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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: NUTTZ on April 16, 2002, 09:44:30 PM
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First a Hardy
to those that enjoyed my maps. And I've read every Kind word, I thank you all. I am glad those that chose to fly them had the same fun I did. I really want to let you guys know how good the feeling I get when I see you's having fun. I do have a thick skin and enjoyed doing these maps. You wouldn't ( well some do ) understand the time consumption of getting a map to completion. It is a burden and thank god i have not only a beautiful wife, but an understanding wife. Who saw my passion and let me run with it. I know that i could never please everyone, and of course there are many things that get over looked in a map, for the few flaws I am sorry.
It was very unfortunate tonight as my wife was watching me fly in Tunisia, the complains about the frame rate hits on this map, and one person quoted " whoever made this map must hate AH,and it's players" we'll I won't get into the words my wife said, or could i describe the look on her face, BUT she has In so few words said so much. With this I must pass the torch to the next set of mapmakers. Good Luck, God Bless, have thick skin and an understanding spouse.
NUTTZ
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Nuttz
a big S! your Tunisia and Perdonia maps are the 1s have the most fun on. Most of the folks I fly with enjoy them a lot. Brady did a great job with the set up and is only out done by your terrain.
You are an asset to the ct and ah. Dont let the jackarses get to you. Without you and the others making maps where would the ct be? The clouds do cause me a bit of an fps hit but nothing unmanageable. Especially when there are numerous other fields to fly from.
Could you please let us know who it was that made these statements?
Anyway great map great work.
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NUTTZ,
Your maps are great. Whoever said that is a dolt.
I'm sorry to see you pass the torch, but given the circumstances I fully understand. I'm just sorry that it happened that way.
(Frame rate issues:confused:, I didn't have any)
NUTTZ!
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Yeah, dont let yourself get down by a bunch of imbeciles that dont know how to use their computers.
Your maps were the best, I even hope HTC hires you to make a lot more of them.
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Nuttz,
As a quite regular CT flyer, I just have to say that my experience has changed since you were making maps. You are an artist, and I can see your hand in there. Sorry to hear what happened.
I hope it's not a final decission, but, whatever it is, just *Thanks* for your hard work. I know it is.
Cheers,
Pepe
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Good god, these people I wounder I realy do somtimes, We are all pashonate about this game and since we are we somtimes say impashioned things good and bad, I endevore as much as I can to consider the source and try to be objective, howeaver I fail at times, I hope you see this for what it was, dribble, and from someone who does not know anything for which he speaks.
NUTTZ wheather they realize it our not a great thing has happened here, and without that map of your's nothing could of happened at all, my god have you seen the numbers!
We must all bear in mind this map was from him alone, none of us asked for it, shure we looked at , but it was all his doing, and a most wonderfull thing it is.
NUTTZ dont let those A holes win, you are better than this biger than this, the best way to flip them off is to build more, better yet impower other's to do the same.
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Somthing else we nead to ponder or the rather those clueless clauds do, HTC did not load up NUTTZ's finial vershion, by mistake they uploaded an earlyer draft of this map, what few bugs their are ( far fewer than most all other maps I have seen, even MA maps are not bug free) are on a beta map of all things!
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what brady said :)
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NUTTZ,
Whew, I thought this was going to be one of those "I quit" threads. It's still sad to have you stop making maps, however. Your contribution to AH and the CT can't be measured and you are due for a long break, thank you. You will always be known as the first great player-map-maker. The Mitsu of mapers!
I only ask that you keep an eye on the BB Map forum to help out newbies, I have been hoping to make a map or 2 myself.
Thank you and salute!
I hope that you enjoy your new found spare time even more than you did making maps. Thank your wife for us for giving you up as much as she has already (I'm sure that this comes from 98% of us).
eskimo
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NUTTZ
Please explain to your better half that some in AH are still more concerned with their acne than any real life issue and don't have a clue what it takes to do anything yet.
