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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: DA98 on April 05, 2002, 03:51:11 PM
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50183
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/superfly/boston3.jpg)
One of my favourite planes of WWII :) :) :) :) :)
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sooo....2 weeks till 1.10? :)
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Have to admit....if I were going to fly a bomber (which I don't plan to do), this would be the one I'd want. Maybe with the nose gun pack. And parafrags.
- Oldman
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Wow, that plane is sweet!
No true tail gunner though...is there anything firing in the low 6 position? I can't see because the wing is in the way.
Kuben
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Nice :) Early bomber for AH (Oct 1941) first flown by No 85 Squadron.
Performance
Maximum speed: 320MPH
Ceiling: 24,500ft
Range: 1240 miles climb rate of 2000ft per min
Dimensions: Span 18.69m, Length 14.48m, Height 5.36m
Armament: Four .303 forward firing machine guns two .303 trainable machine guns in the dorsal position and one .303 in ventral position
Bombload: 2000lb
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Originally posted by Kuben
Wow, that plane is sweet!
No true tail gunner though...is there anything firing in the low 6 position? I can't see because the wing is in the way.
Kuben
I think this plane was primarily used in low level raids and attacks since it had the option for a heavy gun setup in the nose. It was relatively defenseless due to a lack of gun positions. Although it was a quick plane it was not a speed demon.
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Great to see a new bomber in AH, especially an RAF one and an early war (by AH standards anyway) Still hoping to maybe see the Mosquito bomber variant make it into the next release.
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She looks like a real turd and an easy kill.
Greatly needed for the CT though!
eskimo
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Nice plane, wtg :)
(Waiting for t34 and sherman screenshots) :)
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Cool, another buff for me to shoot down in my P-... err ah B-26! :D
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Mk III (Intruder) could be interesting...
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Now, I must say that this was completely unexpected.
How widespread was the usage of this aircraft?
I know it saw service in Europe, but what about the Med. or Pac. theatres?
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Specification of Douglas DB-7B Boston Mk. III:
Powerplant:
Two Wright R-2600-A5B Double Cyclone fourteen-cylinder, twin-row air cooled radial engines with two-speed supercharger. Rated at 1600 hp for takeoff and at 1000 feet and 1400 hp at 10,000 feet.
Performance:
Maximum speed 311 mph at sea level, 338 mph at 12,500 feet. Cruising speed 273 mph. Initial climb rate 2000 feet per minute. Service ceiling 27,600 feet. Range with 2000-lb bombload 525 miles. Range with 1000-lb bombload 745 miles.
Weights:
15,051 pounds empty, 20,320 pounds normal maximum takeoff, 23,500 pounds overload. Normal crew complement was four -- pilot, bombardier, dorsal gunner, ventral gunner. Fuel capacity 329 Imp gall in four self-sealing tanks in the inner wing panels, one on each side of the engine nacelles.
Dimensions:
Wingspan 61 feet 4 inches, length 47 feet 6 inches, height 17 feet 7 inches, wing area 465 square feet.
Armament:
Four fixed 0.303-inch Browning machine guns in nose with 500 rpg. Two 0.303-inch Browning machine guns in flexible dorsal position. One Vickers K 0.303-inch machine gun in flexible ventral position. Maximum bombload of 2000 pounds in split bomb bay comprising four 500-lb bombs. Normal bombload was 1000 pounds comprising two 500-lb or four 250-lb bombs.
The Boston Mk. III began to arrive in Britain in the spring of 1941. The Boston Mk. III was the first of the DB-7/A-20 series actually to operate with the RAF in its intended role of light bomber. They were supplied to Nos. 88, 107, 226, and 342 Squadrons in the United Kingdom and with Nos. 13, 14, 18, 55, and 114 Squadrons serving in the Middle East and later in Italy. They replaced the Blenheims previously operated by these units. The first raid against the enemy in occupied France took place on February 12, 1942. They took part in attacks on the German warships Scharnhorst, Prinz Eugen, and Gneisenau when they took part in the famous channel dash during Operation Cerberus.
However, many Boston Mk. III aircraft were modified to Turbinlite or intruder configurations. The Boston Mk. III (Intruder) aircraft retained their transparent noses but were painted matte black, equipped with flame-damping exhausts, and fitted with a belly gun pack housing four 20-mm Hispano cannon which supplemented the standard Boston Mk. III armament. These operated from mid-1942 onwards with Nos. 418 (RCAF) and 605 Squadrons. Serials of the DB-7Bs converted to Intruder configuration include W8256, W8262, W8264, W8266, W8268, W8278, W8281, W8283, W8284, W8290, W8292, Z2155, and Z2165. Boston Mk. III aircraft fitted with Turbinlites included W8257, W8265, W8275, W8276, and W8300.
