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Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Cherlie on April 23, 2002, 05:12:15 AM: Mine was on the C64 (goes back a long time and it was always better than Amstrad) and it was the battle of britian, gosh that game was so much fun :)

then after years of lonliness, I found Aces over Europe. I still play it to this day :)

CharlieB
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: gofaster on April 23, 2002, 08:05:01 AM: "Chuck Yeager's Air Combat" on an AST 486DX2-66 w/ 16Mb of RAM, Windows 3.1 machine, played in DOS mode, using the CH Products Flightstick (only 2 buttons -what was I thinking?). Gave the machine to my brother last year, but still have the game in my cd-library and the joystick in the garage as an emegency backup in case my CH Combatstick dies (which it hasn't after 3 years of front-line combat tours :) ). Nobody has yet duplicated that sim - combined WW2, Korea, and Vietnam all in one game!

My first dedicated jet sim was F-117A by Microprose, followed by USNF by Electronic Arts, all played on that same AST desktop PC with the CH Flightstick. I didn't upgrade machines and joysticks until I got into Air Warrior on AOL in 1996.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: hblair on April 23, 2002, 08:07:23 AM: Warbirds...
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: samu1 on April 23, 2002, 08:15:56 AM: Started off with AW 1.5 on cd (still have it) and then moved on to AW4W on Compuserve when I got hooked up to the net. Stuck with AW until AH beta came out, been here ever since.
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Post by: Eagler on April 23, 2002, 08:20:10 AM: BattleHawks 1942

then SWOTL made me upgrade my 286 with 2 mb of ram and a compressed 20mb hard drive into a screaming 386! :)
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Post by: Don on April 23, 2002, 08:20:14 AM: AW 1.20 offline; AW4W; AW2 = all on a Compaq 100Mhz P-1; AW3; AH closed beta = on a P-II 300 Mhz; AH= on a P-III 933 Mhz Dell PC.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Wanker on April 23, 2002, 08:27:51 AM: Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (SWOTL)
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Puck on April 23, 2002, 08:33:56 AM: Do Mac's count? First sim was A2FS1, first combat sim was Falcon 1 on the Mac 128 (which was amazing when I put it on a Mac Plus; it didn't have CPU throttling, so I could go from engine off on the runway to 70,000 feet in less than five seconds). First online flight sim was AW, which lasted about thirty seconds. First online flight sime I played was WB. I've got about 15 flight sims right now, but I avoid all the WWII-era ones exept AH so I don't screw up what little I know about flying in the main.
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Post by: Hajo on April 23, 2002, 08:37:48 AM: First flight sim on old 8086 was Their Finest Hour. Battle of Britain flight sim. LOL when aircraft banked they looked more like Sea Gulls (wings bent) then aircraft. Then........graduated to Aces of The Pacific. First night flying sim I can remember. Huge improvement in graphics alone between those two flight sims.

:p
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: keyapaha on April 23, 2002, 08:40:29 AM: this one
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: TheOxman on April 23, 2002, 08:45:47 AM: Quote
Originally posted by gofaster
"Chuck Yeager's Air Combat" on an AST 486DX2-66 w/ 16Mb of RAM, Windows 3.1 machine, played in DOS mode, using the CH Products Flightstick (only 2 buttons -what was I thinking?). Gave the machine to my brother last year, but still have the game in my cd-library and the joystick in the garage as an emegency backup in case my CH Combatstick dies (which it hasn't after 3 years of front-line combat tours :) ). Nobody has yet duplicated that sim - combined WW2, Korea, and Vietnam all in one game!

My first dedicated jet sim was F-117A by Microprose, followed by USNF by Electronic Arts, all played on that same AST desktop PC with the CH Flightstick. I didn't upgrade machines and joysticks until I got into Air Warrior on AOL in 1996.