This map is the best one yet. I do not suffer fps at all. Rock solid 80's with clutter on! It is well laid out for the smaller numbers in CT and is a blast. Don't let some moron's 2 cents bother you or yours. We wouldn't have the problem if AH kept it at $29.95 :)
to u and urs - for the time you and she have given us for our entertainment enjoyment
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NUTTZ, if you quit making maps we're all gonna come to Philly and rough you up! We cannot let you quit making maps. I know how it feels to put a lot of work into something and have people tear it down. Just try to wear a smile and soldier on man, the game is much better for it. :)
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NUTTZ, go back to your work of mapmaker, we need your awesome maps!!
Tell your beautiful wife we are not all idiots like those she saw.
:)
Come back, please! :)
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Last night I noticed a few comments about diminished frame rate, but nothing that bad. Personally my frame rate was down from a usual 60 to 30, but that seems to happen in any map when I'm in an area of dense cloud cover, as I was last night. In other words it was completely normal for me.
The Tunisia map is hands down the best map I've seen yet in my short time playing AH. I don't know the in's and out's of making a map, but I've learned enough to tell the difference between bad and good. Besides, the CT numbers speak for themselves. When I logged in last night to meet the squad I belong to there were 58 people in CT. THAT"S TWICE AS MUCH AS THE HIGHEST NUMBER I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST MONTH!
Get a clue, dude! You made an awesome map! To hell with the whiners. I wish you'd reconsider your decision!
RTRider
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NUTTZ,
The first time I flew the Tunisia terrain *my* wife was sitting at the computer next to mine reading eMail. I had her have a look as I was flying around because it was such a wonderful map. My artsy, computer illiterate wife loved it! Her only question was how long it takes to do something like that "on a computer." (I told her that there was an editor I was unfamiliar with but that I wouldn't be suprised if there was a couple hundred hours in it.)
I take a frame rate hit near the default storm front so I stay away from it. That is it, that is all, EVERYTHING else is excellent.
The map is fantastic and the planeset is a wonderful challenge for both sides. Those of us with two brain cells to rub together thank you for it and appreciate the effort it takes.
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Nuttz Please go get your wife. Sit her down and have her read this thread. Top to bottom, front to back. Don't you argue with her, let us plead your case.
There are always going to be 1 or 2 jerks who have no clue what they are talking about. However you very well know that the vast majority of AH players love and adore your work. AH pilots can be a fickel bunch, plus we know HT listens so we tend to whine a lot. In Perdonia some whined that there were no clouds. In tunesia some whined that there are too many. But thats all they are, just a whine. Not really worth listening too.
Nuttz your an artist. In your field you are better than Ruebens, Renoir, Picasso, Gaugan, even Michealangelo. Can an artist set down his brushes & walk away?
Take a break yes, renew his soul & spend more time with his wife yes. But quit?
I've been watching you & your terrains for some time now. I've always been a fan, & have done what I could to get others to see your ability & get you the status you deserved. Hang in there Nuttz, you know we all love you and your work.
However the real key here Nuttz was stated by brady. A combination of your terrain and his setup has had the CT full every night. Numbers have been higher than for any other CT I've seen. Your Tunesia will also I'm sure be used in many other events, TOD, etc.
Flying low over the desert has me reaching for my drink constantly. Man I feel hot & thirsty!
And if this really is goodbye, well Nuttz you've done your piece. You've paid back to AH way more than your share. bro, been fun flying with and against a class act like you.
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I was up in the north at one point and there was a large cloud bank that droped my rates considerable. In the south near field 30 I had smoking framerates.
I have seen a ton of positive feed back for this map. It should remain a classic that we can play again and again. I wish I had been online for that...must have been a hell of a flame fest from the majority of us that love the map and appreciate the effort.
Personaly I love that map. I love the feeling of speed flying low over the desert with the ocean off my wing. The smoke from a raid peeking above the horizon.
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Don't quit, just slow the pace down some. And certainly don't let ignorant statements cloud your perception of the outstanding work you do.
You know it's good.
You know it works.
You know this is by far the most popular CT map yet.
Recognize some people cannot find a positive way to state an opinion to save their lives, and ignore them. Listen to respectful, constructive criticism, ignore the rest.
