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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JoeCrip on April 20, 2002, 03:33:19 PM
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Many people have been complaining about me lately. They say i have been check 6'ing them tens and hundred's of times, and they want me to stop.
Here is my "policy" with the 6 calls. If you kill steal from me, i will give you at least 100 Check 6 calls.
If you want me to stop
a) dont kill steal from me
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b) just squelch me
I am tired of getting kills stolen from me, 1 out of 3 kills i get are stolen by someone else. This is just my way of "getting back".
So stop whining, if i am doing it to you, you brought it on yourself
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My initial reaction is… You’re a tool and have now become the poster child for a permanent squelch list.
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Originally posted by Zippatuh
My initial reaction is… You’re a tool and have now become the poster child for a permanent squelch list.
Naw.. we don't need a permanent squelch list. What we need is a new "Check 6" feature: JoeCrip can click his mouse on a plane and "reserve" it as his target creating a special icon color. Then, when somebody else tries to kill that target their bullets do no damage and they get a radio transmission that says "We're sorry, but this target is reserved for JoeCrip, and even though it might take him the better part of 30 minutes to kill it, we ask that you move on to another target."
If you haven't killed it yet, and somebody else has a better shot, isn't it their target now?
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lemme clear 1 thing up. I consider a kill steal this:
When i shoot a plane's tail off, it is floation down, and some moron swoops down and steals the kill.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
lemme clear 1 thing up. I consider a kill steal this:
When i shoot a plane's tail off, it is floation down, and some moron swoops down and steals the kill.
OK.. I stand corrected; in that case you should be annoyed, but it does presume that the other guy has good eyesight and can tell that the plane is toast already. Most people do and I don't often see people go after "dead" planes. Does it really happen that much to you?
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To be honest, yes. As I said above. Out of every 3 times i shoot off a planes tail, my kill we be stolen AT LEAST once. Get's kinda annyoying after a while
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Joe,
I couldn't agree more on the kill stealers. Though I haven't resorted to giving check 6 calls.
Finding it very frustrating having kills stolen and having to pour more lead into a target (waste of ammo) then is needed just to insure that some dweeb dosn't pop off a few rounds into the smoking wreck and steal the kill.
If I see a plane going down with obvious (fatal) damage I don't shoot. I just wish other people would show the same curtesy.
...-Gixer
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I have been known to shoot into a dead plane when I feel cheated from the kill.
I once had a guy give me 100 6 calls in a single minute. I sent him back about 1000 over the course of the evening :)
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
lemme clear 1 thing up. I consider a kill steal this:
When i shoot a plane's tail off, it is floation down, and some moron swoops down and steals the kill.
Does it really matter that much? What are you worried about? You know you got the kill. Let the other schmuck burn up all his E and ammo chasing a dead plane.
We all know the score ranking system is FUBAR, so why let it bother you?
You fly away with the satisfaction that you really got the kill.
I just don't get it. (And I'm not being sarcastic)
I shall now read a passage from the book of Yeager:
"Relax, it's just a game"
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There is only 1 thing to make sure no 1 else steal ur kill.
" POP HIM " only blown up enema is a good enema :-)
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If you want me to stop
Would this fit under the term Ironic or Hypocritical?
If I get this right, JoeCrip claims "dibs" on his choice of enemy kills?
If he decides to kill someone, you better not also have the same idea or he will, in a manner best described as exacting a sort of pouting revenge, play the "check 6" repeatadly game.
Sounds like the type to also always have an excuse when he dies, why it must have been someone cheating, or outnumbering him, or something like that.
Geez Joe, get a grip. :)
Dago
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"2 wrongs don't..."
Don't hear that one much any more...
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If he decides to kill someone, you better not also have the same idea or he will, in a manner best described as exacting a sort of pouting revenge, play the "check 6" repeatadly game.
I dont care how many people help with me, or fight next to me, But when i shoot the enemy's tail off, dont kill steal
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Joe has spoken! (http://www.acclaim.com/games/southpark/southpark/images/soundbytes/cartman/CARMP088.au)
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WotW candidate Rude
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This isnt a whine. While i was in the MA today, a few were complaining that I was 6 calling them 100's of times. I am just explaining my actions, that's all. Don't kill steal from me, and we will all get along
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But when i shoot the enemy's tail off, dont kill steal
I couldnt agree more with you on this Joe, I hate it when someone does that. It happens every once in a while, but not real common. I usually go private with the guy who did it and tell him I dont appreciate that kind of play, and I leave it at that.
Dago
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I agree with you Dago, but in my case, there happen's to be a few "Usuall Suspects", who repeadly kill steal from me. It's as if they follow me around, and purposely target me and only me. Oh well, i just wont understand some people
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Come on, how can you NOT tell that a plane doesnt have a wing or a tail.
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The wing is pretty easy to tell. So is the entire tail section.
Sometimes, if the color of the plane is right and the sky and terrain is somewhat dark, I've not noticed missing elevators and horizontal stabs until I'm practically on the plane. Even then... the only time I've had difficulty seeing them has been when I'm in a steep dive and I can't really get a feel for the targets lack of forward motion.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
This isnt a whine. While i was in the MA today, a few were complaining that I was 6 calling them 100's of times. I am just explaining my actions, that's all. Don't kill steal from me, and we will all get along
This is the most pathetic, childish, idiotic behaviour I have seen in a while here. A yellow message patting you in the back for shooting a few pixels is so important to you, that you must haunt someone (who probably has you squelched anyways) and click the check six key so many times that your grandchildren will have carpal tunnel syndrome.
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"....Out of every 3 times i shoot off a planes tail, my kill we be stolen AT LEAST once....".
Here's a possible solution...shoot more parts off.
Why are you only shooting the tail off by the way?
bowser
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just make them blow up with those radical German guns.
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it was crazy off a5 the other day I was with 3 squaddies flying together we knocked down the high ones. We would kill a guy to watch 5 guys chase the con all the way to the deck one even augered trying to get an already ded plane. After the first few times I was on channel one calling the folks by name asking them why they keep shooting at planes some one else has already killed. Its not about score as much as some fediddlein pos that cant get a kill on his own.
