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Title: buying a tv
Post by: loser on April 26, 2002, 10:40:08 PM
hey gents

im looking into buying a new tv

im looking for something in a 27 or 32 inch.  I am also looking to spend 500-700 dollars Canadian

any suggestions..i am particularly interested in the JVC and Panasonic models.

what the heck sould i get?

please gents, if your are going to tell me what you have/what to buy, please explain why...


thx in advance
Title: buying a tv
Post by: majic on April 26, 2002, 10:53:47 PM
"I am also looking to spend 500-700 dollars Canadian "

How much is that in real money?  :)
Title: buying a tv
Post by: stat2000 on April 26, 2002, 11:24:38 PM
JVC is the best Tv you can buy for the money......panasonics suck...I used to sell tv's for like 2 years....jvc's have fewest repairs and most features bar none.....get a d-series if you can afford it.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Eagler on April 27, 2002, 08:05:25 AM
get a flat screen 32"
Sony - but I think that is over your limit
Title: buying a tv
Post by: lord dolf vader on April 27, 2002, 08:48:13 AM
what he said about jvcs is correct they are the best overall price for the benifit generaly also hitachi and mitubishi are excelent do not buy a rca,ge,phillips sanyo,sharp,dewoo ect ect . but also what eagler said is correct, there are 2 ways to make a tv the cheap way and the sony way. ill spare you the details but sonys are head and shoulders above the rest ( and priced that way)   get the flatist screen you can ( look for returned models or demos tvs last so long now you really lose nothing). also pay some attention to the connectors. dont let them sell you 30 buck monster cable but the lowest grade shielded (it will be noticably thicker wire) will improve you picture. also use the highest quality input/output your choice has for instance if you have satilite you will have a s video input it will give you a small improvment over the old composit imputs ( clearer picture more scan lines but not alot ) for audio cables buy the cheapest aftermarked and you will be fine sound on a tv sucks anyway.
if you have a chance to get one with the new component imputs do so you can tell them easily there will be a red green and blue input that look just like old rca connectors they arent used alot now but will in the future for hd tv.  

piss on the warentee. it aint worth it.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Kratzer on April 27, 2002, 12:52:35 PM
Sony trinitron!
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Skuzzy on April 27, 2002, 01:51:34 PM
Gotta go with Sony, but they are pricey.  I have a Sony 32" WEGA XBR2 in my bedroom, and the picture is beyond belief, especially when fed a 16:9 picture signal from a Sony DVD player through the component inputs.  The XBR basically goes into double scan line mode when it detects a 16:9 picture and I just had to get a magnifying glass out to see if I could see any gaps inbetween the scan lines.  Guess what,..there aint any.  Simply amazing.
The picture rivals and surpasses many HDTV's I have seen.

The new set replaced a 27" Sony console I got in 1982, which was still working as good as the day I got it, but the old tuner could not get the newer channels, so I donated it to a church when I got the new Sony.

Hard to go wrong with Sony.  Even if you can find a used one, you probably will be ahead of the game.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Staga on April 27, 2002, 02:47:38 PM
Panasonic has good pic in it (Quintrix tube) but it kinda sucks to carry it to the repair-shop once in a year (power switch and couple condersators don't last longer).
I bought a Philips wide-screen 'cause I got tired to repair that junk.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Creamo on April 27, 2002, 04:28:31 PM
Sony is very expensive, but they are hard to beat.

On a budget, I asked my brother who owns all the cool 60" stuff, and said there is like 3 makers that make most TV's, regardless of name brand stamped on the box.

I went to Wal-Mart for a 25" bedroom TV, and for dirt cheap ($169 I think) bought a "Orion". It is just fantastic. Course features add cost, but it runs cable like a champ. Why you need PIP and such I don’t know.

If they make a 27" + Orion, buy it.

Additionally, my ex-roommate has been building and sending computers to guys in Europe. Apparently everything outside of the USA is expensive, and with airline shipping discounts, they are WAY ahead.

You might want to make a contact and buy through that venue, although in Canada, it might not be as lucrative.

Still, buy cheap, in my case, I’m very happy with it.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: eskimo2 on April 27, 2002, 04:44:21 PM
Buy what's on sale!

Just look for a great deal.
Even the cheap stuff lasts for years, but stay away from projection units, they all break down a lot (says a repair-man/relative).

eskimo
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Skuzzy on April 27, 2002, 07:06:56 PM
Uhmmm,..I have a projection set in the living room.  Pioneer Elite, and never have had a problem with it.  I have had it for 9 years.  You do have to be careful on projection sets.
Only a few around I would recommend.  I would not touch a HDTV projection set that does not have 9 inch tubes wth glass lenses.

Most of them have 7" tubes and plastic lenses, which is fine for regular broadcast NTSC/PAL stuff, but not for HDTV, due to the increased number of scan lines, the tubes run much hotter and the 7" tubes do not have the granularity to produce really sharp pictures in HDTV mode.  Sort of like using a 15 inch monitor at 1600x1200 resolution.  Its just not as sharp and clear as a 21 inch monitor at the same resolution.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Jack55 on April 27, 2002, 07:44:11 PM
Sony, no baloney.  Forget the built in stereo speakers.  They are worthless.  Get the mono version.  It sounds about the same and costs less.  I have it hooked up to a HIFI stereo VCR and my home sound system anyway.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: AKIron on April 29, 2002, 04:54:50 PM
Have a 27" JVC I've had for 10 years. Still works like new, dang it, I want a bigger one. ;)
Title: creamo's right
Post by: midnight Target on April 29, 2002, 05:10:06 PM
I just bought a 27" Quazar at COSTCO for 229. Stereo, AVI jacks, S-jack and all. Nice picture too.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: SKurj on April 29, 2002, 05:15:05 PM
I work at a tv repair shop...