The challenge to the rest of us is to defend the volunteers we have left, and to lift them up once in a while. While they may not do the work for the praise, it sure gets tiresome to hear negativity only. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but at least consider the time and effort that went into a project and also consider a way of stating your opinion in a way that will help make the project better. If all the volunteer ever hears is, "this sucks!", they will soon lose interest in volunteering. Nobody wins.
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Originally posted by hblair
NUTTZ, if you quit making maps we're all gonna come to Philly and rough you up! We cannot let you quit making maps. I know how it feels to put a lot of work into something and have people tear it down. Just try to wear a smile and soldier on man, the game is much better for it. :)
Hey. I'm already IN the area, Nuttz. E-mail me your phone number, so that I may have the distinct pleasure of pointing out to your bride the heroic status her husband has achieved with his Tunisia map. And also, so that I might remind her that tourists have occasionally complained that the Cistine Chapel's paintings have the wrong shades of blue around the edges.
- oldman
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Oldman:
And also, so that I might remind her that tourists have occasionally complained that the Cistine Chapel's paintings have the wrong shades of blue around the edges.
And my favorite: A person complaining that Shakespear's "Hamlet" was just a bunch of "old sayings."
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Hi Nuttz,
I don't post much, but feel the need to echo the sentiments of the others. You and the other map makers do a great job and are an integral part of the community here. That kind of comment made about "whoever made this map must hate AH and it's players" is way off-base and inappropriate. Even if the person made that comment as a joke (I was not there, so I have no idea), an apology is in order. And if they don't, just fuhget about em (perma squelch). There are way too many of us who appreciate and are aware of the hours you and the other mappers spend on your trade.
That being said, spending quality time is very important in relationships so I'm sure if maps aren't put out anywhere near as frequently as before, everyone will understand (those that have a clue anyways). Heck, when I read about how long it takes expert modellers to put together a piece like a 1/35 tank or 1/48 aircraft, it may take months! Their creations come out wonderful, just as the maps do. I'm sure a majority of this community does not want to see you hang up your virtual brushes. However, if it must be, then a sincere thank you for your great work and for being a contributor in the community
mauser
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I figure I'll give her a few weeks and flowers.
Tried to tell her one bad apple shouldn't ruin it for all. Me and My wife run our own business, at work I'm in control, at home well thats her domain.
Like I said a few weeks to cool off and flowers and I'll should be back mapmaking.
NUTTZ
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So glad to hear we can hope for more great work from you Nuttz!
It is a pity how thoughtless and cruel some people are. But for each of them there's 50 or more who love your maps!
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In the meantime Nuttz, you can sketch your comeback map.
I suggest a map with the shape of a fist and 1 finger pointing upward. :)
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Yea call it the Penninsula map. :D Tunisia is one of the purtiest maps I've seen in any game. Don't skimp on the flowers bud.
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All of the above positive comments go for me as well.
It really is a great map to play on and look at.
No frame rate issues for me anywhere.
And the numbers playing in the CT tells you its easily the most popular scenario in the CT to date.
Go buy LOTS of flowers and try to get wife to read this thread, when she does I am sure she will appreciate that many more people really appreciate your work and a few brain dead idiots can be safely ignored.
OK now we need a postal address for flower deliveries so your wife can appreciate how much we admire your work :)
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It was most unfortunate the wife happened to glance over just as one of AH's few complete idiots spewed. I hope she'll re-think painting us all with that brush.
I think the map is great along with your others. This one I like especially as it reminds me of my favorite terrain from AW. I almost always ran either the Libya or Egypt terrains with SAC, so flying in CT Tunisia makes me feel like I'm back in our old FT. Frame rates haven't been a problem for me at all and I even turned clutter on! It looks just fabulous and I really appreciate your taking the time to put it out for us. I really hope you don't have to throw in the towel because of a tard or two.
In Philly eh? I'm not far--Wilmington. Ya think you might make it to WW2 days airshow in Reading? Weekend of June7-9. Gonna try and get a bunch of people together for it. We had a great time last year.
Just watch Oldman around your wife--he's an operator!;)
Drano
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Originally posted by Pongo
I was up in the north at one point and there was a large cloud bank that droped my rates considerable. In the south near field 30 I had smoking framerates.