Some of use dont need more then a few well placed hits to get a kill. I fly 109s wih 1 x 20 or 1 x 30mm once hes ded theres no reason to spray and pray like you allied pilots. My kill zone is 250 - 350. Flying like this vert stabs and shooting off the tail of the plane is how i get most of my kills. Every allied pilot fires from up to d 1k and can afford to hold the trigger fer a 1 sec or 2. If a 109 pilot does this he rtbs every few minutes. Same for yaks.
I think its funny that some folks are using what they can to mess with these types. Joe delete your check 6 .wav that way you wont have to worry about them 1000 responses.
Maybe like dogs some folks can be conditioned out of a certain behavior. If not it may be fun to irritate the crap out of them.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
lemme clear 1 thing up. I consider a kill steal this:
When i shoot a plane's tail off, it is floation down, and some moron swoops down and steals the kill.
HeHe!
I just love to watch some one do this after I have shot some one down. It is really comical and a pretty entertaining thing to watch. Nothing better than watching a team mate shooting and shotting at a dead A/C. If some needs a kill so bad, let them have it.
Cracks me up, steal my kills please!:D
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In the interest of conserving ammo, I elect to not spray until the baddie blows up. If I see a critical piece come off, I disengage. I'm sure many "pilots" do the same. (I don't experience much kill stealing, though, as I am a dweeb and get into most of my fights below 10k.)
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JoeCrip,
Listen dude, "Relax, it's just a game." :D
I have had this happen to me as well, and I have also done it a number of time, more on the side of a mistake. I would rather conserve ammo than shoot down a plane that is going down.
I distinctly remember two instances when I "stole" a kill. Once, when I was a newbie, I wanted to make sure the buff was going down. Second, I was so intent in getting the kill, I failed to notice that the enemy was floating, probably more due to lag.
When it did happen to me, the Spit was half winged obviously about to lose control. However, in the furball, 5 or 6 guys decided to go after it anyway.
But so what? Can't you enjoy the game without getting a kill? Resorting to multiple check 6 calls and then justifying it here... well... you are no different from the guy who took your kills.
Relax, it's just a game. Don't let getting kills the only source of your enjoyment in the game.
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Do not take the above advice JoeCrip.
Please continue being the hilarious retard for the amusement of all.
Thx bye.
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Animal, your just mad i shot down your Tempest yesterday, so i will your ignore comments, your probally just venting off
click the check six key so many times that your grandchildren will have carpal tunnel syndrome
BTW carpal tunnel syndrome isnt genetic.
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Get a life, man. It's just a game. I score infrequently, and often have kills stolen, simply because I'm a bad shot. I leave a con smoking and going down and someone else finishes him off.
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It goes the other way around too.
Sometimes I'll put a helluvalot of bullets into a bad guy and peel off to conserve 'e'. Sometimes there's no visible damage on the guy whatsoever (this happens a lot when I'm driving the F6F). A minute later, I'll see the guy with 3 or 4 friendlies on his tail. They shoot him down and I get the kill. Maybe there should be an attempt at revamping the scoring system. I know I've been accused of 'kill stealing' at least 3 times in this scenario in the last month or two.
I know kill stealing can and does happen, but why give a toejam? Do the scores really matter? Do you judge yourself by the rank that the HTC webpage assigns you? I've found that it's more fun to just squelch channel 6, find a wingman, and fly.
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geeze... when someone steals my kill I mention it to my squaddies. To use the six call feature for revenge is childish in the extreme. What a baby. you should join a LW squad as serious and chjildish as you are.
lazs
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Have to agree with muckmaw. Get over it. The 6 calls are just stupid. Had somebody think it was EZLee or something like that accuse me of stealing a kill. I couldn't care less who gets the kill. I was trying to clear another Knit's tail, that's all. He squeaked about it for 5 mins on radio. Shortly after I saw him get jumped by 3-4 bish, I let him go it alone, didn't want to be accused again of stealing his kill. :) Same thing happened again a little while later. Funny really. I'm a team player, can't bomb very good but do when needed and fly goons sometimes. I always try to help a fellow Knit, except for EZLee. :p Guess it works both ways joecrip.
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Well, wtf am i supposed to do, when A select few morons decide to follow me around and steal my kills? I have asked them to kindly leave me alone, and stop stealing my kills. Anyway, the check 6 thing has been working. A few people in the MA yestdaerday said...
"Joe is check 6 attacker"
"JoeC is drving me crazy"
When i hear these things, all i think is: A little justice done, for the victim of a kill steal.
As i said, out of every three times i shoot someone down, once it is stolen. That is a very unacceptable rate.
BTW, i am not worried about my score. Check my K/D, i think they are like 1.5 or somthing like that. Trust me, if i were score hounding my K/D woundt be 1.5. I am just very tired of this happeneding.
squelch channel 6, find a wingman, and fly
This sound's like a good idea, i'll give it a go next time i am in the MA
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"...Its not about score as much as some fediddlein pos that cant get a kill on his own....".
Actually it IS about score. Nobody, including you or Joe would care less about kill stealing if it didn't affect your score.
bowser
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
Animal, your just mad i shot down your Tempest yesterday, so i will your ignore comments, your probally just venting off
BTW carpal tunnel syndrome isnt genetic.
LOL. Why would I even vent about something I dont remember.
Maybe you shot me while I was giving the tempest a spin. Guess what? I probably didnt even notice it was you. I only read the buffer when its red or purple letters. 1 and 6 are squelched.
You see, thats the problem. You are so pathetic that losing perks or getting kills in a video game is important to you. You have come so low that to feel better about yourself you need recognition from an A.I telling you got a kill in yellow letters. So you think it must also be important to everyone else. You think You shooting my ugly perk ride is an event that I will remember for a month, because you would.
Guess what buddy...
Yeager:
...its just a game.
Carry on.
l8r, an
By the way, carpal tunnel isnt genetic
Are you aware of the term 'sarcasm'?
As in "I WILL PUNCH YOU SO HARD YOUR BABIES WILL BE BORN WITH RED EYES"
RUDE! this guy better be WOTW!!!
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I'm lonely...
I now know how to get someone's attention... beware next time you start shootin a con and see me nearby Joe +)
SKurj
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Originally posted by Preon1
It goes the other way around too.