Sony, probably the most common set to be brought in for repair... maybe related to the #'s sold....

Least common... Toshiba, Zenith

I've seen 1.5 yr old 32" Sony's needin a new tube....

Seriously.. if you gonna buy a tv, spend no more than you can afford every five yrs...

New sets don't last..


SKurj
Title: buying a tv
Post by: NUTTZ on April 29, 2002, 05:23:19 PM
Sony used to be pretty good stuff, Until they started putting in Goldstar components.

I'd have to say JVC is pretty good and inexpensive.

Trust me I like quality in my electronics, SONY Quality just isn't there anymore. Also stay away from RCA tv's  CRAP IMO.


NUTTZ


Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Gotta go with Sony, but they are pricey.  I have a Sony 32" WEGA XBR2 in my bedroom, and the picture is beyond belief, especially when fed a 16:9 picture signal from a Sony DVD player through the component inputs.  The XBR basically goes into double scan line mode when it detects a 16:9 picture and I just had to get a magnifying glass out to see if I could see any gaps inbetween the scan lines.  Guess what,..there aint any.  Simply amazing.
The picture rivals and surpasses many HDTV's I have seen.

The new set replaced a 27" Sony console I got in 1982, which was still working as good as the day I got it, but the old tuner could not get the newer channels, so I donated it to a church when I got the new Sony.

Hard to go wrong with Sony.  Even if you can find a used one, you probably will be ahead of the game.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Wlfgng on April 29, 2002, 05:49:17 PM
have had my large screen Toshiba for years...
still kicking and I like the picture better than most new TV's.

don't figure
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Sandman on April 29, 2002, 07:34:30 PM
I just bought one of these 2 months ago:

(http://www.jvc.com/images/zoom/av-32230_zoom.jpg)  (http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL026135&page=2)

JVC Model AV-32230

32" Diagonal Full Square Dark Tinted Picture Tube
3-Line Digital Comb Filter
Component Video Input
Auto Programming
Hyper Scan High Speed Channel Changer
Super Command Universal Remote Control with TV/VCR and DVD Control Capability
700 Lines Horizontal Resolution
15 Color Icon-based Super Command OSD:English, French, Spanish
MTS Stereo w/dbx and SAP
Hyper Surround Sound
TV Speakers On/Off in Menu, Front Firing Bottom Speakers
Audio Output 3.0 Watts x 2 Speakers
Return +
Plug in Menu
Video Status ST/CH/TH
Mult-Function Timer
Sleep Timer
Channel Guard
Closed Caption w/Text
Black Level Expansion
Apacon
V-Chip
XDS Auto Clock Set
3 AV Inputs (2 Rear, 1 Front)
S-Video Input
AV Compu Link EX
Switchable Fixed/Variable Audio Output
RF Input
2 Years Picture Tube, 1 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
Weight 112.8 lbs.
Width 30 1/4"
Height 26 1/4"
Depth 21 1/2"
Power: 125 Watts / 1.8 Amps
Energy Star Compliant


Got it at BEST BUY for about $500. It's a pretty good deal. The JVC Site (http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL026135&page=2) lists it at $649 MSRP.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Skuzzy on April 29, 2002, 07:37:21 PM
Nuttz,..have you cracked open the XBR2 models?  I have,..uh,..they are still quality sets.  I do not have a clue about the regular line.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Elfenwolf on April 29, 2002, 07:59:27 PM
Skuzzy, living in Texas your eyes are permanently damaged from sandstorms and trying to focus on those itty bittly little power poles on the sides of the hiways. Sorry, bud, but EVERYBODY who is ANYBODY out here in California knows Sonys suck as much as the Cowboys do. I'll bet you make your kids watch an RCA set too. Sheeesh, Skuzzy. Get with the friggin program.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Skuzzy on April 30, 2002, 11:14:59 AM
Fishin again elfy?  :D  Need better bait.  You presume I think the folks from another state are anymore in the know than any other state.  Nice try though,...I give it a 4.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: AKIron on April 30, 2002, 11:27:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Skuzzy, living in Texas your eyes are permanently damaged from sandstorms and trying to focus on those itty bittly little power poles on the sides of the hiways. Sorry, bud, but EVERYBODY who is ANYBODY out here in California knows Sonys suck as much as the Cowboys do. I'll bet you make your kids watch an RCA set too. Sheeesh, Skuzzy. Get with the friggin program.


Texas has the biggest power poles anywhere! :p
Title: buying a tv
Post by: SKurj on April 30, 2002, 01:46:42 PM
Oh yeah...

27" RCA or GE... count on a 125$ repair bill within 2 yrs of its coming out of warranty... 99% of them require this repair.


SKurj
Title: buying a tv
Post by: loser on April 30, 2002, 03:39:38 PM
went with the JVC D series... i sprung for the extra bucks.  i am happy so far.
Title: buying a tv
Post by: stat2000 on April 30, 2002, 11:57:04 PM
Someone mentioned something about mitsubishi.....well good luck finding a new one they havent made tubes in oh about 3 years....only mits you'll find out there new are projections
Title: buying a tv
Post by: Nash on May 01, 2002, 04:07:19 AM
Hey Skurj - you're just the guy I wanna talk to. :)

I've got an old (prolly 10 years) Phillips TV. I like it but it broke. When I turn it on, I get no picture and it just makes this sort of humming sound.

I've got a stand-in, but I like my old TV better. What's the diagnosis? Do repairmen charge for estimates? Whatcha think the damage is?