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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on April 12, 2002, 09:22:14 AM
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50 years ago this week, the Boeing B-52 Stratofortress was penned by engineering as "in work". 2 years later in 1954 the first B52A made its first flight. I'd personally like to thank Boeing and its engineers at that time for making the world alittle safer with the shear presence of this aircraft that is today still flying.
(http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/Funny/b52.jpg)
Bomber Characteristics
The B-52's eight turbo-fan engines are mounted in pairs on sharply raked forward pods under the 185-foot wing. Its operational range with one air refueling is 7,500 nautical miles. The main landing gear units retract into wheel wells in the body. The gear has eight main wheels in double tandem and two small protection wheels at the wing tip. Retracted, the main wheels are housed two-each in four fuselage wheel wells, while the outrigger gears go up into the wing.
B-52 striking power can be either nuclear or conventional. Depending on the external conventional configuration, a load of 45 or 51, 500-pound bombs can be carried 18 or 24 on external wing pylons and 27 in the bomb bay. Or 20 air-to-surface nuclear missiles may be carried, internally and externally. A conventional weapons load totaling more than 50,000 pounds can be carried.
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Recently had a trip to Duxford to visit the museum there and they have a B52 on display, apparently the only one in Europe and Duxford was the shortest runway it has ever had to land on. I'd seen this one before visiting Duxford on a few occassions, my girlfriend was with me this time, she paid for a weekend there as a kind of christmas present and the sight of the B52 really made her speechless.
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This aicraft has become a symbol of death and murder for millions of people...
(http://mina.ru/posters/cuba/28.jpg)
Sorry.
B-52 was always a target number one. Kill them before they'll drop...
But it looks nice and dangerous.
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Pic of the American musuem hangar at Duxford, B52 has a B29 and B17 tucked under each wing, they look like they could fit in the glove box of the B52 :)
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I am of the opinion that all bombers should be known as Boeings. After all, when you copy something, you Xerox it. All tissue paper is Klenex and all crayons are Crayola's. Some companies' products just define the product itself.
All bombers should just be referred to as Boeings.
:D
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Originally posted by Boroda
This aicraft has become a symbol of death and murder for millions of people...
(http://mina.ru/posters/cuba/28.jpg)
Sorry.
B-52 was always a target number one. Kill them before they'll drop...
But it looks nice and dangerous.
Why the hell would the Cubans be pissed about a B-52?....
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Bah!
Boroda's just pissed because they never had the oppurtunity to steal one and copy the design.
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I dunno Tah Gut, but check out the upper right hand of that "poster".... ends in .ru, a russian website
Oh, and if you go to that site... there's some bare chested hotties... worth a visit. :)
-SW
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That poster just proves that this design had the exact effect that the Gov't wanted. ;)
Just imagine our world if this great piece of technology (as well as others)for its time had not detered the Soviet Union from attacking us with nuclear missiles. It is/was an important national defense resource.
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to the plane and her crews over the years
we owe them more than we'll ever be able to repay
"The best defense is a strong offense"
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Originally posted by Boroda
This aicraft has become a symbol of death and murder for millions of people...
Yes, but the Tu-95 only dropped milk and cookies for starving children :rolleyes:
-Sikboy
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I got to see some doing hard banks at low altitude whaile I was at Fort Bliss years ago. It's really impressive seeing something that big do a 45 degree bank and haul it around.
Charon
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Well, it's a movie poster "Forgotten War", maybe it's about Vietnam.
Just imagine how does it feel when you know that these birds cruise our borders with 25 megaton eggs each...
B-52 was the main target for most of the PVO SAMs. You know, I studied as an S-200 SAM technical division officer. They were supposed to be our main targets. 10 kiloton special warhead.
This silouette was the symbol of nuclear threat for us. And that bombings of Vietnamese cities :(
Tah Gut, we had Tupolev's bombers, but USSR never thought that bombers are a main delivery tool.
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Originally posted by Boroda
B-52 was the main target for most of the PVO SAMs. You know, I studied as an S-200 SAM technical division officer. They were supposed to be our main targets. 10 kiloton special warhead.
Kinda hard to set off a 10 kilo Nuke warhead when the enemy plane is flying 50 feet off the ground ain't it? ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Kinda hard to set off a 10 kilo Nuke warhead when the enemy plane is flying 50 feet off the ground ain't it? ;)
Didn't you see "Fail Safe?" lol, they were going to force it into the ground.
Boroda,
[edit] damn, font didn't transfer over lol
Вo время я был в военном флоте, мы всегда волновались бы о Tu-95-ых и даже если о них не думали как " главный инструмент поставки " они могли бы начинать(запускать) на нас от их баз, и это было достаточно
Translation from Gibberish... When I was in the Navy we always worried about the Tu-95's. Even if they were not considered a "Primary Delivery tool" they could still nuke our base without leaving theirs lol.
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but USSR never thought that bombers are a main delivery tool
Partially correct, the USSR never didn't really consider the bomber a strategic delivery method against the continental USA. They sure spent a lot of effort and resources on bomber development though as a delivery device for specific tasks (anti-CV work) or to work in continental Europe.
Consider:
Tu-95 Bear (and all the zillion variants)
Tu-22 Backfire (again, many variants)
Tu-160 Blackjack (with no conventional role)
Bison
Tu-16 Badger
Tu-22 Blinder (same designation as Backfire but earlier).
All had/have nuclear capability.
All were attempts to create a bomber of sufficient survivability and range to be used as an atomic bomber. Several inherited other roles as time passed but all were expected to carry out the nuclear role. Most lacked the range for hitting anything not in Europe as it turned out except on a 1 way trip. The Tu-22 would have been a squeak to stop in Europe though with it's high speed and long range weaponry.
The USSR did put high value on bombers as delivery weapons, maybe not against the continental US though until the Tu-160 showed up (of which there are about the same number of B2's now). These only list the major bombers that made it into service too, there were many more that did not.
-Soda
The Assassins.
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WTG Boeing :)
(from proud former member of CSRL engineering support team)
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Heard a story somehwere about three generations of the same family; a grandfather, son and grandson.. all flying in or in the same unit with the same B52 over the span of 40 years.
That's staying power.
One afternoon I watched a scramble out of Pease AFB.. B52 after B52 thundering overhead.. the old 707 type tankers goin out too, Phantoms.. they put everything in the air that day. Everything. It scared the livin toejam outta me. I thought some dickhead had pushed the button. Was the most awe-inspiring thing (once i got past the terror) I ever saw the Air Force do... the ground shook for over an hour.
SAC, history now; but never forgotten.
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Agreed Hang,
I remember when March was the SAC base for the 15th AF. You knew when a 52 was flying over....never ever had to look. Nothing sounds quite like that.
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awesomely effective AC but a pig to work on!
It's amazing what they've accomplished.
wrinkled-skin, wing-drooping, tail-high takeoff summich' :)
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They did a B52 flyby at the Texas NASCAR race last weekend. The pilot put it on the wingtip after he cleared the track, what a sight. -oh yeah-On Sunday, with a 500' cloud deck, we heard the B52 come in low overhead, must have been practicing, but I knew that sound. I have seen em scramble too, pretty GD cool.
(http://www.lizking.com/b52small.jpg)
(My brothers plane after a clean hit)
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How many Birthdays has it taken away?
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About 100000 times less birthdays than it has enabled.
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How many birthdays did the HE-111 enable?
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Hey why don't you mosey over to the "liberal peacenik UBB" at http://www.kissmyass.com