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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mighty1 on April 22, 2002, 11:09:38 AM
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Just when you don't think they can get any more retarded....
When retards are put in charge! (http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/04/21/dog.adrift.ap/index.html)
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Well dammit.....if it was a decent dog, like a Lab, it could swim home!
:)
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Hmmm... One can purchase .22 caliber bullets for approximately $0.14 each...
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all that effort to send him to a dog shelter and put to sleep
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did you see the poll next to the article? 59% of the people who read the article agreed that the expense was justified. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN ME!
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I just rolled my eyes when I saw that.
For some really rare animal I can see it, but a dog? That's just a joke.
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ridiculous imo.
I like the fact they rescued it, it is a living creature after all.. but damn, they mounted an entire operation just for it. whatever happened to sending a single chopper to pick it up?
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gilligan gets a gas BBQ and the howells get the professor to serve dog-k-bob's with a methyl-ethyl keytone glaze on the new grill.
shame ta hear they been dumpin chemicals on gilligans island. :(
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Didn't come outta *my* pocket, nor yours... I think it's a nifty story. Who cares how stupid it is... A buncha people spent 50 grand to save a dog. That's the kinda kooky stuff that makes life interesting.
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How can we justify the extent of our moral convictions based upon how much money it costs us? That animal DESERVED to be saved after spending 19 days adrift with nothing to eat but that dead Indonesian crewman, which is poetic justice since the Indonesians don't keep dogs for pets, but rather for fresh meat.
That Captain should be imprisoned for abandoning that poor dog.
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Elfenwolf How many animals are now being put to sleep because some retard decided to waste their budget on one dog?
The one that should be put in jail is the person who authorized the rescue.
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guys stop flipping out
Think of it as a training exercise. It is like a firefighter getting a cat out of a tree (which also costs heaps of cash, though not 50K)
If these guys were to rescue a family and dog off a civilian craft that had a pet on it do you think that they would say "no the dog cant come?"
If you ask me, they are just learning how to deal with new situations.
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Mighty1, let me tell you the story of the little girl on the beach. Once a little girl was walking on a beach where thousands of starfish had washed ashore and were dying.
The little girl began throwing the starfish back into the surf in an effort to save them.
An old man, upon observing her efforts, said "It's no use, little girl. There's too many of them, you'll naver make a difference."
"Oh yeah?" said the little girl, throwing another starfish back into the surf. "I made a difference for THAT one."
So you see, Mighty1, we at PETA make a difference one animal at a time. And most people would agree with my compassion, too. In fact I'd wager that if a news copter showed footage of a dog abandoned at sea on a boat and a human abandoned at sea on a DIFFERENT boat that the viewers of the news show would donate more money to save the dog than they would to save the human.
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Your analogy does not apply here because we are not talking about just manual labor we are talking about using limited funds to help one animal instead of using those same funds to help many.
I can feel compasion for an animal but to put the needs of a few over the needs of the many is stupid.
I also don't agree with your comment that most people would rather save an animal over a human.
I always suspected Peta was full of diddlying morons so thanks for proving me right.
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elfenwolf watched HOLY MAN. And seems to memorize every eddie murphy line.
Thats just freaky!
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Economically that does not make sense - $50,000 could have been used much more efficiently - to save the lives of many dogs, for example.
But that was not supposed to make sense economilcally. People just wanted to spend some money - few dollars each. I am sure they did not spend their rent money to save that dog.
Mighty, what's wrong with a group of private citizens spending their money any way they want? Why are you concerned who is in charge or that they should be put in jail?
Why do you believe that they should care about any needs, wether of few or many, instead of doing what the heck they want with their dollars?
If you love counting money in other people's pockets and deciding what they should or should not do under threat of prison, you may want to check Cuba as a place of residence - with such mindset you would fit right in with those freaking commies.
miko
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Hey miko2d I was responding to Elf's comment about the boat Captain.