I have seen a ton of positive feed back for this map. It should remain a classic that we can play again and again. I wish I had been online for that...must have been a hell of a flame fest from the majority of us that love the map and appreciate the effort.
Personaly I love that map. I love the feeling of speed flying low over the desert with the ocean off my wing. The smoke from a raid peeking above the horizon.
A couple of things--
First, this MAP is one beautiful piece of woirk. There was obviously alot of thought put into the the field placement as well as the textures.
Second, the guy that said the insulting comments about the terrain and its author, I wouldnt consider him an idiot at all. However if all you had to go on was his statements at that time you might think he is:). I have an average machine, 1400 MH athlon, 512 MB DDR RAM, Geforce 3. I dont get under 45 fps in those clouds, so I can't relate to that problem.
Nutz, glad you ar reconsidering. You are certainly appreciated by more than a few around here.
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Was fun flying with you last night ammo...Next time hold those spits down for me so I can hit them.
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Basically what everyone else said,
The comment said far more about him/her than you.
It's a sad fact of life now a days NUTTZ,
"Those that can, do. Those that can't, squeak about the acheivements of those that can."
Glad your reconsidering.
TTFN
snafu
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S! Nuttz
I have had a chance to work with quite a few of the mapmakers in AH.
The only guy who can match you is Sundog. And he`s been doing it a lot longer.
It is true that getting involved in creating goodies for this game eats up the spare time. I know I got about 2 hours of flying time in the two months when I was designing and helping to stickhandle `Invasion Sicily`.
In situations like this, when you burn out, then it`s time to take a break. Come back when you are so inclined.
Your fan club here will be intact... :)
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Nuttz..
Tell the wife I still love you.
;)
If I had 1/10 your talent, I'd be somebody... not the low life loser I've become.
Yer maps make me smile... I love the glimpse I get into an artists mind when I get to preview 'em with yah. I am in awe.. and will not tolerate yah putting down yer brush because a dolt toejam in the paint bucket.
We got lotsa dolts... only one Nuttz. Don't stop dippin the brush in the bucket...
, dipshit.
;)
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Who all is going to the air show? I'll be more than happy to go. Do you all meet there or a central spot? i Have a very comfy conversion van that could haul 7 very very comfortbly.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by Drano
It was most unfortunate the wife happened to glance over just as one of AH's few complete idiots spewed. I hope she'll re-think painting us all with that brush.
I think the map is great along with your others. This one I like especially as it reminds me of my favorite terrain from AW. I almost always ran either the Libya or Egypt terrains with SAC, so flying in CT Tunisia makes me feel like I'm back in our old FT. Frame rates haven't been a problem for me at all and I even turned clutter on! It looks just fabulous and I really appreciate your taking the time to put it out for us. I really hope you don't have to throw in the towel because of a tard or two.
In Philly eh? I'm not far--Wilmington. Ya think you might make it to WW2 days airshow in Reading? Weekend of June7-9. Gonna try and get a bunch of people together for it. We had a great time last year.
Just watch Oldman around your wife--he's an operator!;)
Drano
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i saw some of the frame rate complaints while i was there flying .... and thought to myself wow some one has a 56k connection and a way slower computer then I do (or a way over priced pile of junk).... thats amazing (I bet they suffer from road rage to)
my old 486 with an intel 810 vid card on a 711kbs dsl connection had frames running from 21-30 most of the time looking forward at the terrian i didnt have any problems in traffic at all ... Nuttz it works just fine for an below average pc
and dont laff to hard at my pc ... all my freinds want to take it apart and see why it tics so well for so many years ... (must be the plutonium) and trying to butter me up with pent 3's bah i say !!
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Wow roscoroo that sounds pretty damn unbelievable.
And to nuttz: Dont let the skimpy love muffines with 20 year old hardware get to you with their whines..
If they can't buy a computer that's dated with less than 2.5 years back, they simply can't afford to play the game. It's that simple.
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Well, mine is AMD 1Ghz, 512Mb PC133 Memory, Win98, Cable Modem and AGP 4 compliant Radeon 32Mb video (State of the art one year ago...) and near the STORM (not the fluffy clouds mind-you, but the storm front) my frame rate has dropped to only 14. The normal frame rate I see is 30-60.