Sometimes I'll put a helluvalot of bullets into a bad guy and peel off to conserve 'e'. Sometimes there's no visible damage on the guy whatsoever (this happens a lot when I'm driving the F6F). A minute later, I'll see the guy with 3 or 4 friendlies on his tail. They shoot him down and I get the kill. Maybe there should be an attempt at revamping the scoring system. I know I've been accused of 'kill stealing' at least 3 times in this scenario in the last month or two.
I've done this in the hellcat too... You pump a bunch of .50s into a guy, but don't want to kill your e so you break off. Later, you get the kill (you earned it after all). And the guy who "thought" he should get the kill assumes that you riddled the corpse. It's pretty funny.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
Just for the record Zip, you are on my list of kill stealers.
Cool! Do I get some type of award or something? Maybe a trophy, a plaque, a certificate of some type, or wait maybe one of those little gold starts. Yeah, I think that’s it one of those little gold stars. That way I can stick it on my monitor for every kill I steal from you. By the way you can send it in care of…
You’re still a tool at,
OMG you’re a big tool lane,
The biggest tool I have ever seenville, UTL
Here’s a hint. Get some sun, air even, read a book, watch TV, give the wife, girlfriend, friend, significant other, or lifetime partner a little tickle instead of playing AH for a while. I mean my god man; with the stats as of Sunday April 21 at 1115 CDT you have had 106 kills stolen from you in 35 and half hours of play.
Can you get any bigger of a persecution complex?
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Your "solution" is nothing better than sinking to their level. Be the better man and take the high road. You need to decide if you really want to detract from the community instead of improving it.
Not only that but you're perptuating the myth (IMO) of fake check 6s. HT worked hard to program this feature in and you are abusing it.
It sounds like you need to take a nice long break from AH if you're taking this game so seriously. Have fun or don't play.
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Zippatuh, 35 hours isnt that much. That's like what 1.2 Hours a day? Trust me, beacuse of my Job, i am outside a lot more that you.
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Ok, so now you’re dense as well as a tool.
My point was… 106 kills stolen in 35 hours of play. 106! That’s an average of 3 kills taken from you in an hour every hour.
And, if it is bothering you this much in that amount of time you are in the air, I’ll say again. Take a brake.
So you agree with the persecution complex then. Whew, good thing we agree on something.
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And why would i take any advice FROM a killstealer?
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much like killshooter effects mostly spray n pray 50 cal planes (you can tell because almost every killshooter sux threads are from 50 cal guys) they also steal kills almost exclusively. Not only do they continously fire over your shoulder they will chase a plane that is clearly dead all the way to the ground.
If they can ring a bell to get a response from a hungry dog I see no reason why 100 check sixes cant condition a reponse from the 50 cal spray and pray kill stealers.
Some off us only fly ah to get kills. We are not part of "your team" or care anything about strat etc.... We engage and either get killed or kill then move on to the next one. I dont think its too much to ask of anyone to simply not kill steal.
This goes back to that other guys thread about "teamwork" most of you care nothing about doing whats necessary to bring about a sense of teamwork. Check 6s are rare, clearing 6s are even rarer, most dont even now how to properly drag a con that doesnt result in the guy clearing your 6 to bleed all his e. And killstealing happens more and more.
These same types then get on channel 2 and scream about "team work". Well to these types the only thing that keeps me from not shooting them down is killlshooter. If I see a 50 cal plane spraying like made over my shoulder I have and will again forget the nme con at my 12 and fly into their bullet stream.
If you dont want 100 check 6s then then dont kill steal from joe :)
or delete the .wav file.
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Well Wotan, if you shot out his tail, you killed him didnt you?
Or do you absolutely need the reassuring 'pat in the back' yellow message to announce it for all to witness your prowess?
Go vulch some fields with Joe and be happy.
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And your squadron is actively recruiting? God, with team players like you two, I would have assumed your roster would be loaded to the gills!
Nice elitest attitude, by the way. (Only the 50 cal guys spray and pray, we Luftwaffes only fire precision, surgically placed bullets :rolleyes: )
I think I know why Joe is Whining about people following him around to steal his kills. They know it pisses him off, so they do it on purpose. After reading this thread, I know I would, right after I squelched him.
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Lol, this has turned into a runaway thread. I am not gonna reply to this anymore, and I just want to restate what i originally said:
-If you get Check 6'ed by me many times you know why
-Please dont steal kills from me
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BTW the reason I am posting this isn't about my K/D, Score, or rank. Check my stat's trust me, i am not score hounding. After chasing a enemy down from 30k, and after 5-10 mins of fighting, i would like to get the kill. It is also beacuse "JoeCJG2" is a new account, and i have no perks. My squad flys 262's ocasionally, and i like to fly with them. With no perks, i have to miss out on the fun.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
-Please dont steal kills from me
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BTW the reason I am posting this isn't about my K/D, Score, or rank. Check my stat's trust me, i am not score hounding. After chasing a enemy down from 30k, and after 5-10 mins of fighting, i would like to get the kill. It is also beacuse "JoeCJG2" is a new account, and i have no perks. My squad flys 262's ocasionally, and i like to fly with them. With no perks, i have to miss out on the fun.
I think if you would have originally posted the above, you would have met with alot less animosity, and and more understanding.
After reading this, NOW, I see why getting the kill is so important to you. It makes sense, and if I were in the position stated above, I would feel the same way you do. (without the 1000 check 6 calls to get even)
You want to earn perks? Just come looking for me. I hand 'em out by the boatload.
Good luck getting your perk ride !
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Joe, you're after perk points but...
1) Wasting time chasing friendlies around with some weird check6 vendetta.
2) Climbing to 30k to dogfight(?).
Man, no wonder you're frustrated.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
Here is my "policy" with the 6 calls. If you kill steal from me, i will give you at least 100 Check 6 calls.
I pity the poor newbie who somehow offends your arrogant bellybutton and doesn't know the squelch command.
You should be banned for that kind of crap.
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You should be banned for that kind of crap.
And nothing should happen to the kill stealers? Your only looking at one side.
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I vulch plenty believe me.
I learned to deack the large fields just to vulch.
I am not talking about a kill messages I talking about pos 50 cal pilots who do nothing but spray and pray from up to 1k back. Who cant get any kill except steal from others. I squelch kill messages when i am in game I could careless if they are there or not.
I have advocated on numerous times to come up with away to turn the kill msgs off on the host side in the ct. I would be fine with it in the main as well. That still doesnt stop some no skilled spray and prayer.
