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Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Taiaha on April 26, 2002, 07:50:09 AM
When I flew WB I used Troy's Guncam on occasion; it produces some pretty nice results in terms of recreating the look and feel of vintage guncam footage.  I was thinking of reinstalling it on my machine, but I just wondered if anyone had used it in conjunction with AH, and if so, what the results were like?

For those not familiar with the utility, go here:

http://www.errthum.com/troy/warbirds/guncam/index.html (http://www.errthum.com/troy/warbirds/guncam/index.html)
Title: great feature .. ould be nice
Post by: airmess on April 26, 2002, 08:43:54 AM
i think this guncam feature has been developed for WB and doesn't work with AH ... unless HT is gonna add it as feature in the game. personally i think it's a good thing to think about HT.

airmess
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: milnko on April 26, 2002, 08:52:47 AM
I'm not sure as to why you'd need it in AH, with it's film capability and AVI export.
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Yeager on April 26, 2002, 09:23:37 AM
Build a "GUNCAM" option in the film  viewer.

All it would need to do is start up when guns fired, continue filming for a second or two after done firing then playback in black and white and have the four tickmarks.

Who knows...been asking for this for several years....mebbe, mebbe not.
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: majic on April 26, 2002, 09:47:25 AM
I would love to have a seperate guncam, but I imagine it wouldn't be too high on HTC's priority list...
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Revvin on April 26, 2002, 10:06:13 AM
Do we need another app or just maybe just some additions to what we have now. Perhaps a 'gunsight' view could be added to the AH Filmer and also some after effects in the editor to add grayscale and noise?
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Wotan on April 26, 2002, 12:03:42 PM
it works with ah and looks exactly the same as it does with wbs. It also works with il2.
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Wlfgng on April 26, 2002, 12:21:42 PM
IMO AHFilm is much beter in quality, editing, options, viewing angles, etc..
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: popeye on April 26, 2002, 12:36:25 PM
I'd like a "guncam mode" for the AH film recorder, that would start when the guns are fired, and run for a preset (adjustable) time after the trigger is released.  (As long as it wouldn't produce any warps or glitches in flight.)
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Wotan on April 26, 2002, 01:02:59 PM
hes is talking about a "guncam" not a film.

the way it works ois when you pull the trigger a series of .jpg images are taken, you the covert the jpgs to gif then you animate it.

It looks about as close as possile to ww2 guncan images.

I takes a small zoomed image. It only activates when direct x button 1 on your js is pulled.

Its not compairable to the film viewer.


I'll go make one.
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Wotan on April 26, 2002, 01:21:45 PM
Example (http://personal.jax.bellsouth.net/jax/t/y/tyr88/Screens/cam1.gif)

as you can see it not a "film viewer" it only works when trigger is pulled.
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Wlfgng on April 26, 2002, 01:24:13 PM
I should have been more clear.

I know what a guncam is.. used it for a while

IMO the film view is much much better.  
you can crop the view to make it look like a guncam if you want.

The only difference IMO is the gun trigger thing.  In AH Film you wil have to cut out the segments you wish to make guncam films from.  
If you want grainy, gun-cam looking shots.. you can do that also.
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Taiaha on April 26, 2002, 02:24:03 PM
Thanks Wotan, that's exactly what I wanted to know.  I also just came across a couple of examples from WW2OL so I assumed it was a straight screen capture utility rather than specific to any one appplication.

Wlfgng, how do you get those kinds of effects with the AH Viewer?  Or are you talking about running the film through a third party application?  If so, what do you use?
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Wlfgng on April 26, 2002, 02:26:09 PM
The cut and past part is built into AHViewer.. as are all the angles etc,

the B&W and graininess are from After Effects.

the part I really like is the fact that you get a streaming movie instead of having to peice together jpg's.

take a look at the movie that is posted in.. uh..

that other thread...by "Obear1971"....not bad for a quickie :)
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: funkedup on April 27, 2002, 06:18:34 PM
What Yeager said.
Title: Guncam Utility
Post by: Wotan on April 27, 2002, 11:10:33 PM
i have made over 75 ah films in the ah film viewer. If yo are looking to just do quick guncan stuff nothing beats the utility.

it works in wwiiol il2 wbs fa ah or anygame where the fire button is mapped through the direct x joystick button.

40 sec i can have a 30-45 sec guncam gif done. Do it in ah film viewer tell how long it takes.

Ah film viewer is great in and of itself but dont dismiss the guncam utility. It works as designed.