I was online and playing the evening (Seattle time) that the unfortunate comment was made. At the time the storm was sitting just off the coast near where I and a number of other folks were flying (Me in a P51B. S! to all those who shot me down over and over. I even managed to get offed by a 202.) I am wondering how much of the grouse was a result of the storm and not the result of the clouds.
My understanding is that the storm front is a default feature that HTC would need to remove.
For myself, I am simply in love with the arena. Late last night Seattle time when there were only 9 people on, I still had no trouble finding trouble. So far as I am concerned, the only thing that could make it better is more ground vehicles to shoot up. (And dust clouds of course, but that would be rather counter productive frame rate wise.)
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HFMudd if I may disagree about the radeon being top-notch one year ago..
It may have been that in ATi advertising campaign though :)
The truth is that Ati was lacking behind BAD before the introduction of 8500. The problems with driver development only made things worse.
With 1gig athlon and 1 year old top-of the line displaycard you should average around 80fps in 1.09 AH with peaks over 100fps.
I get 24fps in fully smoked field up to 220fps in a clear sky >20k with a geforce2mx400. NOT a top-of-the-line card one year ago, far from it. It averages 80-100fps in normal flight.
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Good news your'e back to work NUTTZ, french-kiss your wife for us plz :)
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I get 24fps in fully smoked field up to 220fps in a clear sky >20k with a geforce2mx400. NOT a top-of-the-line card one year ago, far from it. It averages 80-100fps in normal flight.
*Blink* Hmmm. Time to cook up some excuse my wife will buy for me getting a new video card...
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
Who all is going to the air show? I'll be more than happy to go. Do you all meet there or a central spot? i Have a very comfy conversion van that could haul 7 very very comfortbly.
NUTTZ
Still a lil early to tell who all will go. I'm planning on being there for sure. We all met last year at the Officer's Club. Worked out fine. Let's re-visit this in a few weeks and maybe get a Mid Atlantic AH Mini-Con thing goin. Sound like a plan?
Drano
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HFMudd-
If you shop online, you could get a GeForce 2 GTS 64MB card that will blow that thing away- probably for around $100 US.
One link, there may be some cheaper (http://www.chaintech.com.tw/)
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Originally posted by Drano
Still a lil early to tell who all will go. I'm planning on being there for sure. We all met last year at the Officer's Club. Worked out fine. Let's re-visit this in a few weeks and maybe get a Mid Atlantic AH Mini-Con thing goin. Sound like a plan?
Diggit.
(Bringing your wife, Drano?)
- oldman
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nuttz... you can tell your wife that even tho he never flew your maps... The biggest lazshole in the game appreciates your effort. you got all those wussies gathered up in one place if nothing else but.... Anyone willing to do all that work is OK in my book. You simply made maps for people to play on. No convoluted strat or everquest crap just pure playing field.
Now get to work making an "area" arena for the main.
lazs
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Lazs, you would love that map. :) Some fields were REALLY close together.
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Lazs, for cryin' out loud, give it a rest.
The MA is always gonna be there; mind if a few guys try out a different arena once in while? You know, the "variety is good" sort of mindset? Is it good to support fellows who give of their time and energy to support the interests of others? Damn, I find your writing interesting, and you usually have a decent point to make, but can't you give a compliment or a word of encouragement without adding the backhanded comment? Let me give you an example:
"Nuttz, sorry some numbnut had to pee in yer Wheaties, your maps are cool."
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Diggit.
(Bringing your wife, Drano?)
- oldman
But of course:D
Drano
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Hey Nuttz! take a break, it's the NHL PLAYOFFS :D.
Sorry, :o, that's the Canadian in me talking.
Watch the Flyers :) take care of the Senators.
If not Hockey, then watch the NBA playoffs, 76ers against the Celtics. I think that starts Sunday?
Of course I'm assuming, that if you are a sport fan, that you are a Philadelphia sports fan, but you don't have to be ;) .
