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Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 16, 2002, 12:34:51 PM
has better K/D ratio than 190F8, HurricaneIID ...
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Wilbus on April 16, 2002, 12:47:16 PM
:D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: AKDejaVu on April 16, 2002, 01:21:40 PM
Holy crap mandoble... why don't you just write your own game and make everything in it exactly the way you feel it should be.

AKDejaVu
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 16, 2002, 01:46:37 PM
AKDejaVu, look for a doctor urgently.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Yeager on April 16, 2002, 02:07:35 PM
Relax, its just a game.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Wilbus on April 16, 2002, 02:12:00 PM
Oh there's the relaxing man again, he's getting on my nerves too :D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Wotan on April 16, 2002, 02:15:02 PM
how can you relax with that check 6 feature ruining everything
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: AKDejaVu on April 16, 2002, 02:49:40 PM
mandoble.. look for another game... immediately.  I guarantee there are several flight sims out there with all of the inadequacies you seem to enjoy highlighting.

AKDejaVu
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: minus on April 16, 2002, 03:09:06 PM
thanks to god the BBS board dont have colts !!!!

 poor Mandoble will be already lynched be yanks :D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Toad on April 16, 2002, 03:13:01 PM
Didn't someone post something about the B-26's actual combat record against fighters not too long ago? Seems IIRC it did pretty well.

Minus... you lynch people with a rope, not a Colt.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Mathman on April 16, 2002, 03:20:58 PM
Why do we need to hang him?  He seems to be doing a good enough job of it himself.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: minus on April 16, 2002, 03:24:00 PM
ToAD yes i know but  some pepz not got time for rope , they to hot for colts :D


seems US planes become a fanatic religion , if you tuch  them you  gona get burn for that
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: AKDejaVu on April 16, 2002, 03:36:11 PM
Just one question mandoble... how long after that b-26 shot down your dora did you wait to post this?

AKDejaVu
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 16, 2002, 04:12:39 PM
Djvu, I got to the definitive conclusion you are a child, I have no interest at all to reply to childist posts any more. Try to find some friends at the school to determine the real sex of Barbie or something similar more in accordance with your level.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: AKDejaVu on April 16, 2002, 04:18:04 PM
So.. are you saying a B-26 did not down you in your Dora just prior to you posting this?

AKDejaVu
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: AKDejaVu on April 16, 2002, 04:25:02 PM
BTW... if the thought process isn't clear...

mandoble... usually pro LW rides... writes a post comparing the lethality of a B-26 to the lethality of a Hurricane.   Both are planes he does not fly.

A flag is raised.

A quick check of stats confirms that he has flown neither plane... so the concern is not a result of experiencing the deficiencies of hurricane handling.  A glimpse also reveals that mandoble has spent a large portion of his flight time in LW rides.  Then the suprising number:

Mandoble has 185 kills and has been killed 11 times in the Fw 190D-9.

Wow... impressive numbers.  But why the snide B-26 post?  Hmmm... let's check something else...

Mandoble has 1 kill and has been killed 1 time in the Fw 190D-9 against the B-26B.

Damn...  I guess I'd rather be labled childish than simple.

AKDejaVu
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Puck on April 16, 2002, 04:27:43 PM
...which reminds me, the P51D is unfair.

I'll leave it to DejaVu to figure out why  :D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: skernsk on April 16, 2002, 04:29:10 PM
Mandoble how many Hurricane IID's do you see in the arena?  I see "0".  I see more B26's and that might be why the B26 has a better K/D.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: AKDejaVu on April 16, 2002, 04:39:53 PM
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Originally posted by Puck
...which reminds me, the P51D is unfair.

I'll leave it to DejaVu to figure out why  :D
LOL! That's too easy.;)
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Pongo on April 16, 2002, 06:18:42 PM
go dv go
lol
Its like the end of a columbo episode..
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 16, 2002, 06:32:36 PM
AKDejaVu, not, you are not a child, you are a four bits processor with 16k or RAM, absolutely obsessed with statistics, but above number 15 you are absolutelly lost (and that if unsigned).

Bwt, last time I was killed by a B26, as far as I remember, was by a landing one (or at least I seems so). My point is not related to those that use the B26 like a bomber, but to those that simply take off with one and no bombs just to provide the best possible CAP against goon attemps. Obviously, you will reply that this is historically accurate cause you saw that and that TV "pink" program that blah blah blah ...
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: AKDejaVu on April 16, 2002, 06:59:04 PM
I'd respond mandoble.. but I don't understand a word you just said.

Oh.. wait... I did understand this:
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My point is not related to those that use the B26 like a bomber, but to those that simply take off with one and no bombs just to provide the best possible CAP against goon attemps.
What I fail to understand.. is how this has absolutely anything to do with what you posted above.  Mainly because you didn't mention anything in regards to use, goons or base defense anywhere in this thread.

Sure sounds like someone trying to make excuses now.  I didn't think I hit that close to home.  Its o.k. mandoble.. it'll get bigger when the hair starts to pop up.