That my story also. Chuck Yeager's Air Combat. "It's a great day for flying!" Aces of the Pacific was then next one after F-117A. I spend most of the time in high school drafting classes playing F-117A. One day a Sub-Teacher caught me a my buddy playin'. The sub looked at me and said. "You need to get alt. then dive on the target, not fly map of the earth." I was stunned. But that's when i really learned how to dive bomb.
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Post by: 8ball on April 23, 2002, 09:14:01 AM: My first flight sim was Corncob Deluxe on my good ole 25MHz, 5MB of system memory Tandy. Obvisously, this was a DOS game.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: narsus on April 23, 2002, 09:15:51 AM: Aces of the Pacific.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: JimBear on April 23, 2002, 09:21:13 AM: "Their Finest Hour"

On an Amiga 500, screaming along at 7mhz :)
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Animal on April 23, 2002, 09:29:37 AM: Fighter Duel, on DOS.
Pentium 90, 8mb EDO-RAM.

Lighting fast, baby...
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on April 23, 2002, 09:31:14 AM: First sim, Falcon in CGA.
First WW2 sim, BoB then SWOTL if I recall good. Both with great plane camos because they were "drawings" who switched depending on the position relative from you.
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Post by: eddiek on April 23, 2002, 09:53:22 AM: Warbirds......
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 23, 2002, 10:08:52 AM: my first was Spitfire, on an old apple 2plus.

The on to f15 strike eagle on the same machine.

later after getting a 386-25

I played chuck yeager air combat.

red baron.

Their finest hour

SWOTLW

then later on a p90.

aces of the pacific and europe

then on a p120 Warbirds......

Now aces.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Steven on April 23, 2002, 10:16:13 AM: Battlehawks, 1942, then
Battle of Britain, then
Aces Of The Pacific
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Mathman on April 23, 2002, 10:24:14 AM: My very first was this one from Microprose called "Spitfire Ace."

Then:

Strike Eagle
Falcon (the original)
BattleHawks
Their Finest Hour
Red Baron
SWOTL
Aces of the Pacific
Falcon 3
Fleet Defender
Pacific Strike (actually kind of cool, but a little cheesy)
Aces Over Europe
PAW (My all time favorite, bar none)
Red Baron 2
Janes F-15
Falcon 4
EAW
Janes WW2F
Flanker2-2.5
Aces High (My second all time favorite)
Janes F-18
CFS2 (just b/c it is PTO makes it fun)
Il-2
The Next Big Thing (looks like it will be LOMAC)

-math
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Pongo on April 23, 2002, 10:34:48 AM: BOB I think
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Post by: Zigrat on April 23, 2002, 10:53:15 AM: aces of the pacific! one of the all time greats.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: majic on April 23, 2002, 10:55:25 AM: SWOTL
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: popeye on April 23, 2002, 11:14:09 AM: BoB, or SWOTL (whichever was first) was my first WWII sim. My first flightsim was the SubLogic Flight Simulator on a TRS80 model II, but as I recall, it was a WWI sim.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Drano on April 23, 2002, 11:27:16 AM: Chuck Yeager's Air Combat for me too. Loved the cheezy "Yeager" window--"Break left!!"

Messed with Red Baron, Falcon 2 and the EAW demo. Somebody gave me AW3 for my birthday. After messin with that for a couple of months I wandered to Gamestorm one rainy afternoon and started my online flight career. Played that almost til it died. Came here last March.

Messed with the Il-2 Demo. While I think its much prettier than AH is I like AH a lot more flight wise. Stickin with #1 til something else blows me away. Maybe something like AH2? ;)

Drano
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Kieran on April 23, 2002, 11:27:29 AM: I popped back-and-forth between Aces Over the Pacific, Aces Over Europe, and Pacific Air War 1942.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: midnight Target on April 23, 2002, 12:01:04 PM: Airwarrior

6+ years in AW then I immigrated here. I settled into the South Central AH barrio and hope to be a full citizen some day!
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Otto on April 23, 2002, 12:09:08 PM: Something called 'Hellcat Ace' by Microprose (I think). But I did have the orginial 'Flight Simulator' by Sublogic runing on my Apple II and it had a WWI option. The enemy were 'dots' . And I mean 'dots' :) Your machine gun sort of 'clicked' when you fired. If you hit an enemy he just disapeared. You flew with the keyboard.
I don't miss any of that.......!
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Saintaw on April 23, 2002, 12:23:26 PM: FA-18 Hornet on Amiga (1990?) (with 7 missions ...and a sub that no-one I know of could manage to sink). PLayed those 7 missions again & again till I started seing aiming reticle around poeple in the streets :)
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Ripsnort on April 23, 2002, 12:31:33 PM: SWOTL, and nothings even come close to the fun factor and immersible micro-management one could do in that game.