Then again, if you are, these games could be blacked out for you:eek:
In any case LEAVE THE EDITOR ALONE!!! for a bit. Better yet, stay away from it until the new version comes out :).
Pokie
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I hope you'll be back soon, no maps are as good as yours, you know it, and we know it. The guy who said that obviously don't know jack S*** and ya shouldn't let anyone like that ruin it for you (for us ;) ). I hope you'll be back and making more maps for us as soon as you've calmed down and taken a few weeks off, no hurry, just don't give it up for good please :)
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Yup, big sports fan, and a widescreen HDTV to boot!!
trouble is Philadelphia teams always let us down, they get us all hyped and lose by 1 point with 1 second left. GO FLYERS!!!!! GO SIXERS!!!!!!!!
Pokie, I'm not burned out on the TE, nor do what people say really get to me. It just was poor timing and the reply was more personable than a whine.
A minute later It was forgotten by me.
BTW, we need to talk Via phone I got a few brite ideas and wanna show you some new maps. LOL, wife saw the phone bill wanted to know who the hell i was calling in Nova Scotia, I said "Pokie" 1-900-Pokie-Girls, LOL
NUTTZ
Originally posted by pokie
Hey Nuttz! take a break, it's the NHL PLAYOFFS :D.
Sorry, :o, that's the Canadian in me talking.
Watch the Flyers :) take care of the Senators.
If not Hockey, then watch the NBA playoffs, 76ers against the Celtics. I think that starts Sunday?
Of course I'm assuming, that if you are a sport fan, that you are a Philadelphia sports fan, but you don't have to be ;) .
Then again, if you are, these games could be blacked out for you:eek:
In any case LEAVE THE EDITOR ALONE!!! for a bit. Better yet, stay away from it until the new version comes out :).
Pokie
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I said "Pokie" 1-900-Pokie-Girls
ROFLOL
If I wasn't so far away I would try to invite myself over to watch a game with you on that "widescreen HDTV":cool:
Pokie
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kieran... i thought that is what i did say?
lazs
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Nuttz,
on the map and the effort to go into it!!
Was mentioned the need to buy your wife flowers,
Where do you want them sent and i'll have some OTW
Blindman
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Wrong. I omitted this part:
biggest lazshole in the game appreciates your effort. you got all those wussies gathered up in one place if nothing else but....
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Nuttz, I haven't yet thanked you for your maps.
Thank you!
That comment is pretty well covered in this thread allready so I don't even need to go into that. ;) But one thin, show this thread to your wife!! It's the best way to back up your words about one rotten apple-thing. :)
P.S I don't remember who posted that pic of C.205 flying over your Tunisia-terrain with that lense flare but when I saw it my yaw literally dropped...
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kieran... was I a little too obvious? sometimes I have trouble with that. No, don't argue... I know i can be at times.
now nuttz... get to work on an "area" arena where normal people will show up.
lazs
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LOL, Then it would really be an empty arena.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by lazs2
now nuttz... get to work on an "area" arena where normal people will show up.
lazs
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No argument, you have your way of thinking. Not to say your area arena idea is good or bad, just sorry you have to forward it by pissing on the work of others.
While I often agree with you in your thoughts against people ramming strat down all players throats, I am equally against you ramming your area arena concept down our throats. Your proposal is just as exclusive as any of theirs were to you.
I wouldn't mind if you made comments about the CT if you would once condescend to enter the arena. Fact is, you don't. Worse, you talk about how bad it is when you never go in there yourself! The numbers don't always tell the story. The fights are fun in there, often more so than in the MA. I fly both, I know. I am also furballing in the CT, just like I do in the MA.
No, you won't admit it could be fun because you are too focused on getting what you want at the expense of what others do. And that is my final grind on this. You've forwarded an idea, big deal. YOU make the map. YOU set up and monitor the arena. YOU take the responses from players who don't even play in your arena but tell you how bad it is in there. If I was Nuttz I wouldn't touch your map with a ten-foot pole, because no matter what he does you're gonna piss on it anyway.
Now I'm being obvious.
