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Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: CDR Akira on April 06, 2002, 11:56:34 AM
Ahem,okay I'm new to this so give me so slak here

First,there are ten count them ten aircraft

-F9F Bearcat

-Hawker Seafury

-PBY Catalina

-P-61 Blackwidow

-PV-2 Harpoon

-B-29 Superfortress (w/Nuclear bomb)

-B-25/H Mitchell

-P-40/F Kittyhawk

-Me-263 Komet

thats about it;)
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Revvin on April 06, 2002, 12:01:32 PM
Aces High needs more early war planes and finally they are being added I hope they can focus on filling out the early war planeset as the late war has had plenty of attention.
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: CDR Akira on April 06, 2002, 12:13:52 PM
Yeah guess your right 'bout some of them but not all of them
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Wilbus on April 06, 2002, 12:24:24 PM
Me 163 ;) Yes, we need it :)
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: CDR Akira on April 06, 2002, 01:36:20 PM
I knew someone would say that, thanks Wilbus
Title: Planeset
Post by: Seagoon on April 06, 2002, 02:26:06 PM
Just some personal opinions:

The Bearcat and Seafury are both VERY late war 1945 planes, we might as well start considering the Vampire or the Shooting Star if we are going to add them. Also, they would add to the top heavy super-perk plane catagory. It does however point up the need for more CV aircraft, but personally I think the SBD, Val, Kate, or the Helldiver are more needed - not more fighters. The fact we have only 1 Torpedo/Bomber on the CVs probably needs to be attended to more than more Perky fighters.

The Komet would be a fun novelty item to fly and might fill a hole in quick base defense against high-alt bombers. Since they actually engaged in combat, they would be historically more viable too. But the fact that more exploded or crashed than inflicted kills would be difficult to model. I think adding the 88 Flak to the field guns would be a better fix.

The P40 should be added, as well as the Catalina and B25. My guess is that we'll see them eventually.

As for the B29 with a Nuke, I wouldn't hold your breath.

Historically, the greater need is for the most produced Bomber of the war to be modelled - the B24 but I fear a B17 with half the bombload would be a much flown item.

The Blackwidow is probably going to have to wait until "nightime" is really integrated. At present, people regard night as a nuisance. Once that changes then Bombers and Nightfighters will really come into their own.

Just some thoughts.

Seagoon
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: CDR Akira on April 06, 2002, 02:36:18 PM
Thanks but,

I ASKED FOR A LITTLE SLAK!

in the begining line.
Title: Sorry Akira
Post by: Seagoon on April 06, 2002, 03:01:29 PM
Thought I was cutting slack. None of your suggestions were silly, just wanted to point out which ones were more viable IMHO than others.

No offense intended.

- Seagoon
Title: Re: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: NUTTZ on April 06, 2002, 03:30:08 PM
I think the Japanese planeset is VERY lacking, I noticed 9 of the 10 that you posted were allied steel. As we are now I don't think we have an IJN plane that can carry a torp, correct me if i'm wrong. The addition of the Me-110 series was very nice, FINALLY a plane i can fly, now lets see the Ki-84:)

IMO the next Allied plane should be the P-40, the Axis should be the stuka, and the IJN the Ki-84 (maybe even the Val) But i think those should be available WAY before  more late war allied rides.
I'm hoping this new British Medium buff acts like a A-26, moreso than the B-26. Althou your planeset is not bad, and many think the early war planes will not be flown in the MA, I'm thinking the overall picture the CT and senerios, and TOD for these early war sets.

But, the final decision is HiTechs
So bare with us we've seen these "what planes AH NEEDS" post for almost 3 years.

NUTTZ

 
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Originally posted by CDR Akira
Ahem,okay I'm new to this so give me so slak here

First,there are ten count them ten aircraft

-F9F Bearcat

-Hawker Seafury

-PBY Catalina

-P-61 Blackwidow

-PV-2 Harpoon

-B-29 Superfortress (w/Nuclear bomb)

-B-25/H Mitchell

-P-40/F Kittyhawk

-Me-263 Komet

thats about it;)
Title: IJAAF Torp Plane
Post by: Seagoon on April 06, 2002, 03:43:50 PM
Nuttz,

New KI67 carries a torpedo. We do need the Val and Kate though.