I didnt say I was one to go out and make a thing off it. I am just telling you my opinion. If joe or anyone decides 100 check 6s for akill steal is worth it well go for it. I mostly ignore umm. But for the most part hes right it happens alot.
Its always the same type of folk doing it.
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I'll try squelching 6, seems like a good solution to this
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
Lol, this thread has turned against me. I am not gonna reply to this anymore, and I just want to restate what i originally said:
-Woe is me everybody steals my kills, I’m going to throw a tantrum online
-HTC I need a “got dibs” button
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BTW the reason I am posting this isn't about my K/D, Score, or rank. Check my stat's trust me, i am not score hounding. After chasing a enemy down from 30k, and after 5-10 mins of fighting, i would like to get the kill. I mean after all I followed him all the way down to the deck I deserve the kill. It is also beacuse "JoeCJG2" is a new account, and i have no perks. My squad flys 262's ocasionally, and i like to fly with them. With no perks, i have to miss out on the fun.
It’s a good thing your gonna stop responding, this is getting tiresome. I’m also glad you agree with me that 106 kills stolen seems like an exorbitant amount and were probably embellishing just a little.
So the whole post comes down to a whine about not having enough perk points? Gotcha!
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I lied :) I am gonna relpy. that 106 figure i posted isnt a exguration. I still say about 1/3 of my kills are stolen, and i am gonna hold to that.
Does it all come down to perk points? Kinda. I say this beacuse :
"after 5-10 mins of fighting, i would like to get the kill. I mean after all I followed him all the way down to the deck I deserve the kill. "
Trust me Zippatuh, you are the least of my worries. You stole one kill from me, it's not the end of the world. As i said before, there are a few Usuall Suspects who repeadly kill steal from me.
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Originally posted by Wotan
Some off us only fly ah to get kills. We are not part of "your team" or care anything about strat etc.... We engage and either get killed or kill then move on to the next one. I dont think its too much to ask of anyone to simply not kill steal.
Both those that steal kills (e.g. waste E and ammo to shoot at something that is already dead)
and
those that complain about kill stealing (because their only goal is getting kills and they don't care for their country)
should be send into exile. Somewhere where all don't care about anything else but kills. Something like Quake before CTF was invented. Called DA in AH i think.
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oh lord....relax.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
And nothing should happen to the kill stealers? Your only looking at one side.
Oh Geez, JoeCrip. Lighten up dude! It's just a game. What are you trying to be? Have they committed a crime? Where you wanna go with this?
I will tell you where you might end up. You will be on a squelch list for many of the players (which you are asking everyone btw). When and if HTC comes up with a permanent squelch feature, no one will hear you at all and your existence will be forgotten. (kinda over doing it here but certainly your fun in this game will be halved if most of the people ignores you.) This I think is more detrimental to yourself and the community in the long run.
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Joe mapping the check 6 key to his joystick trigger, saddling up behind his countrymen and letting them have a lethal burst of check 6 calls is some exceedingly funny toejam. I don't want this entertainment to end. Can you explain again why exactly you are giving your countrymen check 6 calls again?
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Those damn mariggggguuuanna smoken' drugaddicts stole mine kill!!! :mad:
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Originally posted by Animal
Those damn mariggggguuuanna smoken' drugaddicts stole mine kill!!! :mad:
LOL!!!:rolleyes:
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Well, Joe, seems like the only thing accomplished here was painting a big bullseye on your back. The "Check Six" wav can be neutralized, and white text isn't that bothersome, so what is going to keep people from chasing you around now?
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Hiyas Joe:)
This is a great thread....what a great idea sending those 6 calls...you're devious:)
The reason HT won't get rid of killshooter and replace it with PNG, is he knows that I would shoot folks down too often...but then again, he used to do the same back in awdos:)
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Joe,
I'm new and can care less about your pathetic prophecy. I just want to bring your prettythang to my group's paintball games. I'll give you a new meaning to words "Dutch Boy.
I wouldn't talk to you anyway, so squelch me, please. Loser. Type A personality, nothing better to do but hover at 30,000ft and cherry pick to begin with. Shoot for the AH Altitude record you ignorant imbecile!!! Your teammates will be proud to not have you fighting with them.
Jay
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No such thing as a "Kill Steal"
Why not whine at the dweeb enemy who refused to bail?
OTOH I have ignored planes smoking and heading for terra firma only to find them on my 6 a minute later.....Being "Mr. Nice Guy" can get you killed!
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Preach to me, Midnight Target!!!! Preach it!!!! Happened to me once, not again.
Jay
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well if you've shot off there rudder and htere heading to the ground rather than letting them die come along and shoot them before someone else does. and who's calling people who refuse to bail dweebs. after a HO and your both going down its a game of chicken to see who gets the kill whoever bails first loses then just just leap out yourself and float gently to the ground with a kill on your hands. and if thats not the case and there flying to the ground and they dont eject then thats because they hope you'll get shot down by the person who is "kill stealing" ha that term doesnt even really exist if a person goes in a takes them out while you try to kill them then its there kill but after youve got your enemy dieing then yes they are sorta kill stealing more like taking advantagge of a good situation but then if your still around while there heading after you can fall in behind and BLOW THEM TO SMITHEREENS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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:mad: My Daddy went and stoled my kill one time. He aint around to talk bout it no more!!!:mad: Let this serve as a warning!:mad: :mad:
iF IT'S THE LAST THING i DO, I'LL GIT YOU STEAL :mad: KILLLLEEERRRSSS!~!)!)!:mad: :mad:
(:mad: I'm REAL mad!:mad: )
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I'm impressed Commander Bishop. I'm glad you put all of those Smilies all over your post. Do you have a job or anyhting else Commandant? Where's Colonel Klink?
Jay
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So Wotan brings out his 3 foot wide paint brush and states...
Originally posted by Wotan
Every allied pilot fires from up to d 1k and can afford to hold the trigger fer a 1 sec or 2. If a 109 pilot does this he rtbs every few minutes. Same for yaks.
Woa...
I've seen just as many 109 and 190 drivers steal kills, sure they have to get closer but then they have a better view of a plane that's dead already!
:rolleyes:
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lol mrlars send their names to the local gestapo head quarters they may be able to help ya :)
but seriously things have changed. Folks talk about "community" but its a fraud. There isnt one. Theres a bunch of folks just trying to "get over" on each other. A lot has to do with the "aw" attitude that a lot of folks brought with them.
