 war. In other words, the Palestinians didn't care about having a homeland when they were occupied by Jordan.
So is the Palistinian Nation a concoction of Arafat to try to grab power from a vacuum?
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Provocative photos aside, I have developed a nagging doubt.
As I posted in another thread, I belive that if the Arab countrys were not sincere in there offer to, all, recognize Israel, and normalize relations. Then they made a huge tactical error. The Israelis are not a super power. And they are completely surrounded by enemies. For all the talk, and bluster, the truth is, they are in a tight spot. If they were to take up the offer made by the Arab countrys. And the Arabs defaulted. There could be no doubt in any civilized country as to who the aggressors were. The Arabs would find themselves surrounded by most of the rest of the world.
However, my doubt is this. I truly belive there was no offer, no trade, nothing we could have done to make the al-kieda terrorist back off. They want us dead. Period. What if, in the end, that is what Israel is up against. Nothing they could do to make the Arabs happy, but die. I looked upon Vietnam as a toejam detail, to use an old Army expression. This middle east thing could turn into the mother-of-all toejam details
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Originally posted by easymo
...This middle east thing could turn into the mother-of-all toejam details
turn into?
I saw the V.P. tonight. He was right here in Fayetteville.
I ain't worried. I think I'll go do a little fishing.
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The VP is at Bragg?
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easymo.. do you seriously think that US troops would be sent to syria or the west bank or lebanon? keerist i hope not, because if they were, you would be 100% correct.. that would in fact be 'the mother of all toejam details'.
i'll send every fediddlein toejamhead in the house and the senate a nastygram if they even make noises like it's a possibility. and send the vp a case of godivas; but nothin fer bush; doubt he can read unless theres color pictures and text balloons.
our troops to the west bank? that would be the worst possible move.. tossin our folks into the toejamhouse after turds ain't good for morale, among other things. cripes, i hope there's enuff general officers left in our fediddlein army that remember vietnam.
i'd rather we just blew the toejam outta iraq.. lets insist that israel spend some of that 980 billion we've sent 'em to settle the hash in their neighborhood... maybe get arafat a new kaftan necktie.
best deal would be for them to martyr the old bald headed toothless diddly, install somebody that'll negotiate and give the damn palestinians a state. The the isrealis can tell syria and egypt to go fek themselves and let 'em applaud while we wash saddams tanks with napalm hot wax. and if iran or the saudi's even look funny at us, just blockade their oil ports, send all the oil customers to to our new found oil wells in iraq, and send the excess oil buisness to the russians.
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I think if the Arabs would offer the Jews an absolute, by God, line in the sand, even if it was based on 1967. The Jews would go for it. A secure border, that was unimpeachable. Would look good to them right now.
In contrast. Following the line of my earlyer post. If the Arabs defaulted, yes. We would have troops headed that way. But not by themselves. Like Korea, it would be a UN action. And based, again, on my post above. We would be getting a lot of help.
If we try the Iraq move that you describe. The others would drop us like a dirty sock.
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BTW Udie. I didn't mean to hijack your thread. Its just that moral outrage sets off my roadkill detector. Many of the same people that are outraged that teenagers are strapping bombs to them selves. Had zero to say about the gooks doing the same thing with 4 year olds. They did this on a regular basis. And I don't need any Photos. I saw it for my self.
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Remember boys and girls: its ok to kill Palestinians because they are not real people. They have no feelings like the suffering Israeli armed settlers.
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oh, i don't doubt it easymo.. but hell, we've already got the dirty sock rep, might as well actually get something for it. ;)
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:)
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Originally posted by easymo
The VP is at Bragg?
No, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
It was very interesting. The Secret Service searched the hotel with bomb-sniffing dogs before everything got started. The hotel shares a floor with a radio station. The radio station has two sides (AM/FM) and the FM rock-and-roll D.J.'s were pitching their backpacks out windows , and tossing jackets out on their balconies (obviously suspecting drug-sniffing dogs). No one got hurt bailing out a window or anything. The AM side was doing sports and hillariously covering the story on-location. No wacko's anywhere in sight.
Cheney was campaigning in support of fellow Republicans.
When he came and left there was a strange commotion as cell phones and land phones alike went momentarily dead. Heh, I like that part.
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If you look at military spending, as a number equating
to power, then the numbers speak for themselves.
The caveat is who you will be opposing? Saddam Hussein
soon found out that dug in armor and troops quickly
became field fodder for the greater technical opponent.
Isreal 8.7 billion 9.4 % GDP (gross domestic product)
Egypt 4.4 billion 4.1%
Syria 921 million 5.9%
Jordan 608.9 million 7.8%
Lebanon 343 million 4.8%
Numbers from CIA World Fact Book 2001
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html
Events.
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Originally posted by easymo
BTW Udie. I didn't mean to hijack your thread. Its just that moral outrage sets off my roadkill detector. Many of the same people that are outraged that teenagers are strapping bombs to them selves. Had zero to say about the gooks doing the same thing with 4 year olds. They did this on a regular basis. And I don't need any Photos. I saw it for my self.