SWOTL system requirements:
Computer: IBM and 100% compatibles. Operating System: MS-DOS 3.0 or higher. CPU: 16MHz 286 minimum. Memory: 640 KB required. Graphics Card: 256 color VGA/MCGA, 16 color EGA. Sound Card: AdLib, Sound Blaster, or PC Speaker supported.
Input Device: Keyboard, joystick, or mouse.
Installation: Hard drive required.
Title: Good Topic!!
Post by: Nefarious on April 23, 2002, 12:39:55 PM: You guys remember this? Mosquito!

Chasing after V-1 Buzz bombs! and bombing Nazi Trains! This game was the first Flight sim i ever played. I was 7 years old. I dont remember what kind of computer it was. When My grandma bought me a 75Mhz Pentium Packard Bell, I bought some 5 pack of flight sims which contained Flight of the Intruder and some other ones which never worked.

Then It went.

Silent Thunder
USNF 97
Fighters Anthology
F/A-18 Korea
Israeli Airforce
USAF
EAW
WW2F
Aces High
CFS2

And the list ends there. Now I'm 21, Going to college to make the same things I've played my whole life. Flight Sims.

Whats funny is that I started fooling with computers when I was 7. Now Kindergardeners ? have computers!!! It makes me jealous!
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Post by: Rude on April 23, 2002, 01:47:10 PM: What JimBear said.....flew some attack chopper game on a c-64 for a couple of years prior to the Amiga 500....then stepped up to the A-3000:)

Those were good years
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 23, 2002, 02:08:37 PM: Offline - "Thier Finest Hour" and SWOTL
Online - AOL Air Warrior
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Post by: Thrawn on April 23, 2002, 02:15:12 PM: AH...heheh picked the best on the first try.:D
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Zippatuh on April 23, 2002, 02:24:02 PM: Believe it or not the greatest SIM ever made, FA 2.5 :D
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Gman on April 23, 2002, 02:24:51 PM: I think it was F-15 Strike Eagle on the C64, one of the first Microprose titles.

Anyone remember airborne ranger? I consider it the start of the whole 1st/3rd person shooter genre myself.

Those were the days.
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: HFMudd on April 23, 2002, 02:52:31 PM: C64 here as well. I don't remember much about it other than you could play H2H in a split screen mode. As I recall it didn't have any notion of stalling...

Other 'tech' things I remember:
- The first calculators (no floating point)
- The first digital watches (red LED's)
- The height of home computing was the 'Cosmic Elf' (Program in hex!)
- VAXNet (Long before Al Gore "invented" the internet)
- Zork I

*sigh* I may have to go home early...
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Post by: gofaster on April 23, 2002, 03:00:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
FA-18 Hornet on Amiga (1990?) (with 7 missions ...and a sub that no-one I know of could manage to sink). PLayed those 7 missions again & again till I started seing aiming reticle around poeple in the streets :)

My first flight sim wasn't even mine. My ex-college roommate bought an Amiga and invited me over one night for dinner with his family. I think F/A-18 Hornet was the sim he loaded up to show me (and thereby got me so hooked I had to go out and get one of my own as soon as I got a decent-paying job). Or maybe it was the original "Jetfighter" on a plastic floppy disk now that I think about it....

Anyway, the memories are flooding back now!
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Post by: vorticon on April 23, 2002, 03:02:07 PM: my first flight ww2 flight sim was

ACE OF ACES for C64

looks like most of us played on a good ol' c64
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Post by: Beefcake on April 23, 2002, 03:07:10 PM: My first flight sim was "Hellcats over the Pacific" for the Macintosh. If I remember it correctly it came out in 1987, and, IMO, was a very good game for it's time. Every once in awhile I will still go and take my hellcat up and fight the hordes of Zekes and Franks attacking my base. :)
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Post by: Furious on April 23, 2002, 03:14:00 PM: LOL Saw, I used to land on that sub.

