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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mrsid2 on April 21, 2002, 03:58:32 AM

Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: mrsid2 on April 21, 2002, 03:58:32 AM
Maybe CT would have more fun with its 15-20 players. If not I'll cancel my sub and play h2h only from now on.

I'm tired to see this every time I log on for months. Not always that bad, still at least 20% against us in numbers always.

(http://users.kymp.net/cable130/balance.jpg)

Well at least things even up after the reset because winners log off and losers come back online.. right?

Certainly looks that way.. NOT.

(http://users.kymp.net/cable130/balance2.jpg)
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: qts on April 21, 2002, 08:05:02 AM
The country with the most players rotates quite frequently. And don't forget that for every ace like Fariz or Hangtime or DJ111 there are a dozen like me who can barely shoot straight. It's quality, not quantity that counts.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: SKurj on April 21, 2002, 10:27:58 AM
you would cancel your subscription rather than change sides....??

makes no sense at all....  u don't have to go to the largest side, go to the middle team, and swear to never hit the little guy +)


SKurj
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: MANDOBLE on April 21, 2002, 11:37:31 AM
mrsid2, these ratios are not new, we have been massively outnumbered for the entire last months, perhaps even the entire year. As far as we have 3 countries that situation will keep unchanged.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: gofaster on April 22, 2002, 12:52:14 PM
How about changing the name from "Rooke" to something a little more masculine?  It might be incentive enough for some players to stick to that side.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: Don on April 22, 2002, 02:32:19 PM
>>How about changing the name from "Rooke" to something a little more masculine? It might be incentive enough for some players to stick to that side.<<

Yer kidding aren't you? :confused:
Please say yer kidding so I don't have to go running from this place screaming my head off: Beam me up Scotty!!!:p
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: Furious on April 22, 2002, 05:08:40 PM
I don't want to seem harsh here, but...

It might be that folks don't fly rook because of all the whining.

This might be true for two reasons.

1.  Who wants to be associated with whiners.

or the more likely

2.  Its a self-fullfilling profecy.  If you say its sucks to be rook enough, everyone will begin to agree and chose another side.


F.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: fffreeze220 on April 22, 2002, 06:23:29 PM
MA SUX like hell and i guess i am not the only 1 how is tht opinion.
I cant under stand why all people want more Plane planes planes planes planes. Instead of some new and BIGGER maps that would bring little bit more fun in the game. What can we do with a Havoc ? NOTHING only to ping it down. ANd that is like with a Ju88 BOOOOORING.
SO BRING MORE AND BIGGER MAPS IN THIS GAME INSTEAD OF NEW PLANES NEW PLANES NEW PLANES.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: Oosik on April 22, 2002, 10:26:12 PM
Nice to know that my squadie "CAMEL" is getting his bellybutton suck :)
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: mrsid2 on April 22, 2002, 10:33:18 PM
Furious that's not true.

The whining started only after rooks had low numbers for weeks in a row. Now it's already months.

Having to fight a doublesized enemy every day means that you won't be able to get a feeling of success from the game.

It means that even if you do find a good fight 1:1 it's more than likely going to be aborted by an enemy n1k on your tail, sometimes after 10 minutes of hard acm 1:1.

It means reset practically every day with you being the losing country..

It means your field choices are limited every day and sometimes also the dar is porked which sucks the most.

It means fariz will create missions with as many attackers as your whole country has fighters. Because people tend to be engaged in fights it means the mission will initially meet an empty field and then vulch 20:3 odds the couple defenders that abort their other fights and try to stop the mission even that they know it's going to be a one way ride.

It simply means the gameplay sucks with such an unfair balance.

Strat people keep saying: how are you going to capture fields 3vs3 etc? Well it's darn thing how rooks keep doing that all the time. We capture fields like nuts when odds are 1:1. We capture fields even with 2:1 odds, that usually only means we lose fields on another front while we capture on the other.

What people seem to have forgot here is that 1:1 odds you a) are going to need skill to overcome your enemy, not only numbers

b) both sides have a fair chance of winning, skill being the decisive factor
c) there's no shortage of enemies for either side

I'm seriously considering of quitting MA totally because I'm so frustrated to fight doomed fights over and over again.