My comment was just as retarded as Elf's but it was to prove a point which was obviously lost on you. :rolleyes:
I don't really think anyone should go to jail.
BTW I knew Cuba had Commies but I wasn't aware that they had mutated into the "Freaking" type. :p
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Mighty1, You call me a moron...and I embrace you. You call my comments retarded...and I kiss you. See, I am not on some steroid-induced macho trip from eating red meat the way you seem to be. I love all my Earth Mother's creatures, but I prefer to come to the defense of animals because there are so many Republicans whose agenda is to cut all our trees and kill all our animals.
It is so typical of you right wing nut burgers to state you think we should have sunk that ship rather there was a dog on board or not rather than even attempt to raise funds in the private sector to save this splended animal, but you know what? You lost, Mighty1. See, more people like me were willing to donate money to save the dog than there were people like you who hate animals and animal lovers like myself and my associates with PETA who wanted to see the dog die. Do you think people would come to your aid the way they came to that dog's aid? I wouldn't.
It must be tough to have lost the way you did, but I love you, Mighty1, in spite of yourself. After all, we are all the Earth Mother's creations and provided we follow the covenant to never use anything made out of styrofoam or plastic and to always vote Green She will watch over us and our hemp plants will blossom.
Peace out, my friend.
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Alright, Elf, step back from the bong. That has to be one of the most inane and conflicted comments I have seen in quite some time...
You love him, but wouldn't come to his aid if he was stranded on that ship?
Vote Green and don't use styrofoam?
Hey bud, those comments cost you some money. When I read them I doubled over laughing, accidentally knocking over my Subway coffee. I cracked the foam cup when I grabbed at it, and instinctively reached for the nearest object to clean up the spill. This being the plastic bag my double roast beef sandwich came in, all I accomplished was to smear the coffee all over my desk. Heck, I even lost my newspaper (and I'm really peeved about that one, because I was reading a great article about how the Republicans want to clearcut some virgin timber and start drilling for oil- a great idea, if you ask me).
The way I see it, your comments are going to cost you roughly $10. I don't accept checks, but I do take plastic. ;)
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HEHEH! Good one Kieren!
As usual Elf your delusional.
Not once did I say I hated animals(I had a tasty one a few minutes ago) or wanted to cut down trees or wanted that dog to die nor did I ever say I was even a Republican.(I am more Republican than Democrat) No it's just more of your inane ranting.
I guess mother earth is providing you with the electricity to run your computer and the gas for your car?
I guess that only applies to OTHER people. I understand ...save mother earth unless it some how inconveniences you.
Puh-leeze!
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a couple of people are gettin' taken for a riiiiiiiide.......
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Elf you are killing me!!
:D
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Originally posted by miko2d
Economically that does not make sense - $50,000 could have been used much more efficiently - to save the lives of many dogs, for example.
But that was not supposed to make sense economilcally. People just wanted to spend some money - few dollars each. I am sure they did not spend their rent money to save that dog.
Mighty, what's wrong with a group of private citizens spending their money any way they want? Why are you concerned who is in charge or that they should be put in jail?
Why do you believe that they should care about any needs, wether of few or many, instead of doing what the heck they want with their dollars?
If you love counting money in other people's pockets and deciding what they should or should not do under threat of prison, you may want to check Cuba as a place of residence - with such mindset you would fit right in with those freaking commies.miko
PETA is a political action group that supports the use of taxpayers money to further their wants. I didn't click on the url, but the simple introduction of the name PETA is an indication of the level of inteligence on this thread. PETA IS a socialist group that uses terrorist tacticts to further its political agenda. Any doubts can be aleviated by simple research into AP reports, most of which have never been reported.
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Elfenwood is my new spiritual mentor.
*runs outside wearing a robe, hugs tree*
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No way, Nash. There was Canadian Bacon on that sandwich... what animals do you guys make that out of? They sure taste good...