All my early sims were for the Amiga.

BOB "Their Finest Hour"
F/A 18 Hornet
Tornado
Falcon 3

F.

Edit-
Damn, from the posts about C64 and Amiga, it looks like Commodore could have ruled the world. Too bad they pissed it all away.
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Post by: funkedup on April 23, 2002, 03:31:44 PM: BattleHawks 1942, Amiga 500
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: funkedup on April 23, 2002, 03:38:50 PM: Saw, Dinger was a beta tester on that F-18 game.
It was called "F/A-18 Interceptor".
They did a DOS port later called "JetFighter" but it was not as good as the original.
I worked for the same company but was on less cool projects like the DOS port of "Outrun" and various console cartridges.
Oh, the joy of playing Bo Jackson Football/Baseball on Gameboy for 8 hours each day...
:D
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Post by: Mino on April 23, 2002, 04:17:42 PM: Chuck Yeager's Air Combat
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Post by: Beegerite on April 23, 2002, 08:40:48 PM: Babies :D

The first combat simulator I flew I had to first code myself from a basic program in 80Micro a magazine for Radio Shack TRS-80 computers. I coded it and ran it on my Radio Shack Color Computer with an amazing 16mb of RAM and a cassette tape drive. My second combat simulator was the Spad in Microsoft's Flight Simulator I which I ran in beautiful shades of green on a Columbia Portable Computer (58 lbs.) under DOS 2.0

Beeg
CO Rampaging Rooks of Retribution
a/k/a "Ye Olde Farte"
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Post by: GunnerCAF on April 23, 2002, 08:57:27 PM: C 64, Ace of Aces. I don't know if I would call it much of a sim. The C 64 had better flight sims :)

The first game I loaded when I got my first PC was AW DOS (1.2 ish??)

Gunner
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Post by: Ozark on April 23, 2002, 09:52:56 PM: Aces of the Pacific
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on April 23, 2002, 11:11:18 PM: gunship 1 microprose on c64
their finest hour on the amiga
EAW first online

since i got my first puter the c64 i looked for 3d simulations
in short to say :)
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Post by: Samm on April 23, 2002, 11:47:19 PM: Combat on atari .
After that, Their finest hour, in 1990 .
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Post by: Saintaw on April 23, 2002, 11:49:12 PM: Sooo, I can blame Dinger for having dropped out of College & having no life ? :D

On a more serious note, anyone remembers the "Seal Team", on PC , where ya had a "Seal Team" to deploy & control in Nam, could call helicopter support etc... that game kicked *** too!

Also I remember staying 27hours in a row, playin' Harpoon 1, I had so much cafeine in my blood I could not sleep for another 24 hours :eek:
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Post by: SKurj on April 23, 2002, 11:56:13 PM: BoB here..

ALL this mentioning of BoB and SWOTL ... look here:
http://www.totallygames.com

SKurj
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Post by: WhiteHawk on April 24, 2002, 12:23:17 AM: Aces over europe on 386sx
Love that game, but my version doesnt calculate puter speed
so everything goes wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to fast:(

(I read about a year ago that they were going to do
a AOE 3d version. Anyone else hear that?)
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Post by: chunder' on April 24, 2002, 12:59:52 AM: As far as WWII flying games go, first ones I recall playing were Ace of Aces and Dambusters on the good ol' C64....

LOAD"Dambusters",8,1 :D
Title: Re: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: Lazerus on April 24, 2002, 01:14:52 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Cherlie
Mine was on the C64 (goes back a long time and it was always better than Amstrad) and it was the battle of britian, gosh that game was so much fun :)

then after years of lonliness, I found Aces over Europe. I still play it to this day :)

CharlieB

Aces High is my first online flight sim. Played Hellcats Over The Pacific in '94 or so, but it was an AI game. Played the Il2 beta a few months back. That would be #2. Havent found a reason to leave AH, and from what I hear about the 'other' games, I wont for a long time to come:cool:

Just my 200 cents worth
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Post by: Lazerus on April 24, 2002, 01:24:27 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Mathman
My very first was this one from Microprose called "Spitfire Ace."