I used to fly and try to return alive, now I don't bother anymore.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: Urchin on April 22, 2002, 11:14:30 PM
Rooks may be down now, but there is no way they've been down the most for an entire year.  I remember Knights had a couple months in the barrel a few months after I first started playing, which is why I switched to Knights.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: mrsid2 on April 23, 2002, 08:13:02 AM
Urchin I have screenshots taken during at least 3 months with either nits or bish having 2:1 advantage compared to rooks. Screenshots that were not momentarily situation but constant. I know well that 5 hours later when I'm at sleep the big rook squads come online and then the situation is evened up..

But at my timezone this rook mobbing has continued for literally months.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: LePaul on April 23, 2002, 12:31:16 PM
Well, I'll give Rude some fodder here  ;)

I rotated to rooks to try to help them out.  Met up with a few good guys...kbman, Slimpkin and a few others, and got invited to join their squad...flying tigers.  I've had a few good nights flying with them, but hadn't seem them the last few times I was on...and I've been offline at home for a week now since the move.

What I've noticed is that the Rooks, while not all, live the "Its my $14.95 and I'm gonna do what I want" philosophy to the max.  I havent seen a mission planned since rotating to them and even when a solid trail of red dots shows a massive invasion inbound, many are content attacking the other side...THEN complaining their fields are up in smoke.  

I've done my part to try to help em...even had one of my Me262s get blown outta the sky trying to help stop the incoming marauders  ;)

What can *really* be done....not much.  There is no *profile* of what a Rook player is.  I just do not see the cohesion, so far, on that side as I have others.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: zipity on April 23, 2002, 12:42:50 PM
Maybe HTC should think about changing then names every few months.  I mean does it really matter which team your playing for as long as your having fun?  And if you're not having fun why insist on being a rook just because you've always been a rook.   From what I've seen there are really nice folks and a few real dinks on each team, so what difference does it make.  Get to know some new folks and go back to having fun.

(caution attempt at humor coming, no flames please)

Given what I've read above, how about changing the rooks to the pawns, the knights to the queens and the ever royal bishops to the kings. :) :)   (note the double smiley faces)

Seriously, I like to fly where my squad mates fly and if they decided to join a team called the queens, being married with 3 kids my and secure in my masculinity, I'd switch in a second.
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: Kirin on April 23, 2002, 06:44:56 PM
9./JG54 has switched to Rooks recently for the apparent reasons...

After flying under rook colours for a couple of days now the two sided gang-banging is more than obvious. What puzzles me is the fact that the second "winning" country (always still 2:1 numberwise) is still milkrunning alongside (*) the country with the most bases instead of attacking it. The result is that we get reset after only a few hours with the second country wondering why they lost reset again...

I have no problem with being the underdog - on the contrary it makes flying much more challenging - but oth strategic efforts are always doomed to fail. Too many leave the losing country to soon - hordes of enemies i/b from all sides make it impossible to defend or even to regain the offensive.

(*) <-- for that reason a 3-sided arena does not work at all - people are too concerned to get their vulches and milkruns... so why not introduce a 2-sided arena - at least you can focus on 1 enemy! E.g. not having put your HQ down by 1 side and fields captured by the other!  2 sided arena with (semi-)historical setup (e.g. axis vs. allies) - no, not as CT (too few players in my timezone) but as only choice! I really can't see the pros of the 3 sided (e.g. 2 vs. 1) arena right now! It obviously failed!

OR introduce more balancing factors - e.g. limited aircraft spawn from specific bases, lower win-perks if numbers too loopsided, higher ENY values for outnumbered, special planes (e.g. Me163) if less than 5 fields  :D )
Title: MA sucks camel bellybutton lately
Post by: Don on April 26, 2002, 08:44:58 AM
>>I have no problem with being the underdog - on the contrary it makes flying much more challenging - but oth strategic efforts are always doomed to fail. Too many leave the losing country to soon - hordes of enemies i/b from all sides make it impossible to defend or even to regain the offensive. <<

Kirin:
Based on the events of the past couple of days, I'd say this is a moot point :) Rooks are back in fine fettle.
Last night Rooks ran amock and were able to do so simply because we organized our attacks, and there was a committee of folks running things. Numbers weren't the deciding factor as, for much of the time I was flying, we didnt have the most numbers; the Kinigits did. I also noticed the fights for territory were much better, and there wasn't as much inane BS being talked over CH1; the main requirement was to pay attention and fly and fight like it meant something. IMO, thats what competing well is all about.
I salute all who flew and fought last night in the MA. It was one of the best couple of hours I have spent in the arena in a long time