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Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 06, 2002, 04:05:58 PM
Konnichiwa all. ;)

As you know, HTC has released a lot of derived models of the aircraft (example: F4U, Fw190).
There is a suggestion, I want HTC to release the following Japanese aircrafts in AH 1.10.

Imperial Japanese Navy Air Force:
1) A6M3 Model 22 (ZEKE 22)
2) A6M5c Model 52 (ZEKE 52)
3) N1K1-J (George 11)
4) N1K1 (Rex 11)

Imperial Japanese Army Air Force:
1) Ki-61-I-b
    590km/h at 4800m
    580km/h at 8000m
    5'30" to 5000m
    10'48" to 8000m
    12.7mm*4
    100 - 250kgs*2 bombs
2) Ki-61-II
    610km/h at 6000m
    544km/h at 10000m
    6'30" to 5000m
    12.7mm*2 20mm*2
    250kg*2 bombs
3) Ki-100-I-b
    580km/h at 6000m
    6'00" to 5000m
    12.7mm*2 20mm*2
    250kg*2 bombs

Of course, I always hope that completely new Japanese aircrafts (Ki-43, Ki-44, Ki-84, J2M, etc) would be released.
But I think that these aircrafts which listed here, are easier to release than perfect new ones.

-Mitsu


P.S
Don't you enjoy Pacific Air War? :)
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: brady on April 06, 2002, 06:32:53 PM
YES I do :) good idea Mitsu it would help us CT stafers as well.
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: brady on April 06, 2002, 06:35:43 PM
Hey Mitsu do you know where I can get good interior pics of the Grace?
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 06, 2002, 11:58:25 PM
Pyro gonna release A-20 (yeah i know) in v1.10.
It's useful for Pacific Theater too.

I hope Pyro will release one or two of these aircrafts in new ver. :)

-Mitsu

P.S
brady, sorry I don't have any books about the Grace.
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mathman on April 07, 2002, 12:04:10 AM
I don't know if you guys have heard about it, but Monogram released a book of Japanese aircraft interiors.  I am not sure if the Grace has a pic in it, but leafing through it, I saw quite a few different planes in there.

Check it out here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0914144618/qid=1018159448/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_7_1/103-4816885-0571014) at Amazon.  Hope this helps.


 Doing a serach on http://www.greatmodels.com nabbed a few more details than what Amazon provides.  This is the information
that great models provides for it:

Quote
Robert Mikesh. The new and definitive work on Japanese a/c interiors. Dozens of drawings, including cutaways, 906 full color and B&W photos, 304 pgs, 9"x12."


-math
Title: 68Sentai(New Guinea) ki-61,plz:)
Post by: shinsuke sekijima on April 07, 2002, 11:47:20 AM
I want "68Sentai" New Guinea-Camo Paturn Ki61:)

12.7mmx4 or wing mounted mauser 20mm ver

ki61... Best Beautiful Plane in WW2, I think.

(if not release ki-61's New ver , I  finish Play AH...
 because, my Dream is making Squadron, real
"68th FighterGroup")
its use only ki61:D

sekiji
343ku Turugi / Fg701
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: brady on April 07, 2002, 01:21:24 PM
Yes Mathman that is a great book I have fliped through it myself, maybe now I will Buy it:)

 Mitsu I realy feal now more than ever before their is a fealing in the AH comunity that more planes for Japan are wanted, another carier plane (atack) and another Fighter (ki-84). Not to mention the possable varients of the ones we have.
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Karnak on April 07, 2002, 03:59:54 PM
See my sig.
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: eskimo2 on April 07, 2002, 04:09:09 PM
The Japanese are still lacking in bombers, esp. navy bombers.

What I think we most desperately need fot the pacific is:

Early A6M
Kate
Val

F4F
SBD


eskimo
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Seeker on April 07, 2002, 04:13:59 PM
No more Japanese A/C until we have confirmation they'll get the name(s) and model number(s) right!
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Karnak on April 07, 2002, 04:33:03 PM
eskimo,

They're also lacking competitve fighters.

They have 1, and it is always so limited in the Pac CT environment that it has no effect.