Then:

Strike Eagle
Falcon (the original)
BattleHawks
Their Finest Hour
Red Baron
SWOTL
Aces of the Pacific
Falcon 3
Fleet Defender
Pacific Strike (actually kind of cool, but a little cheesy)
Aces Over Europe
PAW (My all time favorite, bar none)
Red Baron 2
Janes F-15
Falcon 4
EAW
Janes WW2F
Flanker2-2.5
Aces High (My second all time favorite)
Janes F-18
CFS2 (just b/c it is PTO makes it fun)
Il-2
The Next Big Thing (looks like it will be LOMAC)

-math

Any other hobbies???
:) :rolleyes:
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Post by: fdiron on April 24, 2002, 02:38:41 AM: Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe

Awesome game that allowed you to manage your own bombing campaigns. Light years ahead of the competition. I bought Aces of the Pacific a few weeks after I got SWOTL, but aces didnt really even compare.
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Post by: RatPenat on April 24, 2002, 04:45:01 AM: Battle of Britain, Secret weapons LW, and six years at AW as MOTMX, Lince or ^Lobo
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Post by: akak on April 24, 2002, 11:40:32 AM: Hmmm...first flight sim was a game called Spitfire and that was back around '85 and then Strike Eagle back in '86 on my Apple IIE with a whopping 256k of RAM and 1 meg hard drive.

Ack-Ack
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Post by: Widewing on April 24, 2002, 12:08:14 PM: It's difficult to recall which was first, Hellcat Ace, F-15 Strike Eagle or F-19 Stealth Fighter. All on a C64. There were many others too.
Mostly, I played MicroProse games back then, circa 1986-88. Included in that list should be the still terrific Hunt for Red October submarine sim. That one was a gem.

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: Flossy on April 24, 2002, 12:55:16 PM: Air Warrior for the last 3.5 years of its life.....
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Post by: AKIron on April 24, 2002, 01:09:49 PM: Same here, 1st WWII Sim was Ace of Aces on the C64.

First combat sim was F15 Strike Eagle, also C64.
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Post by: fd ski on April 24, 2002, 01:38:37 PM: dambusters on ZX Spectrum+
top gun and BoB on C64 ( actually I had C128, but most wouldn't know what THAT was :D)

Newbies... :D
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Post by: funkedup on April 24, 2002, 01:40:14 PM: Ooooh C128, you rich bastard. :)
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Post by: AKIron on April 24, 2002, 01:47:45 PM: Been collecting all the computers I've owned over the years.

So far I have:
Intellivision
Atari 400
Several C64s
C128
Amiga 1000
Amiga 2000
x88 on up (edited for clarification - 8088, precursor to 8086)

Still looking for a good deal on an Atari 1040ST

This is one of those things that makes my wife go "hmmmm" :D
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Post by: Toad on April 24, 2002, 02:10:38 PM: Their Finest Hour on a 386. What pure fun that was... back before we all started to sweat the small stuff in games.

Seal Team! ooooooooYAH! Still got it around here someplace on little disks I think.
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Post by: Falcon on April 24, 2002, 03:27:07 PM: My first sim was F15 Strike Eagle on a friends apple computer.

I had a Atari desktop which I played Spitfire Ace, MiG Ace, Hellcat Ace, Tomahawk, Rescue on Fratulacus, Ace of Aces.

Then I had a IBM XT desktop. I played F19 Stealth Fighter, Jetfighter, Gunship, A harrier sim.

I move on to a 286/12 Packard Bell. I played Red Baron, Wing Commander, a few others I can't remember, oh yeah, FALCON 1.0 and F29 sim with backward firing missiles.

Then I move onto a 486/25. I played Aces of the Pacific with the 1946 addon, SWOTL, Wing Commander 2, Strike Commander, Pacific Strike, Gunship 2000, Tank platoon, Aces over Europe, F15 Strike eagle 2 and 3, and so on.

My first on-line experince was in TSN/INN's Red Baron. Then move on to AW2, AW3, AWMV and currently AH.

