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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: LePaul on March 11, 2001, 01:48:00 PM
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First of all, great release.
The perked aircraft are really really cool but the big problem I have with them is their expense. Heck, I'd fly the Wright Flyer over the enemy CV if it would give me 10 perk points! But I know I am having the darndest time accumulating these things. I've got a few points I'd like to illustrate...
1. I've been flying the Ju88 and TBM a lot to try to earn more points. On MANY occasions, I've shot down attacking fighters only to receive no credit for the kill. I can understand maybe not getting credit once or twice, but last night I shot down 6 people and got credit for 1. This is so disheartening, since its a real wonder if you CAN shot someone down with the Ju88s Red Ryder BB guns.
2. The Perked Aircraft are so expensive. I flew all night and got a whopping 9 bomber perk points. I generally do not fly as much as I do (and I've got the pissed off girlfriend to prove it) and it just seems that these perked aircraft are just unattainable to us weekend pilots who long a couple of hours during the week. I think I logged 18 hours last month, according to your stats. Can the cost of these be slashed?
3. I've seen the troubles Wobble and others are having with their perked aircraft....where if you fly one, and return home safely, your points are zapped. Yikes! Tell me the perk point system is either going bye bye or severely overhauled!
Overall I'm happy. But the only folks that are getting to fly the perked airplanes are the guys that log a LOT of time on here. I don't log nearly as much time, but I am a paying user. Could you try to find a common balance between the Have and Have Nots (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thanks!
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Paul J. Busiere
Aces High Arena handle: BD5Pilot
http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
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Paul, I've got a few suggestions for getting some more perk points:
1) Go for fleets. Fleets are untouched and unattended most of the time - 2,000lb should sink an escort destroyer (All ships give you 5 perk points regardless of size)
2) Use the C-47 for field captures. You get a lot of perk points for this indeed.
3) Hit strat targets. I don't think I've hit any this tour but I'm pretty sure they give you a fair number of points (Though not as much as they used to)
The idea of the perk plane system though is that you DON'T get them often - of course, the 2 month head start many people have had gives them a bit of an advantage..
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I think the cannon version of the Corsair and the Ostwind should be the perk units. I offer:
F4UC = 20 points
Ostwind = 10 points
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Duma <S!>
I got a *whopping* 2 points for sinking a CV last night. And, you may recall that on most any mission I can, I fly the goon. Problem is for the last 2 days, whenever someone yells for a goon, I try to help. More times than I wish to recall, Knights say land and hold short. I wait and wait and wait. Then Knights decide they dont want that field and leave me stranded, or leave me exposed to fighters. So, Im not a very *happy* gooney driver for knights at the moment. Knights love to moan they need a goon. They hate to cover em. Got the films to prove it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I know what you mean about the 2 month head start. Didnt have one here. Closed old account, opened new one...lost all the oldies and cant get em back.
Trying anyways....just maddening when kills dont score as they should (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Paul J. Busiere
Aces High Arena handle: BD5Pilot
http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
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Pay me for a month of AH and I'll give you 1088.xx fighter perk points.
The other categories I have enough perk points to buy half of an Arado... or an Arado without engines. :-)
I've flown two Ta152s. First one I lost to a 30K B17. Second one I got two kills in it, then got bored with constantly looping at a D9 and HOed him. It was worth it though! :-)
100 perk points down the drain, but I've already gotten back 20+ of 'em.
Try flying the La5FN, man 3 kills and I got 10 perk points last night.
Thanks to everyone flying the 190D9, you guys are bloating my perk points nicely! <G>
-SW
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I had a Tempest Ho me yesterday in my D-9, he didnt even try to have a "real" fight he just cam straight at me...he lost (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
Pay me for a month of AH and I'll give you 1088.xx fighter perk points.
-SW
Can you change them to bomber perks??? if so I'll give ya 2 months AH for em (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It'll take me that long to earn em so I may as well pay for em up front.
I also have been in Ju88 enough to see that a 3-5 point mission is normal. I figure I'll get 6-10 good missions a week so It'll be that long till I can fly the Ar234.
Maybe they should charge $10-20 a month and then anywhere from free to $5 a plane to buy an airplane. Then when you lose it you gotta buy another. Then keep the perkie system as another way to pay for the planes???
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Chuck Perry
"Sky61"
[This message has been edited by Skysix1 (edited 03-11-2001).]
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Good to see another AH addict from Pasadena.
Hail!
T
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Hiya Lonz(DmdBT)! I got my RC Helo ready to be fired up anytime you say! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (but don't get too close to it as I am not to good at it yet (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))
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Chuck Perry
"Sky61"
[This message has been edited by Skysix1 (edited 03-11-2001).]
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Hehehe, I fly RC planes, a bit scared of them whirly topped things! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I fly with the Chesapeake Bay RC Club (CBRC).
Was nice chatting a bit online tonight.