No foul! I'd rather see and partake in this type of discussion than in a venom spitting contest :)
I had family in Vietnam so I know some of the stories, thanks for the service btw.....
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hey, udie... how'd the OTHER fishing trip go?
;)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
hey, udie... how'd the OTHER fishing trip go?
;)
I like to fish ;)
We did alot of trolling on Easter Sunday even caught some :)
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Geez that's not very enlightened of you I thought you were some sort of elite Euro enlightened perfect person who new better than us racist southeners, go figure...
Thanks for the complement, fella. Really made my day. But there's no need to air your insecurities in public. You'll only make me cry.
What's wrong with you anyway? Are you some kind of bleeding heart conservative? You ought to go easy with that kind of crazy talk, you've got an image to maintain... ;)
My point was that the picture you posted is repeated in hundreds of countries all over the world every week, if not every day. But I don't see you posting those pictures?
You were probably joking with your last statement. But given that the Israelis have taken part in outrageous acts, are you saying that mob rule and barbarity is acceptable provided it's performed by a group of people you happen to support?
My opinion? They are all consumed by hate to the point insanity. The leadership of both sides is so concerned with appearing hard to fend off internal political opponents, that they've lost sight of any reason.
I don't think I'm particularly biased - but when I was about 10 y/o I watched Israeli soldiers hold down young boys and break their arms with stones, on the news. Even at that age I decided that those weren't the actions of men.
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Originally posted by Dowding
My point was that the picture you posted is repeated in hundreds of countries all over the world every week, if not every day. But I don't see you posting those pictures?
In all the time of this conflict that was the first sort of news of that sort that I've ever seen. I've seen lots of Isreali tanks and soldiers and Palestinian Gunmen/Rockmen, but never a Palestinian killed by the palestinian dictator's (Arafat's) supporters.
You were probably joking with your last statement. But given that the Israelis have taken part in outrageous acts, are you saying that mob rule and barbarity is acceptable provided it's performed by a group of people you happen to support?
See there's the rub I guess. The Isreali's are NOT acting in a barbaric manner, they are and have been acting in self defence. Some actions have been reactive and others have been proactive. The palestinians are the barbarians. And no I'm not talking about all of them, but the barbarians seem to be in complete control over there.
My opinion? They are all consumed by hate to the point insanity. The leadership of both sides is so concerned with appearing hard to fend off internal political opponents, that they've lost sight of any reason.
Wow we agree :) Exept I would add that I've seen the Isreali's on more than one occasion willing to negotiate a peace only to be answered by suicide attacks on their civilians. I've never seen Arafat willing to negotiate unless he feared for his personal safety or his roll as dictator. Same with last week. Only when Isreali tanks were OTW did he say he would agree to a peace plan, and that was NOT in arabic on palestinian media, it was in English for western media to make him look like a victom. I don't understand how this tactic still works. Saddam uses the same tactic and has for years.
I don't think I'm particularly biased - but when I was about 10 y/o I watched Israeli soldiers hold down young boys and break their arms with stones, on the news. Even at that age I decided that those weren't the actions of men.
Hmm perspective :) When I was about 12 I watched palestinian terrorist kill over 200 marines in Beruit. Then I watched the palestinians support saddam in the gulf war. Then I saw them dancing in the streets on 9/11. These people are no friends of mine or my country, infact they are enemies as far as I'm concerned. I wish Bush would start treating them this way.
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Hmm perspective When I was about 12 I watched palestinian terrorist kill over 200 marines in Beruit.
That wasn't the Palestinians.
The US Marine barracks attack was carried out by Hezbollah.
Hezbollah are a Lebanese Shi'ite group. They were formed in late 82 or 83, after the Israeli invasion of the Lebanon, and after the Palestinians had been expelled by the Israelis.
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Second.. seen what happens to a Narc when he's caught by the homies in south central LA?
True,true
The big difference is:those in Compton aren`t trying to get their hands on nukes,but the supporters of these thugs on that picture are about to reallize their wet dream of owning the A-bomb.
Will the world wake up and deal with these morons before it`s too late,or we have to pay the price?
And what their first target will be is a rather easy guess...
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i'd rather we just blew the toejam outta iraq.. lets insist that israel spend some of that 980 billion we've sent 'em to settle the hash in their neighborhood... maybe get arafat a new kaftan necktie.
best deal would be for them to martyr the old bald headed toothless diddly, install somebody that'll negotiate and give the damn palestinians a state. The the isrealis can tell syria and egypt to go fek themselves and let 'em applaud while we wash saddams tanks with napalm hot wax. and if iran or the saudi's even look funny at us, just blockade their oil ports, send all the oil customers to to our new found oil wells in iraq, and send the excess oil buisness to the russians.
Hangtime for president :D