In previous times when folks "kill stole" it was rare and a quick channel 1 message was enough to keep um in check. Now you get dweebs so desperate that they will actually auger chasing a dead plane to the deck.
Let me tell ya a story why it pisses me off.
I was at 16k in a 109g6 and a 18 19k la7 came diving in. As he approached I went vert. The la7 must have lost site of me because instead of grabbing himself he went into a flat turn. I easily got onto his 6 but he dove away using his speed to escape. Np here.
He then gets on channel 1 talking smack how I am no good and I could never kill him blah blah blah. I grab head back to where i was going get 4 kills then rtb.
I up again the la7s is above me again this time he comes screaming in a I barrel roll and get 1 30mm hit on him. His tail flies off. Hes at 17k it will take him about 1 min to hit the deck. Several friendlies come in and see he is obviously not in controled flight.
I type to them la7 is ded, then call the 2 chasing him by name
xxx and xxx that la7 is ded. well they chase him all the way down and blow him up. Then the other guy chasing the la7 (one who didnt get the kill) types "good kill".......lol
The guy who got the kill tells me I oughta learn to shoot better....
Now in the 30 min since I began my first sortie I gotta hear toejame from some no good pos la7 dweeb whom I then kill. Then guys on my own side give me toejam and steal my kill.
If folks show me no respect then hell 100 check 6 calls everytime I see may umm be a good idea. Why should I give them anything but the same they give me. This is just 1 instance. I have numerous kill steals all in the same sortie. It aint about score or rank its about mutual respect.
Its not just limited to killstealing. Rarely do you get a check 6, or does anyone clear 6. You get a bunch loudmouth generals on channel 2 screaming follow me to victory. That and the spray and praying its become rediculous.
As bad as the wwiiol community was on the old message board over there the AH ingame community is almost as bad.
If joe or anyone else finds satisfaction in giving a little back well its no worse then what they got to begin with.
Mostly I just log when things get too rediculous.
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You are missing the point wotan.
You killed that guy.
After you shot his tail off, who cares what happens. Who cares if a whole squad of idiots chase him down so fast their wings break
off. Some idiot gives you toejam on the radio buffer, does it hit you so hard in your fragile sensitive heart?
If you deperately need recognition, an online game is not the best place to look for it.
You won the fight, and that is all there is to it.
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It is just incredible how some folks have never made an error in judging the airworthiness of a damaged enemy.
As far as the "aw" attitude, I saw a great deal of chivalrous behavior in "aw" and I never ever heard much about stealing kills. Why? Because the effort was against the enemy, and a dead enemy was a good thing.
If a countryman is saddled up 1 on 1, I will always go help, and I am not trying to steal chit. It is very easy to loose duece an opponent with very little communication between the wingies. Even can be done when one wingie doesn't know he is a wingie.:)
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Originally posted by Sikboy
I've done this in the hellcat too... You pump a bunch of .50s into a guy, but don't want to kill your e so you break off. Later, you get the kill (you earned it after all). And the guy who "thought" he should get the kill assumes that you riddled the corpse. It's pretty funny.
-Sikboy
So, in order to steal a kill, I assume that the stealer would have to pump more damage into a plane than the guy that knocked off the tail or somehow otherwise rendered the victim's plane unworkable?
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ROTFALMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Man if this isn't some of the funniest stuff I've read on this BBS!!!
Certainly gets my vote for Whine Of the Month! :)
AKEagle+
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Originally posted by gofaster
So, in order to steal a kill, I assume that the stealer would have to pump more damage into a plane than the guy that knocked off the tail or somehow otherwise rendered the victim's plane unworkable?
nono, you have it backwards. I fly away, and don't fully EXPECT to get the kill. But some other guy swoops down, and blows a wing off of this plane. When it crashes, and he doesn't get the kill (because, although he took a wing off, my .50s did more aggragate damage). When he sees "L33TD33b shot down" followed by "Victory 1 By Sikboy of the Shillelagh Squadron" He puts 2 and 2 together and deceides that I swooped down and shot the wingless plane as it was falling. There was no Kill Stealing at all in this scenario, just the appearence of kill stealing.
[edit] But yes, that's the theory behind kill stealing. Add more lead to the target than the guy who took off a limb did.
-Sikboy
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>>To be honest, yes. As I said above. Out of every 3 times i shoot off a planes tail, my kill we be stolen AT LEAST once. Get's kinda annyoying after a while<<
Ahhh the game is full of all types.
I thought this thread was gonna be about the lack of check 6 calls. But I see it's about way too many as a means of revenge; I like it :D
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Hehe. reminds me of a night I was up in the MA and was flying around an island by myself. I saw some low level dots and didnt know if they were nme or not. I flew over there and saw several nme and several countrymen. I helped out on one of the nmez and got a thank you. I shot down an nme fiter and got a wtg. Then one of the guys in the group called out over voice channel: 'okay, there he goes, this one's mine guys". I said to myself: "Oh is it? And wondered who this guy was who gets to claim his prey? and in the MA at that?
Point is, it just isn't so. Pilits will dive down outta the virtual heavens even if he sees you workin over an nme with superior skill, just to take the kill. It makes me angry, especially when I worked the guy into a helpless state. Then there are the sloppy seconds dweebs who, if they didnt take their chance and shoot at a carcass, they might end their time online with nothing to show for it. A shameless act of desperation to be sure :)
I recommend just pick a different part of the arena to fight in; if not, the type will remain and do it again.
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Originally posted by Wotan
lol mrlars send their names to the local gestapo head quarters they may be able to help ya :)
hehehe...WTG Wotan...was a toung in cheek reply to your post and you took it that way :D
In the past few months, after having many, many kills stolen I've changed my style a bit. When I see a vital part fall off my target instead of pulling up and searching for the next target I shoot and shoot and shoot untill he pops, even then I've had someone pull infront of me and force me to kill myself...what can ya do though? Way I look at it is it's just a game and lots of people in it are horses tulips :D There are too many things IRL that deserve my anger so much more :cool:
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Ya got some real mature flyers in that new JG2.
Salute!!
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the whole thread is tongue in cheek. you see any one here who actually got the 100 check 6 calls?