Falcon
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Post by: TMASTadon on April 24, 2002, 04:09:05 PM: Aces of the Pacific

Falcon 4.0

AW4W on AOHell

Now here.....:D I'm much happier here and my doctor tells me as long as I keep taking my medicine I will be Juuuuuuuust Fine! :D
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Post by: Wutz on April 24, 2002, 04:18:59 PM: Amiga BOB (Battle of britain) Later SWOTL on PC 386 Dx-20 Mhz 20 MB HD and a 1mb Svga card (state of the art)
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Post by: Pollock on April 24, 2002, 07:14:55 PM: Air Warrior 2 offline
EAW
Screaming Demons over Europe
B172 (only have played gunner lotsa fun though)
IL2 (havent even loaded it yet)
Damm you ACEs damm you ! All my simming time ihas been to you
damm.

JK best fun for the money thanks HTC
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Post by: Durr on April 24, 2002, 07:47:15 PM: I probably own and have played around 30 flight sims so I will just mention the WW2 ones.

My first flight sim of any era, as with so many of you, was Their finest hour, BOB. That kept me occupied on our Tandy 16 color (8mhz i think) for years until I saw Aces of the Pacific. I coveted that game but didnt have the computer power for it. Later my dad bought a new 486 (50mhz) and my first purchase was Aces of the Pacific. The computer came bundled with SWOTL as well, so for most of my high school years, whenever I played WW2 flight sims, I played those two. I still have never seen a sim that was as much fun from the strategic aspect as SWOTL, although I just recently bought Mig Alley and it seems to have an awesome strategic game, although not quite the level of micromanagement of everything that SWOTL did. My next WW2 sim was European Air War, which is probably the 2d best WW2 flight sim I own today, after AH. EAW was just plain awesome in every way, it makes my top 10 list of favorite flight sims from any era. A friend of mine gave me Janes WW2 fighters, but I never could really get into the game although it looks really pretty. I also had Luftwaffe Commander, which was a pretty cool sim, being the only sim I ever heard of that modelled the Spanish Civil War. When I was in college I played with SDOE a little bit, but never really got into it either, although I admired its physics modeling. I also tried to play Air Warrior 3, but it never would work right on the lab computers. I played Warbirds a little bit on a friends account or something, but I was always broke, so I never could afford an online flight sim at that time. After I graduated I found AH from a review on combatsim.com. It sounded like an awesome sim, so I tried the 2 weeks free. I was immediately and permanantly hooked. The 30.00 a week initially struck me as too much to pay, but of course I was unable to stay away. I was about to sign up again anyway, but when I heard that the price had been reduced I immediately came back. Ever since then, I have been unable to play other flight sims much at all, since all the time I have available for computer flying is used on this one. The only thing I didnt like was the unavailability of a historical theatre. With the addition of the CT, AH is as nearly perfect as any simulator I have ever seen. There are several WW2 sims out there I want to try out (rowans BoB, Il-2, CFS-3, B-17II) but I just dont have the time for more than one, and this is the one.
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Post by: troxel on April 25, 2002, 12:08:10 AM: I started out on the original Flight Simulator from Sublogic on the IBM PC 8086 in 1981 (monochrome monitor, no joysticks for PCs yet et.al). It was a civil flight sim, with a little WW1 map area. Enemy planes were rendered as nothing more than two parallel lines with a circle sandwiched between them, giving an idea of a bipe looking head-on.

I must say that one of the stand alone sims that I look back on the fondest is SWOTL. I still have it on my system (I just can't bring myself to delete it!). It was far ahead of its time, and had a great strategic campaign mode.
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on April 25, 2002, 12:22:13 AM: forgot to mention the king off simulations
pac man &
space invaders
Title: What was your first PC WW2 flight sim?
Post by: AKIron on April 25, 2002, 08:26:15 AM: Well, if we're gonna engage the Way Back machine, the first video game I remember was an arcade console running "Space Wars" in '72 or '73.

Edited: The only date I can find on this is '78. I feel sure it was released earlier than that.

Another edit: Did some more research, the game was originally developed in '62. Not made widely available 'till '78. I must have seen/played a test model because I know it was well before '78.