I sure hope we get the Intruder varient...
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Nice addition! In 107 Sqn RAF markings! :)
No doubt this will mean we'll also get the hard nosed Havoc! Now that'll be fun!!!!!! Don't want no Turbinlite tho (night-fighter).
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That's a great choice for scenarios. There are so many variants of this plane too. It's similar to Ju 88 series as a "Swiss Army Knife" plane.
Karnak, Boston/Havoc series were used heavily in all theaters. They were fighting from 1940 until the end of the war. USAAF, VVS, RAF were the major operators. It was also used by Armee de l'Air, Free French, Holland, RCAF, and RAAF.
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher4/a20.html
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Excellent plane to introduce..I think I asked for it a year ago.
Wide spread service and a great contemporary of the JU88.
We need SAAF P40e to escort it though...he he
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EXCELENT! I will make good use of this in the CT!
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Excellent, I will use it for quiet afternoon target practice. >:)
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You now have a bomber that is representative of American, French, British, Australian, and Russian Air Forces. It was outpaced by later war craft, but in the 1939 through early 1943 it should be able to fulfill its role.
It's fast, nimble, and has some (4x.50) offensive firepower. A wave of these dropping in should give a field a quick once over. Sure, there are better planes now to do that, but in a scenario... ;)
El Almain (sp)?
BoF?
Tunisia?
Eastern Front?
Pacific?
This plane was a must-have. If we are lucky, we'll see P-40s, Ki-44s, Ki-43s, and FM2s in the next version. Wouldn't that be cool?
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Clarification, the British version used .303s, but the Americans used .50s in later versions.
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(http://www.riveting-images.com/A-20_Havoc__Boston__Prints_/1st_misn.jpg)
(http://www.riveting-images.com/A-20_Havoc__Boston__Prints_/stoksA20.jpg)
:D
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2000 lbs?I think I will stick with My Hog.I trust the gunner more :D
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This plane was a must-have. If we are lucky, we'll see P-40s, Ki-44s, Ki-43s, and FM2s in the next version. Wouldn't that be cool?
I'd also like to see a Mosquito bomber variant.
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New GV's too?
(http://www.somethingawful.com/features/classicads/lothianofeyif-squeakincamaro.jpg)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
New GV's too?
(http://www.somethingawful.com/features/classicads/lothianofeyif-squeakincamaro.jpg)
Hey, cool Hang! :D That the Camaro with the 105mm telescopic howitzer under the bonnet and twin 20mm hispano cupola in the rear? ;)
Regards
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NEXX
418 (City of Edmonton) Squadron - RCAF ~ The Hornets
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Sigh... Boston, aye, a name that really springs to mind...?! OK, I know, I know, not all important planes became well-known generally, but if we were to have another RAF bomber I'd rather have had a Wellington (for preference) or a Blenheim. On the other hand, if the Boston was that widely used by different airforces, then that's a big plus in its favour.
The MAIN thing, though... it's a new plane, and a bomber at that! :-) Now, when can us Luftwaffles have bit of choice in what buffs to fly, He111H anyone? Do217E (c'mon,that's late war!) Is it a bit too outre to ask for a Do17Z? :-}
Seriously, I'd like to see the SM79 then the He111 followed by the Pe2 then Catalina and FW200. As for fighters: Rata, Hawk75 and Fiat CR42. All early war. All doubtless sneered at by those who cant bear not to be flying the fastest, deadliest whatever because of poor piloting skills (hey, in uber fighters even I can look passably good as a fighter pilot, and trust me, I'm definitely not a great fighter pilot!)
So... Whilst it isnt the plane I'dve chosen to have in the game, aye, it'll be good to have the Boston to fly! :-} Cant get over how ofte AH comes out with new stuff for us to play with... very, VERY nice!
Esme
PS: any chance of a T34 (for preference) or Sherman GV?
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gee this has got the be the only ww2 plane that i have never seen anyone ask for. that is a amazing thing .
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The A20 Havoc a nice addition. Brits called them Bostons.
I have read articles that during the D-Day Invasion, that the Havocs flew so low over the hedgerows that their props cut swaths on top of the hedgerows. Fairly fast and nimble as I recall.
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Gee, Lord Dolf Vader, maybe you should have been a member for the last 2 years or so. ;) I lobbied for it at least that long ago.
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Esme, you might note the Boston was very important early in the war, and the Brits replaced their Blenheims with them. It had more impact in the Pacific and in the African theatres (and fewer losses), but it was important throughout the war.
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I've been asking for an a20 havoc for like 2 yrs.
been asking for a b24 longer though :D