Even with all the killstealling........:rolleyes:
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I give Lance the award for making me laugh hard right out loud though!
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Don't be surprised if the people you are going in to meet the enemy with turn and leave once you engage
Once you are dead, they won't be stealing your kills.
G'luck
Kanthy
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Sikboy - I see what you are saying, and never realized until now what you had said. I'm new and have 3 or 4 kills. I was able to pump some rounds into the nose of the P-51 and it was smoking. I was the last plane on the "prong" of attack (farthest forward) and had to break for fuel reasons. I had pretty much forgotten about this until yesterday. It went into a spin, and (I have to give credit to this guy/gal), they pulled it out of a spin.
Now, if I am reading you right, you are basically saying that if say...you were to pump some lead into it and it goes down, it is still my kill? I'm serious about this, I hope I am understanding what are saying. Let me know.
Jay
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I did get credit for the kill Sik, I was using that as an example though, thanks in adavnce, man.
Jay
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Actually yes Wotan... well perhaps not in the thread, but just before this thread was posted a fellow knit (good player) had this done to him by Joe...
SKurj
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I wonder if Joe realizes that I will now endeavor to steal every single kill he "earns" right after I make sure to squelch him. I would not have done so before his moronic tirade.
The payback for the effort expended is even better than shooting chutes. Impossible to pass up.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I wonder if Joe realizes that I will now endeavor to steal every single kill he "earns" right after I make sure to squelch him. I would not have done so before his moronic tirade.
The payback for the effort expended is even better than shooting chutes. Impossible to pass up.
-- Todd/Leviathn
How are you gonna steal his kills if you are flying for a different country? Perhaps we will see a new "ace" killshoot himself to death against every one of Joes victories in the future? In some futile attempt to steal the kills from a pilot in another country.
moron
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Originally posted by Hortlund
How are you gonna steal his kills if you are flying for a different country? Perhaps we will see a new "ace" killshoot himself to death against every one of Joes victories in the future? In some futile attempt to steal the kills from a pilot in another country.
Uhhh... well, let's see... I could just change countries so that I'm not flying for a different one.
Ask a stupid question...
-- Todd/Leviathn
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LMFAO and ROTFG!!!!!!
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Simply a case of someone's definition of a "kill" not matching the game's definition of a "kill".
Nothing was stolen joe. Next time do more damage or tollerate the fact that someone else could easily do more.
AKDejaVu
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still LMFAO!!!
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BTW Joe.. I wonder how much you'd like it if everyone that didn't agree with you in this post just "check 6"d you every time they saw you... I mean... you've already established that its a valid way of disagreeing with someone.
My money says you wouldn't like it much at all... though I doubt you really understand how that would pertain to your initial post.
AKDejaVu
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Just shoot 'em till they 'splode. It's hard to steal a kill when there's nothing left but a fireball and some floating pieces. :)
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I'm sure there is some possible way to "steal" a kill when there is a nice debris cloud, Funkedup. The excuse is out there somewhere.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Uhhh... well, let's see... I could just change countries so that I'm not flying for a different one.
Ask a stupid question...
-- Todd/Leviathn
Well, if you're gonna switch to knits I have a better idea.
You could always bore him to death with endless ramblings about Brahms on ch2 ...perhaps you could bring that other "connoisseur" too.
You two should have no problem emptying the arena with your moronic tirades.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Well, if you're gonna switch to knits I have a better idea.
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This is a better idea? I'd hate to see one of your bad ideas.
You could always bore him to death with endless ramblings about Brahms on ch2 ...perhaps you could bring that other "connoisseur" too.
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Can't let it go, can you? I don't recall ever discussing Brahms in the game itself. Actually, I don't really recall making "endless ramblings" about him anywhere beyond possibly mentioning a couple of pieces.
You two should have no problem emptying the arena with your moronic tirades.
Like I've surely done many times before. You know, this ground has been tread before, and it's very, very stale. I'd advise you take your stinkbait somewhere else.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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97...
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98...
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And...
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100 - it's official, you're a tool :D
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nope, only 96 :)
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My money says you wouldn't like it much at all
Well, you'd loose your money then. All i would do is squelch them.
When i first started this check 6 thing, i though the same thing. "This will never work, the killstealer will just squelch me."
But to my suprise i saw thing's in the MA like
"Joe is check 6 attacker"
"JoeC and his 6 calls driving me crazy"
These were not newbie's and, both of those statment's were made by people with 1+ years of AH.
So, i guess the Check 6 thing is working.
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screw all this crap..
steal any of my kills you want. I usually try to 'splode them anyway
just don't shoot over my shoulder!!!
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I alway's try to explode them if i can, but with 1x20mm, and 2x7mm on the 109 G2, it isnt that easy, and waste's ammo,
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
I alway's try to explode them if i can, but with 1x20mm, and 2x7mm on the 109 G2, it isnt that easy, and waste's ammo,
The real key to leaving few leftovers is to fire as close in as you possibly can. Wait until you can see the whites of his eyes, then get in even closer. * I guarantee that you'll have few if any kills stolen using that rule of thumb.
-- Todd/Leviathn
* Not advisable in 262s when going 550mph
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Those 7.9 mm are just for scaring them.
Hold down that 20 mm button and they will explode if you get close. :)
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i have found a purpose in AH , follow joe around and steal all his kills, does he really count all 100 ck 6's? "78,79,80"?
but seriously folks, some times its not stealing, last night i was turn fighting a lone niki with some friendlys, i made a pass on the niki he turned , i went vert, lost sight, when i came over the loop niki was right in front of me about 300yds, saw NO smoke, i opened fire, niki exploded, .....then i get told niki had lost part of his tail and was going down and i was a kill stealer, i really had no time to ck to see if all the parts were still on the niki before i fired, he looked like he was still flying...........anyway i talked over with the offended party and i think he understood.
44MAG
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Can't believe this thread made it onto 3 pages, I didn't read the second page, did I miss anything.
I sort of agree with you Joe and would take it a step further. Have you ever be on a cons butt, d200 or less, firing away and had a dweeber overfly you to get your "almost" kill, and been killed yourself when your shots hit 'el dweebo'. Personally if I see someone laying lead into a con I'll pull in on his wing until he either blasts the sucker, runs outta ammo or for some reason looses sight then position on the con. I have also followed hit cons down to the deck (not firing on them) to make sure they don't pull out of the dive at the last second and head for home.