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Originally posted by Nash
a couple of people are gettin' taken for a riiiiiiiide.......
Please have your 'E' tickets ready........ :eek:
(I'm afraid that reference may be getting a little obscure:( )
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Originally posted by Lazerus [/B]
PETA is a political action group that supports the use of taxpayers money to further their wants. I didn't click on the url, but the simple introduction of the name PETA is an indication of the level of inteligence on this thread. PETA IS a socialist group that uses terrorist tacticts to further its political agenda. Any doubts can be aleviated by simple research into AP reports, most of which have never been reported.
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PETA stands for PEOPLE for the ETHICAL TREATMENT of ANIMALS. Now why in the hell are so many of you against treating animals ethicallY?? As far as funding goes it's all from the private sector, so don't even try to claim your tax dollars are getting ripped off.
Admittedly some PETA members are passionate about their beliefs, and many of us feel the ends justify the means when it comes to accomplishing our agenda, but animals can't talk for themselves...they NEED us to be their advocates.
As usual the Republiclowns are up in arms because those of us more compassionate than they felt good over the story of a little dog being saved after 19 days adrift at sea. Don't you conservatives hold ANYTHING sacred? even LIFE?? I'm throughly disgusted with the lack of respect shown for the sacred life of a little dog. Don't you know ALL life is a gift from our Earth Mother and is sacred? Sheeesh, I'd say more but I'm late for a pro-choice rally. You guys amaze me with your lack of respect for life.
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Oh come on elf I was having fun.:)
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As I recall, PETA was all up in arms a couple years ago about the Air Force Academy buying rabbits for the cadets to eat during their survival training. Each camp of approximately 10 to 15 cadets is given 2 or 3 rabbits, so they can learn how to kill, skin, and cook it. Tell me Elfenwood, would you rather have those poor starving cadets tromping all through the woods, inadvertantly killing lots of plant life, looking for an animal to capture and then kill and eat, knowing that they probably aren't very skilled at trapping on their own and might be a little less humane about it, not because of any malicious intent, but out of the sheer need for survival?
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mjolnir, are you at the Blue Zoo?
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Hehe, yup, you're so compassionate you'd leave a fellow human being stranded on the boat... but would donate $ to save the dog. Mind you, these are your words.
Heck, I love animals. Nothing goes better between two slices of American whole wheat than fresh beef. Dog or cat will do in a pinch, but beef is better.
Don't you just love the smell of new car, that leather smell just permeating your pores?
The trouble with using mucilage glue is it doesn't stick all that well. They should use younger horses.
Hey, if it isn't too much trouble, could you snap a picture of yourself pedaling that electric generator? While you're at it, include a snap of that stone computer you're using.
I find hunting squirrels with a .22 leaves more meat to eat than when I do it with a 16 gauge, but the shotgun is undoubtedly more fun for its explosive effect.
Did you know that if you keep walking a rabbit will freeze in its tracks? That's when you turn and blast it.
Why do they call it "pro-choice"? Isn't it really "pro-death"? And why are these same people against the death penalty?
:D :confused: :D
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Love you Mighty, but I can't let this pass...
Just when you don't think they can get any more retrarded
.... :p
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DOH!
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Mighty1: ...My comment was just as retarded as Elf's but it was to prove a point which was obviously lost on you. :rolleyes:
I don't really think anyone should go to jail.
I did give you the benefit of the doubt - I indicated that your view may be more compartible with communists so that you could reevaluate it. I did not call you a communist outright, did I? ;)
...I knew Cuba had Commies but I wasn't aware that they had mutated into the "Freaking" type. :p
You go live under communists for 25 years and they will freak you out too... :p
Laserus: PETA is a political action group that supports the use of taxpayers money to further their wants. I didn't click on the url, but the simple introduction of the name PETA is an indication of the level of inteligence on this thread. PETA IS a socialist group that uses terrorist tacticts to further its political agenda.
