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Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 26, 2002, 09:42:14 AM
Say HiTech is it possible to get a rearview mirror installed on the Razorback Jug's.  It would help know whats on one's six a little better then having to "wag the tail" to see whats behinde you.

Also a paddel blade prop would be a nice feature for the D-11
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Sancho on April 26, 2002, 10:34:08 AM
That's a 63rd FS jug. ;)  UN-T(bar) "Ann K" flown by Lt. Robert B Campbell Jr.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Monk on April 26, 2002, 11:15:02 AM
Nice Pic, Nuch:D
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 26, 2002, 11:49:19 AM
Sancho,

It was not UN-T tail # 226258 In Silver with D-Day stripes.. Ann K was in Drab Brown with D-Day Stripes and I beleive Campbell was KIA I think he had 4 kills to his name.. as well.

I do think the 63rd had the most Aces in a squad..for a Jug Pilot

Nuch
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: ra on April 26, 2002, 11:52:19 AM
A lot of planes had rear view mirrors.  I think HT once said he looked into what it would take to add and decided it would tax the FE too much.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Virage on April 26, 2002, 12:41:41 PM
He obviously needs that rearview mirror.  Wish we did.  The rearviews in AH are too good imo.  Hmm, I wonder how the community would react to realistic head placements?
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Sky Viper on April 26, 2002, 12:51:04 PM
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Originally posted by Virage
He obviously needs that rearview mirror.  Wish we did.  The rearviews in AH are too good imo.  Hmm, I wonder how the community would react to realistic head placements?


The rear views may be a bit better than real life, but I can't move my head as fast in AH as I can in RL.
IMHO, it ballances out.

I think what HT said was that rear view mirrors tax the Frame Rate. I guess that would fall into FE but FR is more specific.

That said, I would also like to see the mirrors...Hogs, Jugs, Spits, etc...perhaps in time. :D


Viper
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: gofaster on April 26, 2002, 01:15:10 PM
If I recall, the early mark Spitfires used automobile mirrors (Rolls Royce, I believe) mounted high on the front windscreen rail above the pilot's head.  Later, special rearview mirrors came standard from the factory for Spitfires as well as other aircraft.

In my opinion, a mirror feature would be hard on slower machines and would tax the graphics system more than it would help gameplay.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 26, 2002, 01:47:31 PM
Wweellll...guess they could give it as an option ::grins:: PPLLLLEAAASSSSEEEE!!!

Also Gofaster...You wouldn't have the problem if weren't in South Florida :) I wonder if they can count??
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Sancho on April 26, 2002, 03:35:33 PM
where did that photo come from?
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: ygsmilo on April 26, 2002, 03:46:37 PM
If you got a con in your rearview mirror ------ your already dead.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 26, 2002, 04:34:31 PM
Sancho,

Try Web-birds.com.. They have ton's of pic's from the 56th FG.

I'm a P-47 junkie.. I got tons of websites. If you e-mail me I'll send you what links I have. I even have a site with runup charts..ect..

BTW what side does your squad fly on??

My addy is pwilson8@cfl.rr.com
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Sancho on April 26, 2002, 10:46:43 PM
we currently fly bishop in the MA.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 29, 2002, 01:48:49 PM
Sancho..

I stand corrected.. Ann K was UN-T(bar) was lost on 21 Sept by Ltn Harold Spicer (KIA)

Campbell was KIA in UN-Y (P-47D #42-75870) 15 Aug 44 wich was one of Col. Harold "Bunny" Comstocks A/C.

However I do find this confusing why did Comstock have 4 UN-Y's  Two models were p-47 C's and the other two were P-47D's He also flew UN-Z...now this gets confusing..

Do you have any clue on this subject??
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Daff on April 29, 2002, 01:58:04 PM
"However I do find this confusing why did Comstock have 4 UN-Y's Two models were p-47 C's and the other two were P-47D's He also flew UN-Z...now this gets confusing.. "

If a plane got damaged and written off, upgraded or similar, the pilot would get the same ID again. It was quite common.
Look at http://www.pyker.dircon.co.uk and there's a almost complete list of all 56th FG planes.
He most likely flew Zemke's plane (UN-Z) if his own was unservicable.

Daff
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: funkedup on April 29, 2002, 02:40:09 PM
I'm pretty sure the mirror on the Jug was the same model used on the Spitfire.  I asked a Spitfire ace (Jerry Collinsworth) about that mirror and he said it was useful on the ground or for formation flying but worthless in combat.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Mitsu on April 29, 2002, 02:45:31 PM
I would like to see P-47B Razorback for PAW...

-Mitsu
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Furious on April 29, 2002, 03:31:07 PM
Man...    you guys are always ruining perfectly good landscape pictures with those ugly POS's.



F.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: -ammo- on April 29, 2002, 04:40:24 PM
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Originally posted by Mitsu
I would like to see P-47B Razorback for PAW...

-Mitsu


Not me, the B model wasnt used in service in the PAC theatre. The B didnt even make it out of the United states for combat service.
Title: P-47D Razorback RearView Mirror
Post by: Buzzbait on April 29, 2002, 05:16:54 PM
S!

Rgr Ammo.

P-47B`s were used by 56th F.G. in New York State for training purposes, but were left behind when they shipped out to Britain.  They picked up C models there in November of `42, but the group did not see combat till the spring of `43 and these C models saw under 5 combat missions before they were upgraded to D standard.   The early to mid Razorback D models did the heavy lifting in air combat for the 8th USAAF...   :)

With and without Paddleblade.

As far as I know, no C models saw service in the PAC Theater either.   Lot`s of early Razorback D`s tho.