Ideas are valuable and needed. The status quo needs shaken up occasionally. There is no panacea arena, so fresh ideas are good. In the end, someone has to make it happen. Should HTC? Maybe, but why now? They have growing numbers, not shrinking. Granted they will need to evolve or lose money eventually, but it seems to me they are enjoying the greatest growth since the start of the sim. In other words the "problems" you see are perceived by you.
I may have different ideas than those that currently set up our play, but you know what? Until I have the time or inclination to do it myself I cannot criticize the hard work they have done. Moreover, I find having variety in play to be a good thing, and if this means a different arena or two, especially when players have the power to dictate what happens in those arenas, I am all for it. If I like the setup, I fly it. If I don't, I won't. I don't have to tell the people what wussies they are, I just don't participate.
I am not trying to wave the poms; I am saying that a person as vehemently against certain types of play and as harshly critical of player-generated work as you are needs to do more than talk. You need to do some "work" yourself. If you ever do, I guarantee I will back you 100% against any love muffin that make comments about the efforts you've put forth- not that it matters to you if I do, but it hopefully explains where I am coming from here.
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very good kieran... after eskimos flighty drivel it restores my faith in teachers somewhat but...
I take issue with two of your points. To be sure opinion is involved but... i believe that critisism is a good thing. When something is not working you don't tell the creators that they are doing everything right. that is not "polite" nor is it a sevice to anyone.
Also... I belive that everyone has certain talents or lack of them. I freely admit that I have no puter skills. I also believe that our current arenas are becoming outdated and running into the "what do we do now" wall.... seperate arenas? RPS? CT with or without RPS? maybe.... just perhaps I am doing some small thing by suggesting an idea that might break out of the mold.
now... I really don't care if you "piss" on my idea or not. helps hammer it out IMO. I would love to hear your idea. I don't believe that you have to be a programer to have an idea.
nuttz talent is not the issue. i am dazzled by anyone who makes these boxes do anything. Those who are ieda men... the gameplay guys I can understand tho. If it is a bad idea then my opinion on it is just as valid as any programers. I believe that nuttz's hard work is gointg to get critisized no matter what so it may as well be used where it does the most good and not on some lame gameplay idea.
But... bright lad that you are I would be glad to hear your idea's... Oh... not that it matters but I was in the CT on 3 occassions. just didn't get to do anything.
lazs
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But here's the deal, and I say this from experience- you can join the CM or CT corps, or possibly generate a new group of your own to test an area arena of someone else's design. In this way you have the opportunity to make exactly what you want to happen. You may find you have limitations (I sure did, and had no idea how limited CMs really are!) but you will be able to get some good done.
I am no programmer either, and I was able to serve a stint as a CM. I was able to influence scenarios by being on the Scenario Corps. This isn't a brag, it is the other side of the coin you need to see for yourself. Honestly, I think everyone should take a shot at leadership- it sure brings home exactly what these guys have to go through, and brings a better understanding of what can and can't be controlled by the player.
I really do suggest you start a new group- call it AA for "Area Arena" (you might even get some FDBs in there by mistake). You have support for your idea, and I'm sure someone can make a map. In my experience, it isn't that hard to get people to pitch in, it's the spearhead for the group that is difficult to find. Who knows, maybe it will take off gangbusters and replace the MA, maybe it won't, that's the risk. One thing is for sure, if you are serious about the idea and really want to see it happen you need to step out and take the risk. Your ideas will be held favorably by some, ridiculed by others, but you can be sure there will be many that appreciate any effort you put forth- I sure will.
Sure, criticism is helpful when constructively given. Too often the criticism offered by the AH community towards volunteer efforts is caustic. Taking Nuttz's example above as an example is exactly what I'm talking about. You get enough of that kind of smack, who wouldn't ask himself, "I've spent hours of my free time building this and this is all I hear from people?!" I'm sure Nuttz didn't build his maps to get a pat on the back; on the other hand, he sure didn't build it to get insulted, either. Poof, volunteer gone.
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"no puter skillz" is not really a valid excuse laz. Would be easy if "I'm too stupid" was a valid excuse, but most of the time it's not. I knew nothing about PC's 5 years ago myself, but instead of pleading "stupid" I just figured it out on my own. You can too. Try harder, you can do it.