I did not see anything about PETA using our money to save that dog (I would have donated $50 if asked privately). I am just opposed against condemning private US citizens freely using their money.
Of course they PETA is incompatible with democracy. They have ample opportunity to bring their message to people. Then people decide. We do not even need political action - if most of us stopped doing something, there would not be a need to ban it. They failed in this grassroot democracy, they fail in political struggle too because the same people vote for president that use all that oil/plastic/meat. So they try to use lies/force/violence on us.
It always starts with a good idea forced on us beyong compatibility with human nature - communism, nazism, environmentalism. Every time they end up with a need to eliminate a bunch of humans in the process....
miko
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
.... Do you think people would come to your aid the way they came to that dog's aid? I wouldn't.
It must be tough to have lost the way you did, but I love you, Mighty1, in spite of yourself. After all, we are all the Earth Mother's creations and provided we follow the covenant to never use anything made out of styrofoam or plastic and to always vote Green She will watch over us and our hemp plants will blossom.
Peace out, my friend.
Typical self-righteous hypocritical holier than thou talk of the PETA types. In one statement, he says that he would not come to the aid of his fellow man in the same situation and in the next breath tells him that he loves him and we are all the same.
Dweeboid...
I'm going to have a sausage, egg and cheese sandwich for breakfast, a Chicken sandwich for lunch, and a big plate of VEAL chops for dinner.
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Looks like a big one Elf.......work the line...work the line!
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Originally posted by mjolnir
As I recall, PETA was all up in arms a couple years ago about the Air Force Academy buying rabbits for the cadets to eat during their survival training. Each camp of approximately 10 to 15 cadets is given 2 or 3 rabbits, so they can learn how to kill, skin, and cook it. Tell me Elfenwood, would you rather have those poor starving cadets tromping all through the woods, inadvertantly killing lots of plant life, looking for an animal to capture and then kill and eat, knowing that they probably aren't very skilled at trapping on their own and might be a little less humane about it, not because of any malicious intent, but out of the sheer need for survival?
I remember that rabbit fiasco, and you're damn right we were up in arms over that!! The Air Force wasn't using old lice-infected wild jackrabbits for their sick and perverted "training" exercise, but rather fluffy little pet-shop bunnies who had no fear of humans...Now tell me that's the kind of food you're going to find in a swamp!
As far as trampling all the plant life, I wonder why the Air Force doesn't teach their cadets haw to recognize edible plants yet instead wastes their money teaching them how to kill bunnies?
Kirean, the reason I would rescue a dog off a boat and leave the man, if my rescue vessel is limited to saving only one of them, is because the man CHOOSES to go to sea and the dog had NO CHOICE but to go to sea. The little dog we helped saved was a victim of man's cruelty. Go ahead, make jokes about the sausage and steaks you eat, but you won't be laughing when your arteries clog up and you get colin cancer. Eating animals is more unhealthy than using heroin and should be just as illegal.
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HEHE the fun continues..
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
I remember that rabbit fiasco, and you're damn right we were up in arms over that!! The Air Force wasn't using old lice-infected wild jackrabbits for their sick and perverted "training" exercise, but rather fluffy little pet-shop bunnies who had no fear of humans...Now tell me that's the kind of food you're going to find in a swamp!
Try again Elf. The Air Force was paying 7 bucks a bunny, regardless of condition. The one I got had a broken leg, and definitely was not a fluffy little pet shop bunny. And I hate to tell you, but there's nothing sick or perverted about learning how to save your own life if you're shot down over hostile territory.
As far as trampling all the plant life, I wonder why the Air Force doesn't teach their cadets haw to recognize edible plants yet instead wastes their money teaching them how to kill bunnies?
It is part of the curriculum to teach what plants are edible and which ones aren't. So maybe those hungry cadets wouldn't step on one that they recognized as edible, but you never know, hunger does funny things to people. But if you love all things equally, then shouldn't you have a problem with eating plants too? They are living things after all, aren't they? And are you saying that as long as they weren't hurting the edible plants, it'd be ok for them to step on everything else in the woods looking for food?