But all that said, is it really worth going through the trouble to hit him with a 100 6 calls? It maybe better to simply alert your country that a new kill stealer has joined the ranks and later pay him back if you get the opportunity. my $.02 worth.
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ALOT OF THESE are very valid points i do agree it pisses me off to no end to se some one follow a falling plane down shoot it up and take my kill!!!!
But that's when you tell that person - via country comm channel or range channel that the enmy con is dead / and or that toejamty to steal / try and steal kills.
magg44 made a good point in close combat situations sumetimes its hard to know whats going on but none the less better a dead enmy con than one still flyin.
lol in every instance we all need to work as a team and there will always be newbies around so its best to politely inform the of there wrong ways! and if that dont work steal there kills follow them around......use the ".wingman 'id'" function and see where that bastards At to make your point!
lol ok im done i hope this squeak of the week makes it to 10 pages
-my$2 dollars worth........
box
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Quit yer whinin joe.That whole kill stealin crap goes both ways and sometimes it happens and you dont mean for it to happen.Sounds like you are nothing but a luftwabble dweeb Statbuilder.Get a life or go play everquest or something.
.squelch joecrip
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Well, if you're gonna switch to knits I have a better idea.
You could always bore him to death with endless ramblings about Brahms on ch2 ...perhaps you could bring that other "connoisseur" too.
You two should have no problem emptying the arena with your moronic tirades.
rolf, very true. I'd say that 99% of AH community aren't conditioned enough culturally to understand the absolute music. ^6^ You being one of 'em.
It's similar to how there's so little real competition in AH--people don't really have the ability to comprehend. :( Again, you pass.
Btw Lev, I'm going to Carnegie Hall tomorrow night, Brahms, Mozart, and Schubert. $10 rush ticket's ownz j00!
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(http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/shots/bug_1.jpg)
(http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/shots/bug_2.jpg)
(http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/shots/bug_3.jpg)
Where are your manners?
-Mitsu
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Mitsu:
Email those pics to Pyro.
This retard will stop his childish crap pretty soon.
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Mitsu: Dont killsteal
Where are your manners?
Where are yours kill stealer?
I remember that sortie now. Me and soviet were flying's 190a5's together. The map was ND-Isles if I am not mistaken. You happen to be flying d3.0 away from me. A spit fire comes in, me, you and soviet engage. I end up shooting off the tail, then you and your Ki-61 kill-steal, Wonderfull!.
Are you that worried about your score? :rolleyes:
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Judging by the ammo counters, those 3 pics are from 3 different occations.
Isnt that weird?
[edited for clarity]
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I am 99% sure that was all one sortie, but i know Mitsu has been in AH for a long time. Why are you still stealing kills? : oh yea, your a score hound.
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Originally posted by Nath[BDP]
rolf, very true. I'd say that 99% of AH community aren't conditioned enough culturally to understand the absolute music. ^6^ You being one of 'em.
It's similar to how there's so little real competition in AH--people don't really have the ability to comprehend. :( Again, you pass.
Btw Lev, I'm going to Carnegie Hall tomorrow night, Brahms, Mozart, and Schubert. $10 rush ticket's ownz j00!
Look pal, I'm not gonna get into a pissing contest with you over who knows more about classical music. IMO that is about as silly as it can get on a BBS (with the possible exeption of posting pictures of girlfriends to brag). Frankly I'd much rather hit myself in the head repeatedly with a hammer.
Relax, some day you will realize that you dont have to prove anything to us here on this BBS. Most people seem to agree that you are a good stick, why not just leave it at that? Do you have to try to prove that you are oh-so-much-more than just a good stick, you are also a classical connoisseur, and generally a deep thoughtful and intelligent guy?
I have run into guys like you in other forums like this, and generally it is not overly difficult to see through the image you want to show.
A good rule of thumb is that generally it is the people most eager to post how good they are that have some serious self-confidence issues. I mean, if you are so sure that you are THE connoisseur, warrior-poet, ace...why not just sit back and enjoy the knowledge of that?
So, relax, enjoy your classical concerts, and drop the attitude.
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ahhh geez, I can almost see an announcement coming from HTC now... "We regret to announce the termination of the Check-6 feature due to unintended usage of it by certain players"...
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i see one too "We regert to announce that we will be removing the feature to kill another plane, due to kill stealing" lol
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JoeCrip, please, this is no joke... please find other means to express your frustrations.
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"The Rules of war according to JoeCrip"
I.E.: Joe shoots an opposing enemy soldier in combat. The enemy soldier is faltering and is slowly going down, but still able to fire back. The person next to him (Joe) give the enemy a nice head shot. What happens next is a brawl because Joe is supposed to kill him. This is exactly what you are saying, you whiner. You wouldn't last a second in a REAL WAR . You are a disgrace to the REAL LUFTWAFFE. The way you talk Joe, you were in the blitzkreig of Poland, the Russian Front, in Italy and the defense of Berlin.
You need a life!
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In real war, when an enemy was shot down, 20 of his friendly's didnt dive down after him.
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Please never let this thread die.
Never since TheWobble used to roam the boards has a person made such a fool of himself as Joe has here.
Lets make the most out of this experience.
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Animal,
I could really care less what you say. You are just some guy behind a computer, that's all. We will never meet in real life. On my list of problems..well...you didnt even make that list. I am not taking any of this personally. Go ahead, I invite you, say more about the subject/me. The more you say, the less i care.
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If you dont care, why is this thread 100+, and if you dont care, why do you care to post about your retaliatory behaviour. Its a BBS. The very nature of this thread was to read what people think of your stupidity, not to warn them about it.
:cool:
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
I remember that sortie now. Me and soviet were flying's 190a5's together. The map was ND-Isles if I am not mistaken. You happen to be flying d3.0 away from me. A spit fire comes in, me, you and soviet engage. I end up shooting off the tail, then you and your Ki-61 kill-steal, Wonderfull!.
Ya right dude...(credit for the below to AKEagle+)
I quote this from the AH Stats page on a pilot named JoeCJG2
This is from the list kills in, top 12 planes for kills in thus far, for tour 27:
Spitfire Mk IX 57
SeaFire 40
Bf 110G-2 35
Bf 109G-2 34
Fw 190D-9 27
Ostwind 21
F6F-5 21
Bf 109F-4 16
La-7 15
Fw 190A-8 12
Bf 109G-10 10
F4U-1C 10
Man no wonder you are so pissed; I guess all your A-5 "kills" got "stolen"...LOL...