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point taken kieran but... I have no interest in leadership or hard work. I also don't care about hard work only results. nuttz did a lot of hard work and had great results. others have done a lot of hard work and welll..... destroying steel ball bearings with a rubber hammer is a lot of work but hardly worthy of praise.
I also have said more times than I can count that I don't think seperate arenas work. An area concept is simply a way to (IMO) improve an existing arena that is lacking the ability to use a large percentage of the planeset.
anyway.... nuttz is talented.. too bad it turned out this way.
lazs
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In my experience you have born leaders, people that learn to lead, and those that will be led. I've never know anyone to lead by giving a shove to someone's backside. ;)
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kieran perhaps you should read a little more history and how power works. No one leads alone for long.
lazs
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Here's an idea for your comeback terrain, Nuttz...for all the fine folks who are content to squeak about your great maps, but don't seem to be able to lift a finger to make their own. :)
SOB
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Originally posted by pokie
ROFLOL
If I wasn't so far away I would try to invite myself over to watch a game with you on that "widescreen HDTV":cool:
Pokie
Wha? Pokie you here in NS? I'm in Halifax. Dude. Must go have a beer and shoot the toejam sometime.
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Originally posted by Lephturn
Wha? Pokie you here in NS? I'm in Halifax. Dude. Must go have a beer and shoot the toejam sometime.
Wow. Was in Halifax for a couple of days, on the way out to Cape Breton, two summers ago. You guys have it wrapped, so far as I'm concerned. What a great place.
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Originally posted by Lephturn
Wha? Pokie you here in NS? I'm in Halifax. Dude. Must go have a beer and shoot the toejam sometime.
Ya Lephturn, I think you said before that you were just up from the Armdale Rotary? Where's your watering hole. Do you go to the Boiler Room?
Pokie
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Whaaat? Some idiot criticised that beeyootiful Tunisia terrain?! Shoot them! And those FPS counters - turn the damned things OFF! Fly around, and if it looks good, it IS good. Only turn FPS counters on if you visibly have problems - use 'em as an investigative tool, not a flipping terrain-scoring system!
I've never experienced any problems even near the storm front, and my system isn't cutting-edge (800Mhz CPU, 192MB RAM, ATI Rage graphics card). I even seek out clouds and weather fronts to hide in, being a Bomberpiloten and a not so good Jagdflieger.
Esme
(Imagining a Mr Bader writing a letter pf complaint to a Mr Goering because the several hundred Heinkels and Dorniers escorted by a couple of hundred Emils he sent over the day before caused a massive FPS hit that completely bollixed Manston's defenders - they couldnt see the unit emblems of the planes they were shooting at for the bragging rights...)
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HI Nuttz...Thank you for ALL your efforts...I look forward more than anything in AH to new maps in the CT.
I would love to see rotating maps in the CT on resets.Maybe sometime in the future,AH will have branching maps and rotating planes etc..and we will all remember you as the dude who played the biggest part in making the CT so much fun!
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NUTTZ please tell your beautifull compassionate sultry goddess of a wife that we are not ALL like those morons!
lets face it anyone who cant run the tunisia map with a decent frame rate should be put on a rack, stretched and smothered in honey and locked in a room with a nest of killer bees!
I can catagorically state in my personal opinion that the tunisia map is not only the best map ive seen in AH. it is also the most innovative with the very limited tools you are allowed to employ!
PLEASE PLEASE dont stop making them.
A hearty to you mate and if you do have to stop because of these jerkoffs then i for one(and as you can see im not :)) am really sorry to see it.
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Coming late to this thread, but thought it was worth adding a big ditto. Nuttz, you did a great job here. I didn't get to fly in this as much as I wanted, and can't wait until it's rotated back, hopefully with a more substantial historical planeset (not a criticism, it was great with what we had--but you know what I mean).
I'd like to say that this terrain was so good that I got shot down twice because I was so busy looking around in awe (which is true). But then I've also got shot down for many lesser reasons as well!
Keep it up, don't either of you listen to the morons. Their frame rate suffers mainly because they have their heads so far up their asses!