They need the Ki-44-IIb and Ki-84-Ia to give them a real chance at air superiority.

A B6N2 or B7A2 would give them a carrier strik aircraft that would be usable with the current planeset.
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mathman on April 07, 2002, 09:52:01 PM
I would hope that HTC does one of two things (or both :)).

1: Finish the late/mid war PTO plane set by adding a SB2C for the USN, and a B6N Jill and D4Y Judy for the IJN - can anyone say Philippine Sea?

and/or

2: Create an early war CV set of SBD and F4F for the USN (we can use the TBM here since it was in 2 of the 4 CV battles of 1942 and the only real difference between the -3 and the -1 that took part was the addition of rockets and 2 50's firing forward instead of the single in the cowl).  For the IJN, we would need an early Zeke (the A6M2 21), the D3A2 Val and the B5N2 Kate.  Can anyone say Midway or Santa Cruz?

I would like both and really have no preference for either set (well, that isn't true, I love the F6F and would like to fly it in a late war CV battle, but I also like the F4F and want to "Thach Weave" some Zekes with a wingman :)).

-math
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Jester on April 08, 2002, 01:58:53 AM
Like your First proposal Math - Give the USN the "Beast" and the IJN the JILL & JUDY. Then things could get real interesting in the PTO based scenarios and in the CT.

Brady.... You are "still" the ONLY ONE that wants a flippin GRACE. :p  LOL!
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: TheOxman on April 08, 2002, 06:34:21 AM
What about theses.

The Nakajima B5N Kate did not have armor, self-sealing tanks, forward firing MG (Only one 7.7mm in the rear) Kamikaze plane only, I reckon. Is it worth it? More is always better. Top speed 235mph


The Nakjima B6N Jill had 2 7.7mm forward and a ventral MG (7.7mm?) It replaced the Kate in 1943. reports call the Jill as not much better that Kate.
Top speed 301 mph.

For a PTO IJN early planeset:
KI-43/ Oscar / Fighter (intro.1941)
KI-27/ Nate / Fighter (intro.1938)
KI-45/ Nick / Sort of a JAAF's version of Me-110 (intro.1942)
B5N/ Kate / Torpedo bomber (intro.1938)
D3A1, VAL / Dive bomber (intro. 1940)
D2Y2, Judy / Dive bomber (intro. 1942)

For a PTO IJN late planeset:
KI-84/ Frank / Fighter (intro . 1944)
KI-100/ Fighter (intro. 1945,Basiclly a radial version of the Ki-61)
B6N/ Jill / Torpedo Bomber (intro. 1943)
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 08, 2002, 10:09:59 AM
NATEDOG will make NATE. :D
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: FDutchmn on April 08, 2002, 11:08:05 AM
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Originally posted by Seeker
No more Japanese A/C until we have confirmation they'll get the name(s) and model number(s) right!


hey, all HTC has to do is ask us (Mitsu, Sekiji, Busa01, and yours truly as interpreter)
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Dr Zhivago on April 08, 2002, 11:58:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by brady
Hey Mitsu do you know where I can get good interior pics of the Grace?


Aichi B7A1 Ryusei (Shooting Star) "Grace"
Looks like something essential is missing from cockpit...:rolleyes:
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Dr Zhivago on April 08, 2002, 12:05:10 PM
Well...seat is still there.:)
B7A1 or 2 ?  :confused:  "Grace"
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 08, 2002, 01:47:46 PM
Great pic! :)

-Mitsu
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: brady on April 08, 2002, 02:58:55 PM
Thats the one at the Pauel E Garber Facility right, I actualy touched that plane:) When the tour guied was not looking:)

 I managed to convert quiet a few people over to the Grace Andijg, come now my son salvation is at at hand surely you can see the light.........:)
Title: Re: 68Sentai(New Guinea) ki-61,plz:)
Post by: Tatyu on April 09, 2002, 12:26:12 AM
Mitsu  BANZAI!!
Sekiji  BANZAI!!
Respect is expressed to your courageous act. :D

We who say once again want Ki-61 series.
Many Ki-61 versions are required for us.

I want you to also solve paint of Ki-61, and the problem of a name.