T
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Why not award the perk points of the perk bomber/fighter to the killer?
ie. YYY is flying a Tempest. XXXX comes by and kills YYY (XXXX is flying non-perky)...so XXXX gets whatever the perk cost of that A/C was?
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Rip, since we can "create" perk planes by getting perk points, we gotta have a way to destroy em too. In your scenario YYY's plane wasnt destroyed, it was just transfered to XXX. The arena would will up with perk planes untill perk vs. perk combat was common enough to keep up with the rate of point generation (of non-perk planes). Thats gonna be alot of perk planes.
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yes but... how many perk points can dance on the head of a pin and.... why is "best dressed" pilot given so few perk points?
lazs
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Good point Regurge.
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Wow, have things changed since 1.6. concerning perkies. I agree that an adjustment needed to be made on attacks agasint faclities, but it seems a bit too lean now. I've had successful attacks with b-17s only to come up with 1-2 points max. Also, i dont know for sure but does air-to-air victorys in bombers even get perks?
In my opinion, i would like to see an increase in perk scoring per mission. The new player has to be a bit frustrated with the current scoring.
I have nothing but love for the perk system as a whole. Currently, i dont see many perk rides and flew alot this weekend. The system is working!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
WTG HTC!!!!!
LaVa
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LePaul, regarding goon calls, ya just gotta know who to listen to (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
Ofnte, the fields where there is a massive kniggit presence isn't the best - it draws attention to it and the field is never fresh - meaning it's unpredictable with regards to acks and hangars up.
me, I fly goons occasionally, and almost always for off the main front runs 8doesnt mean a milkrun, however).
There are also some people who are notorious for calling the goon way too late. Usually when our squad is operating and we have enough people online for an attack but not a goon driver along with it, we call the goon when we're closing on field and relatively unopposed. Like the Arado strike yesterday (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif). That way we can take out hangars and acks relatively quickly, let the bombers fly home and let the JABO's climb for cap
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://stsanta.tripod.com/stSanta.jpg)
"Live to pull, pull to live"
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My .02$
The biggest problem with some of the planes I can see is the 4 Cannon combinations on some of the planes. I hate to fly the F4U1-C because I can get kills with the most insane shots. All you have to do is spray and hope for a couple strikes and instead of minor damage the plane comes apart. Any plane that has that kind of power (IMHO) should be perked.
(Case in Point) The other night I flew the F4U1-C and engaged a fighter who was climbing away from me and was really in no danger, so at 700 + and moving away I started spraying and hit him a couple times! I can understand a lucky shot once in a while, but this seems to be the norm when dealing with heavily armed fighters.
I assume that cannon rounds were less available and more costly so it might make sense to perk them. Or mabye if you want to use a variant with 4+ cannons you have to pay perk points.
I don't mind being engaged by a superior plane and being beaten but being blown apart with snapshots really sucks. Mabye that's just me..
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StSanta...
Be happy to honor your goon calls now that I know you guys defend your own! Skipper was doing his best to help me out the other night, and Dumas was overhead in a Arado...a\only so much he can do besides bait the fighters away from my parked goon.
What really really irks me is when someone tells you to hold off on goon, and then *magically* someone has ignored those warnings, got a goon/m3 through and they get the capture. Meanwhile I've beena good boy, listening to the tanks/fighters up ahead who told me it was too hot to fly in. I just hate knowing I've sacrificed grabbing a bomber or figher, to sit there for so long, only to fly back empty handed. Sure, yea team, we got the base.
So, I'm tending to pay attention to the missions more, and who flies in Squads. Im a newbie trying out for the 332nd and I'm really impressed how much more fun the game is when you have a few guys all working together.
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Paul J. Busiere
Aces High Arena handle: BD5Pilot
http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
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We need to get Perk points for shooting down the Consistant Whiners..
Towd = 20.0
Ram = 50.0
Spivey = 20.0
Laz = 45.0
Minus = 60.0
And so on... This would be the ultimate high point sorties.
Dog out........
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I shot down Lazs in my perked G10.
I had the advantage only because of the plane. Had I been in a 202, he would have killed me.
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Perk the STAFF! Ole HiTech was all over my gooney week ago with his Niki. I did everything I could do <laugh> to evade him, evil pulling a loop. He was nice enough to let me recover, then shoot me down.
Yea....hehe...staff kills definetly worth some points. Hear than, C++ Boy? LOL.
And about perking whiners...surely you jest! Just IMAGINE how long these threads will get!
If you are going to do that, heck, perk the sheep.
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Paul J. Busiere
Aces High Arena handle: BD5Pilot
http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
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Originally posted by Tumbler:
... I started spraying and hit him a couple times! ...
An introduction of gun barrel overheating would severely limit such spraying.
Other then losing some speed there seems to be no penalty for emptying the whole clip in one burst.
miko
[This message has been edited by miko2d (edited 03-12-2001).]