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Ho hum.. can't even pay attention to who is making the sarcastic remarks to you.
What if the person had been kidnapped and left abord the ship? Then they wouldn't be there by choice. Who would you save if you could only save one?
What if the dog was a stow away? If it had run aboard the ship while it was at port and was hiding out onboard?
What say you off all the rats and other small rodents that were probably on that ship as well? Would you also want to go and save all them? Or are they just garbage and you care nothing of them?
Why did the humane society not scour the ship looking for the rodents and rescue them also? There were probably cockroaches aboard as well. Are they any less deserving of life?
Evolution is the way it is because certain animals learned to eat the flesh of others. It's all in the food chain.
If you go by the Bible, then God told Adam to chow down on the animals, just not to do so if they still have blood in them.
Even plants eat other animals. It's just the way it should be.
And $50,000 for one stupid dog? How nice to waste the money when there are hundreds of starving children in war-torn countries that could have been fed a nice meal and maybe given some medical treatment. I guess being humane is only good if you can be seen on the news doing it and making a name for yourself. Why help innocent children when no one will notice? :rolleyes:
And the cute fuzzy bunny story... Why were you mad about that? At least those rabbits weren't full of fear when they were killed. Unlike a small wild rabbit that would have probably been caught in a snare, ran in circles panicing and then had a heart attack when the human grabbed it by ears to break its little neck...
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
As far as trampling all the plant life, I wonder why the Air Force doesn't teach their cadets haw to recognize edible plants yet instead wastes their money teaching them how to kill bunnies?
It's obvious. The military and the Air Force in particular, don't care who or what they hurt, trample on or kill to thwart those of us in PETA dedicated to the protection of all living things. Truly a despicable turn of events--we've had to move personnel from our Total Fishing Ban project just to deal with these lunatics. If I wasn't such a tree hugging liberal, I'd send them a gun so they could have an accident with it.
dh
(Member, Elfluff'n Squelcher Fan Club)
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There must be some sort of genetic trait that forces people to get trolled. I would think that after all this time, Elfenwolf would have had to change his name once or twice to catch fish. But he doesn't they just jump in his net, fight for his line, and haul themselves on his boat.
Elfenwolf, master baiter.
-Sikboy
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hmmmmmmm, This particular bend in the river sure has a lot of lines in the water. :cool:
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mjoliner, Did you seek medical attention for the injured bunny??? I'm amazed the Air Force would let a bunch of green cadets mutilate and KILL small bunny rabbits. I guess that's done to make you hold life in such little regard that it makes it easier for you to bomb the Afghanistan goat herds and starve the Afghan people to death.
Go ahead, war monger. Brag about how you killed the little bunny with the broken leg. Some day I hope you go on trial for the murder of that little bunny and I hope your jury is made up of small fluffy mammals. I hope you get what you deserve, murderer.
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looks like one o' them new silver-spinner crank baits. No mercy at all!
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Kirean, the reason I would rescue a dog off a boat and leave the man, if my rescue vessel is limited to saving only one of them, is because the man CHOOSES to go to sea and the dog had NO CHOICE but to go to sea. The little dog we helped saved was a victim of man's cruelty. Go ahead, make jokes about the sausage and steaks you eat, but you won't be laughing when your arteries clog up and you get colin cancer. Eating animals is more unhealthy than using heroin and should be just as illegal.
But red meat is my addiction! It's like crack; I can't get enough. Sure, I lost my job, my wife, my family- heck, there ought to be a program for people like me. Lord knows I shouldn't have to be responsible to take care of myself- that's the government's job.