- Seagoon
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Kieran on April 06, 2002, 04:00:45 PM
The A-26 is like an A-20 on steroids.
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: eskimo2 on April 06, 2002, 04:01:05 PM
We have no dedicated dive bombers.

The Japanese are still lacking in bombers, esp. navy bombers.

What I think we most desperately need is:

Early A6M
Kate
Val

F4F
SBD

Stuka



eskimo
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Hamish on April 06, 2002, 04:29:58 PM
as a buff driver on occasion, if i had a choice between b-24 and b-17, i'd fly b-24 almost every time :D
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Wilbus on April 06, 2002, 05:49:50 PM
Sorry CDR, I had too ;)
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: JoeCrip on April 06, 2002, 06:01:36 PM
I'd say we need,

Me163
190 d-12
190 a-9
Ki43
b29
and some type of IJN CV Bomber

:)
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: ra on April 06, 2002, 06:57:47 PM
The Bearcat is the F8F, the F9F looks like this:

(http://www.naval-air.org/PlanePictures/F9F-2-Flight_small.jpg)
Title: 190a6
Post by: devious on April 06, 2002, 07:02:56 PM
The FW 190 A6, an A5 with 4xMG151/20.
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Glasses on April 06, 2002, 11:27:52 PM
Yeah Yeah and while you're at it add the 190D12 Ta152C ,fix the top speed for the H1 at alt and...

"Yeah d00dz th3 nuk3 w0uld be 733t" :rolleyes:
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Puck on April 06, 2002, 11:49:39 PM
HiTech flew a P51 once, maybe he's like one of these:
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Puck on April 06, 2002, 11:54:02 PM
How 'bout this one:
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Durr on April 07, 2002, 01:14:14 AM
I am very happy with the BoB planeset we just got in the last release.  That almost filled one of two groups of planes that I really wanted to see in the game.  The only planes missing that I had wanted to see in the BOB set are the Ju-87, He111, and Do-17.   The other group of planes that I want to see is a early Pacific set, including the F-4f Wildcat, Kate, Val, SBD, and Brewster Buffalo.  This would make that new Midway map rock.  I guess we would need the TBD for a Midway scenario although the TBD would get murdered in the MA just like it did in real life at Midway.  Those are CT and scenario wishes though.  Realistically, given the fact that only a limited number of planes can be released at one time and given the need to balance CT/scenario wishlist with MA usefulness, this is my top 20 wishlist in order:

1. P-40
2. Ki-84 Frank
3. Bomber version of Mosquito
4. Grace (IJN late war torpedo and dive bomber)
5. Yak-3
6. B-24
7. A-26
8. SBD
9. Ju-87
10. Jill
11. SB2C Helldiver
12. PBY
13. B-25
14. Gloster Gladiator
15. Me-163
16. G-55
17. B-29
18. Nick
19. P-61
20. Ju-52

Other vehicles on my wishlist:
Jeeps
Gliders
T-34 tank
Panther tank
Sherman tank
Tiger tank
Infantry
Cargo ships
Submarines
I would like to see the airplanes first though.  This is first and foremost a flight sim, although I love the other aspects of the game as well.  I know everybody is tired of seeing these wishlists but they are fun to make, even though I know that many of the planes I want to see may never get simulated or not for a long time at least.  In fact my list changes slightly at any given moment.   If you look back you can probably find other lists that I have made that had completely different planes on them.  :)
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: tack on April 07, 2002, 03:36:34 AM
You are paddles which do not forget the Regia Aeronautica?