Fricken sub-dweeb, what the hell have you ever done for AH? Besides piss, moan and harrass people in the MA, that is. You went into quite a little temper tantrum on me a while back after I popped your sorry butt from a CV turret. Recently you had another tantrum in the CT forum. You are lucky I don't work for HTC; I would have wacked you with the ban stick a while ago.
Hey JG2, is this the type of person you are recruiting for your squad? Think about it...
Whereas Mitsu has done a great deal of work for the community, and oh by the way he is a great stick. Jealous of something you'll never be Joecrip?
:rolleyes:
-Smut
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BS !!!!!!!!
I want....... eh,
BS!!!!!
I think ..............:confused:
No No No, I wanted to add something, but forgot what it was.....
Maybe tomorrow :confused:
:D
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LMFAO!!!!! :eek: :p :eek: :p
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Masherbrum
You need a life!
This from the guy who wanted to "bring your prettythang to my group's paintball games"
You have no idea how unintentionally funny you are do you?
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Keep sticking up for your own Hortland. I'm glad I'm in a great squad with NO WHINERS!!!!!! I'm only a two-weeker as well, and WILL BE subscribing, Mr. Desktop General!
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Joecrip, that really is some childish behavior laying on the check six button like that. I hope you come to your senses soon.
I put people who cry constantly about getting their kills stolen in the same category as people who think it's their countrymens responsibilty to call or keep their 6 cleared. You just don't get it.
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Originally posted by hblair
I put people who cry constantly about getting their kills stolen in the same category as people who think it's their countrymens responsibilty to call or keep their 6 cleared. You just don't get it.
And just like people who whine about shooting chutes or not calling their six, whining about kill stealing makes me want to do it more, not less.
I can squelch Joe so I don't see his Check 6 calls. Can he stop me from stealing his kills?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Dead man, is "Chute Shooting" a term? LMAO!!!
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Mashbroom, take your ridlin.
:)
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AH! The reincarnation of Flying Duck Sitting Swan.
Welcome back. We missed you! (not really)
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I applaude your squad loyalty Hortlund. You probably were a very good attorney for the guilty too.:D
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>You are a disgrace to the REAL LUFTWAFFE
Is it possible to disgrace and organization dedicated to the protection of a bunch of scum sucking nazis? Say it aint so Joe, say it aint so...
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Look pal, I'm not gonna get into a pissing contest with you over who knows more about classical music. IMO that is about as silly as it can get on a BBS (with the possible exeption of posting pictures of girlfriends to brag). Frankly I'd much rather hit myself in the head repeatedly with a hammer.
Relax, some day you will realize that you dont have to prove anything to us here on this BBS. Most people seem to agree that you are a good stick, why not just leave it at that? Do you have to try to prove that you are oh-so-much-more than just a good stick, you are also a classical connoisseur, and generally a deep thoughtful and intelligent guy?
I have run into guys like you in other forums like this, and generally it is not overly difficult to see through the image you want to show.
A good rule of thumb is that generally it is the people most eager to post how good they are that have some serious self-confidence issues. I mean, if you are so sure that you are THE connoisseur, warrior-poet, ace...why not just sit back and enjoy the knowledge of that?
So, relax, enjoy your classical concerts, and drop the attitude.
Hmm, you must be seeing double again. You responded to a post of mine that doesn't exist--where I apparently bragged about how much I know about Classical Music... what I bragged about was how little people appreciate classical music, specifically in AH. Which is sad, and it's not just true of AH.
This BBS wouldn't exist if people didn't try to prove something else to other people--something you are doing to this very moment. Please rethink your flames before posting them, cause they need work.
It is also easy to see through the images of the BBS warriors who make it their life to post on the boards as opposed to playing the game it's a extension of. I have seen far too many of them over the years.
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ROTFALMAO! :D
This tread is still going strong.
Lets see, this whine was started by a guy complaining the 1 out of 3 kills of his were stolen. His stats only give him a 3.5 to 1 Kill to Assist ratio. That means that even if EVERY assist he got was stolen, he still couldn't have 1 out of 3 kills stolen.
This whole whine lacks any credibility.
He claims to fly at 30K with LW iron, then we corner him to admit that he flys a lot of Spits in base defense furballs. Real LuftWhiners are e fighters (if they aren't they are just targets! LOL), not TNB Spit Dweebs! :) Anyone been in a base defense furball besides me? Those are root-hog or die no holds barred barroom brawls! Great stuff! But NO ONE flys in that stuff without "having kills stolen" Nothing like someone in a 4 on 1 gang bang self righteously claiming it was "MY Kill". :rolleyes:
Who knows? Someday I may see you in the arena Joe. Maybe I'll accidentally "steal your kill" or maybe you will just think I did. Then you can fly around doing a check 6 on me! ROTFL! :) Bet I crash my plane from laughing so hard! (like I care about crashing or losing a kill! LOL! My stats suck and I know it! But my fun meter is often pegged! :) And you are in a squad? I wonder what your squad thinks about such behavior??? Not that it matters, each squad sets it's own standards for it's members, but how you act says a lot about your squad.
Do you really think that I let such juvenile behavior bother me???? Anyone knows that if you fly in a MMA you are going to run into all types. I spend time with the ones I like, AK and non-AK alike. But I don't let the others live rent free in my head :)
This may not be the whine of the week, but it sure is funny :D
AKEagle+
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Two things
1) Smut, you have no idea what you are talking about. Look at those pictures, my squad is JG51, they were taken in december.
2) For reasons which i will not say, I am stopping the check 6 thing.
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The classical music sub plot is a nice touch.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
2) For reasons which i will not say, I am stopping the check 6 thing.
Oh my... can this thread get any BETTER? :D
This is the best we've had on the board in quite a while.
My face aches from smiling, my ribs hurt from laughing so hard. So many good contributors, so many to thank.
Keep it going guys...... please don't stop!
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No one made me stop, it was my own choice. I can and will start doing this again if i feel the need.
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Without bothering to read this entire silly thread, I will say that if you blatantly abuse things like the check six call to grief other players, you will be unwelcome to continue playing.