Already, since the Europe battle line is good, make out the aircraft of the Pacific Ocean battle line..

I want to fight in F4F, P40, and Ki-61 series.

Thank you.


Tatyu
TOKYO SHOCK BOYS
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 09, 2002, 03:10:24 PM
A6M3.
A-20 Havoc.
Ki-61-I-b. (+ MG151/20*2 model would be more nice)
P-40.
F4F.
and something.

Wow, it's great addition for mid PAW! :)

-Mitsu
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 09, 2002, 03:15:23 PM
Hmmm, yes eskimo.
We need Japanese navy bombers...

I like Judy, Jill, Grace. they were beautiful planes. :)

-Mitsu
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: brady on April 09, 2002, 03:38:24 PM
Hey What about the Ki 102:)
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 09, 2002, 03:42:44 PM
I hate it, because it's Tac's toy. :D :D :D

------------
Mitsu
Stab./JG1 "Oesau"
"I cannot control Fw190 after riding Zero."
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 13, 2002, 07:01:07 PM
Ki-61-I-b and Ki-100-I-b are easier to release than any Japanese  Army planes.

Pleeeease..... :)

-Mitsu
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Glasses on April 14, 2002, 03:01:09 AM
MORE JAPANESE PLANES BANZAH!!!!!!!
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Glasses on April 14, 2002, 03:07:08 AM
MORE JAPANESE PLANES BANZAH!!!!!!!
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: DblTrubl on April 14, 2002, 02:29:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mitsu
I hate it, because it's Tac's toy. :D :D :D

LOL Mitsu. It wouldn't be just his...he'd have to fight me for the keys. ;)

And, yeah....what Glasses said.
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Mitsu on April 15, 2002, 05:40:17 AM
Yeah...I always need English teacher, but I'm Japanese teacher for you, Glass. ;)

It is "Banzai". "Banzah" is not right. :D

Example:
Banzai Attack = Suicide Attack
Banzai Charge = Suicide Charge

-Mitsu
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: RatPenat on April 15, 2002, 06:01:20 AM
Please more Japanese planes.

My F4u is full of Spits and La7's kills.

More variants Ki-61 and Zeke, new planes like Val, Kate, Ki-43. And after this we can perk niki and put them a perk ki-84. No problem if in same patch perk La7 too.

They can put too early F4F, P40 or SBD and a pretty P47 M. And variants F6F. And i will hate them if put F7F, F8F or B29

Any web in english where i could look japanese planes (spec, number of planes built, etc)??
Title: Re: Re: 68Sentai(New Guinea) ki-61,plz:)
Post by: FDutchmn on April 15, 2002, 10:35:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Tatyu
Mitsu  BANZAI!!
Sekiji  BANZAI!!
Respect is expressed to your courageous act. :D

We who say once again want Ki-61 series.
Many Ki-61 versions are required for us.

I want you to also solve paint of Ki-61, and the problem of a name.

Already, since the Europe battle line is good, make out the aircraft of the Pacific Ocean battle line..

I want to fight in F4F, P40, and Ki-61 series.

Thank you.


Tatyu
TOKYO SHOCK BOYS


oh dear me... please don't forget me... :rolleyes:
Title: How about this japan plane...
Post by: Dr Zhivago on April 15, 2002, 10:52:18 AM
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Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Glasses on April 15, 2002, 01:46:37 PM
no Banzah Mitsu?

awww come on I know it's BANZAI but I say.....


BANZAH!!!!
Title: FDutchmn BANZAI!
Post by: Tatyu on April 16, 2002, 04:21:50 AM
FDutchmn,

I'm sorry.
It was desperate for translating into English, and he forgot.;)

However, I knew many of your heroic contribution.
And I have seen those things with respect.

I am contributing more, if English currently considered is skilled.:D

It prays that Japanese Plan is equipped more.
May Ki-61 series and Ki-100 series are supplied especially!

Tatyu
TOKYO SHOCK BOYS
Title: More Japanese Aircrafts for PAW.
Post by: Sachs on April 16, 2002, 07:31:57 AM
My vote is for the Ki-102.  If we cannot get the Me-410 then this would suffice for now.  The grace would also be nice.