Bombers
1.SM79
2.P108

Fighters
1.G55
2.G50
3.MC200
4.Re2005
5.CR42

I think that I make it want you to be able to load 202/205 with a bomb early.


tack
360a Squadriglia
155‹Gruppo
51‹Stormo Caccia Terrestre
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: AKcurly on April 07, 2002, 06:16:15 AM
I don't see how HTC can consider adding additional LW/USA/Brit planes before addressing the Japanese planes.  We have: 4 Japanese planes - 3 fighters, 1 bomber. :(

curly
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Dr Zhivago on April 07, 2002, 07:02:54 AM
How about this late war plane ;) .  Many of the these planes were lost in accidents, the leading cause being running out of fuel because of the plane's short endurance... :p

He 162A-2

max speed 905km/h at 5950m (562mph at 19500ft)
                  890km/h at sea level (553mph)
service ceiling 12040m (39,500ft)
initial climb 1405m/min (4615 ft/min)
range 975km (605miles)  
Armament: two 20mm MG151/20 mounted in the wing roots
 (Early) Two 30 mm Rheinmetall MK 108 cannon with 50 rounds per gun.
 (Late) Two 20 mm Mauser MG 151/20 cannons with 120 rounds per gun
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Wilbus on April 07, 2002, 07:34:29 AM
Yup, would be cool, specially with the special boost system.
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: CDR Akira on April 07, 2002, 01:04:04 PM
JoeCrip,the Me 263 is the same thing as the 163 thats why they call it the Komet 2.

and Puck thats a P-82 not 51.
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 07, 2002, 03:41:52 PM
Fighters:
F4F-4
FM-2
F8F (60 Perks)
Bf-109G14 (10 Perks)
Bf-109K4 (20 Perks)
Fw-190A3
Ki-43
Ki-44
Ki-83
Ki-100 (50 Perks)
A6M2
SeaFury (80 Perks)
LaGG-3
MiG-3
MiG-5
MiG-7
Yak-3
Yak-5

Bombers:
B-29 (80 perks)
B-24
B-25
B-17D
He-111
Fw-200 (5 perks)
Do-117
Ju-87D
Ju-87G
Val
Kate
Helldiver
Betty
Tu-2
Il2 (late war)
Ju-52 (goon alt.)
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: paintmaw on April 07, 2002, 03:59:22 PM
Damn whiners " I WANT THESE AC  "
I bet you guys pester your parents to death :)
Title: NEW
Post by: Fowler on April 07, 2002, 11:24:57 PM
Im new, and to be honest when i first logged on the first plane i went to take for a ride was the P40
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: -tronski- on April 08, 2002, 05:35:56 AM
yes...

P-40E/N
Val
Kate
SBD-5
B-24
F4F/Martlett
Beaufighter Mk21
Ju87B
SM79
P-39/400
MiG-1/3
A-20/A-26

maybe..

Me 163
Helldiver
G-55
He-111H/P
B-29
Halifax III
P-61 Blackwidow
B-29
Mosquito BIV
B-25
Wellington
Gloster Meteor
Ju 88G/Ju188

no...

Sea Fury
F8F Bearcat

why?

PV-2
PBY Catalina


uhuh...

Fatman/Little Boy

 Tronsky
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: hardtail on April 08, 2002, 12:12:04 PM
When are we all going to realise that our endless threads of "AH needs this aircraft..." have absolutely no effect whatsoever on the aircraft that HiTech releases next.  So keep on making wish lists, but at the end of the day, HTC is gonna do what HTC is gonna do.
Title: P-40/F better than P-40E/N
Post by: CDR Akira on April 08, 2002, 03:14:52 PM
Tronski the P-40/F Kittyhawk is way better than your P-40E/N

because the Kittyhawk as.....a...........MERLIN V12 and six 50 cal. guns. :rolleyes:
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: -tronski- on April 09, 2002, 08:41:37 AM
1.  P-40E Kittyhawk 1A, P-40N Kittyhawk IV
2. Merlin engined P-40F was marginally faster than a P-40E, but slower than a P-40N. Only Climb rate was substantially improved over the P-40E.
3. P-40E had 6x.50 cal, only the first 400 of 5,215 P-40N's had 4x50 cal. (P-40N-1), P-40N-5 had 6 x.50 cal as did every other P-40N produced after . The Packard merlin P-40L was reduced to 4x.50 cal
4. RAAF/RNZAF flew P-40E/K/N/M's which is bloody good enough reason for me!!!

 Tronsky
Title: Aircraft for AH,Please Hitech look at these planes
Post by: CDR Akira on April 09, 2002, 02:38:06 PM
Kay.