AKDejaVu
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 16, 2002, 07:14:25 PM
ROFLOL AKDejaVu, your posts are funnier and funnier each time.
My first post was more than clear for those that have more than 4 bits to think.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Sikboy on April 16, 2002, 07:14:37 PM
Mandy just likes to try to shame people with the "you're a child" line. Which is funny to anyone who has kept up on this forum. But with DJ in here, it's like the irrelevant force vs. the Illogical object. Should be fun to watch.

-Sikboy
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: FDutchmn on April 16, 2002, 08:49:16 PM
Mandoble, AKDejaVu, go settle your problems elsewhere! :D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Toad on April 16, 2002, 10:35:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by minus
seems US planes become a fanatic religion , if you tuch  them you  gona get burn for that


Yeah, I've noticed something like that myself around here.. but it wasn't the US planes that were the object of veneration.

:D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: mipoikel on April 17, 2002, 02:05:09 AM
WTG MANDOBLE :D



mipoikel has 4 kills and has been killed 0 times in the Fw 190D-9 against the B-26B. :D

mipoikel has 52 kills and has been killed 14 times in the Fw 190D-9. :rolleyes:

Rest of my stats sucks...:o


B26 is hard to kill if there is good pilot in it. It is fast and turns well. Yesterday I hardly get one in F4U. I think B26's good K/D is because some newbies are trying to kill it from 6. (me too sometimes)  :D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: SOB on April 17, 2002, 02:32:27 AM
Mandoble...Why is it bad for someone to take up a B26 to escort a C47 if they so desire?


SOB
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Montezuma on April 17, 2002, 02:49:52 AM
Can't wait for the invader.  
I don't even fly buffs, I just want to hear the crying.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Pepe on April 17, 2002, 02:53:47 AM
I disagree. I find B-26 the toughest buff to kill. From my experience, this is caused, mainly, because it turns very well, and is very fast. Bearing in mind the rest of the planeset, I think its flight model is right. The reasons why it is a formidable killer related, indirectly, to that. The ability to steer the plane from gun stations, plus the absence of G-force effects on the gunner makes the gunner job FAR too easy on any Buff.

Add to that the difference in lethality any buff has over any fighter(except Ju88) both in terms of range, ROF, ballistics and stability as a gun platform, and you got it. A fast, manouvering plane, extremely stable gun platform, not affected by G-forces (on the gunner task), and able to point each and every gun able (some times out of the real firing arc) to see the target, even through surfaces, to a single one, even in a multiple bogey environment.

Cheers,

Pepe
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 17, 2002, 03:30:59 AM
SOB, this is not the case, just the opposite.
This post is about B26, but may be related to any other buff type. The fact is that I've seen this behaviour in B26 much more than with any other plane. Some one pickups a B26 and start a CAP at his base at very low level with an unloaded B26 using it as mobile ack/fighter looking for goons or M3 while smashing the attacking jabos. The funny thing is that they are getting a good degree of success in this role.
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: mipoikel on April 17, 2002, 04:34:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MANDOBLE
SOB, Some one pickups a B26 and start a CAP at his base at very low level with an unloaded B26 using it as mobile ack/fighter looking for goons or M3 while smashing the attacking jabos. The funny thing is that they are getting a good degree of success in this role.


Thats exactly what just happened in A8 5mins ago. But I killed  it...:D
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: SOB on April 17, 2002, 06:15:16 AM
I see what you mean now.  Still, more power to 'em.  First of all, they're upping from a disadvantage if they choose to try and cap a base that's being attacked.  At any point from the time they spawn to the time they're able to set autopilot and hop to a gun position they're completely helpless.  After that, they're flying low level in a sturdy gun platform, with enemy fighters buzzing around above them.  All the enemy fighters/JABOs need to do is get a little half-assed coordination going and dive in on the poor bastard at the same time and he's toast.  Hell, one experienced fighter should be able to down him with minimal or no damage to himself with that kind of alt advantage.  If they can't, their buff killing skill level is probably somewhere between that of an FDB or a sea slug (the sea slug being at the top of the chart, naturally).

If these B26s are having any success at this kind of tactic at all, it's surely because they're killing an endless stream of newbies flying in single file up their 6.


SOB
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Sikboy on April 17, 2002, 08:14:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MANDOBLE
Some one pickups a B26 and start a CAP at his base at very low level with an unloaded B26 using it as mobile ack/fighter looking for goons or M3 while smashing the attacking jabos. The funny thing is that they are getting a good degree of success in this role.


Must really knot your shorts when someone ruins a perfectly good vultching session like that :rolleyes:

-Sikboy
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Seagoon on April 17, 2002, 11:38:22 AM
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Originally posted by Pepe
The ability to steer the plane from gun stations...


I hate to jump into such an entertaining thread with such a dumb question, but how on earth do you steer a B26 from gun stations?

Thanks for your help,

Seagoon
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: Pepe on April 17, 2002, 11:42:18 AM
Using rudder pedals  :)

Cheers,

Pepe
Title: Our lovely B26
Post by: CyranoAH on April 17, 2002, 01:16:01 PM
Mandoble, AKDejaVu.

Two Words.

Dueling Arena.

Daniel