You know what's great about toy poodles? They can't fight back when you beat their butts for soiling the carpet, and you can do it in the privacy of your own home. Heck, if you go too far you can eat the evidence! :D
I would love to see the look on your tree-hugging butt if a Coast Guard cutter picked up a dog and left you sitting on the overturned carcass of a boat... ;)
Sikboy- yeah, he's trolling, but the responses are too easy to pass. Just having fun.
Used to love the Sunday gridiron action, watching the pigskin getting passed with such beautiful precision...
...is there anything better than a catgut tennis racket?...
...ah, 'tis spring, and just hearing the crack of the wooden bat against the ol' horsehide sends chills down my spine...
...some guys like wooden handgrips on their pistols. Me, I'm partial to ivory...
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My Brother Kieran,
First of all, if I were adrift at sea with a dog and a rescuer could only take one of us I would insist that the dog be rescued before me. Now I know it's a strange concept to actually be responsible for our stewardship over the animals, but as the keepers of the Earth we are responsible for keeping her as pristine as possible. Many of us in PETA take this responsibility seriously.
Don't you see the terrible blood lust you have developed because of your red meat addiction? The only reason you prefer ivory handled pistol grips is because something had to DIE for you to get them. You seem to live in an orgy of red meat and death for your amusement which is contrary to the teachings of our Earth Mother.
I personally eat seeds and nuts because they have not been born until they actually sprout. This is in keeping with my pro-choice stance- these seeds and nuts are plant fetuses and therefore simply unviable tissue mass, like any fetus, and thus are OK to eat without harm to Earth Mother.
I will light a blue Peace Candle in your name tonight and chant in incantation to help you overcome your death-deamon addiction to red meat and decay. I will also light a yellow colin candle to help unplug you and make you more regular. Kieran, there is still help for you if you really want it. I'm there for you, my brother.
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I'd rather you eat one of those unborn fetuses that was aborted, considering the fact by your definition they are food anyway. ;)
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he is reeling me in, i know he cant be serious but
elfenwood you are one sick motherdiddlyer if you think eating animals are wrong but aborting human being is ok.
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Zigrat, Who is the sick one here? First of all I wasn't talking about abortion, so all I will say on that topic is that I don't feel I have the authority to tell a woman she MUST give birth to an unwanted child. IMO, to feel like YOU have the moral authority to sentance a woman (or young girl, in many cases) to give birth to a baby is much sicker than the pro-abortion crowd.
My response to Mighty1's contention that we should have just let the dog die once he finished consuming the carcass of the dead Indonesian seaman, agreed to by so many on this thread, was that respect for life encompasses ALL of Earth Mother's creatures, from humans to animals to fish to plants even.
We are a society governed by laws, and as long as abortion is legal I can eat seeds and nuts with a clear concience. Between apples, seeds, nuts, raw cow's milk and breathology techniques I'm in excellent health and, in fact, can even poop on command. Let's see you red meat eaters do THAT, huh?
One misconception of PETA is that it's a leftist orginization. Nothing could be further than the truth. While it's true there's more Democrats than Republicans in the general membership, the more fervent members- those of us who commit acts of terrorism against meat processing plants and pet stores- are Republican flag-waving George W. Bush supporters who happen to love animals. Thank Mothers Nature and Earth for the right wing extremists within PETA who are willing to risk imprisonment to call attention to the shameless exploitation of our wildlife.
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We are not worthy, EW. :D
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Between apples, seeds, nuts, raw cow's milk and breathology techniques I'm in excellent health and, in fact, can even poop on command. Let's see you red meat eaters do THAT, huh?
ROFL
I say we send Elfie to "Bass Masters" as an instructor.
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Elf wrote:
My response to Mighty1's contention that we should have just let the dog die once he finished consuming the carcass of the dead Indonesian seaman, agreed to by so many on this thread, was that respect for life encompasses ALL of Earth Mother's creatures, from humans to animals to fish to plants even.
Hehe where do you come up with these things?
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Hey Elf, how many shopping days left until Arbor Day? :D