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Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: H. Godwineson on May 01, 2002, 10:52:31 AM

Several people in various threads have mentioned one of a kind prototypes or low-production number spinoffs of World War II fighters or bombers that never entered combat.  

Theoretically speaking, if HTC were to offer to set up a combat area specifically for such aircraft, which ones would you like to see included?  And Why?  Just for funsies!


Regards, Shuckins

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: popeye on May 01, 2002, 11:19:05 AM

Do335.

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Ripsnort on May 01, 2002, 11:28:36 AM

F7F Tigercat!
F8F Bearcat!

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: eddiek on May 01, 2002, 11:50:50 AM

P-47J
P-38K

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Sikboy on May 01, 2002, 11:52:29 AM

Although I don't think it's a good idea (just want the record to reflect that lol):
Grumman XF-5F Skyrocket. My favorite WWII Era plane, hands down.
and the Heinkle HE100 (although I'm sure it woud be undermodled :rolleyes: )


-Sikboy

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Taiaha on May 01, 2002, 01:20:26 PM

Where to start, where to start.

Second the 335, although I'd like to see that as a perk plane in the MA.

I'm thinking of all those really whacked out Luftie ideas that never got off the ground, or did so in only limited numbers.

The HO 229 (any of you remember _Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe_?  The 229 was my favorite ride).

All of those great 262 variants (how about the one with the 75mm cannon that they had to abandon because the muzzle flash blinded the pilot?  Or the two-man glass nose fighter bomber (I've a model of that one waiting on my shelf)).

I'd also like to see the ME 410, although I have high hopes that will one day make it into the MA, since it was produced in numbers equivalent to the 110G.

I think this idea of a "what if" arena is a fantastic one.  I can't see it happening any time soon, since HTC is geared toward the MA planeset (and rightly so too).  But it would be something interesting to begin work on.

Title: Secret Weapons of ze Luftwaffe
Post by: devious on May 01, 2002, 02:31:54 PM

Love the idea. Get me a Do-335...

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on May 01, 2002, 02:56:08 PM

Pyörremyrsky: A Finnish plane built around the DB605 engine. The "PM" was actually a better performer than the 109G with the same engine.  Only one prototype was built, first flight on November 21st 1945.

The plane is on display at the Finnish Air Force Museum at Tikkakoski:
http://www.jiop.fi/ksimuseo/vlpy.html

Camo

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Turbot on May 01, 2002, 03:07:09 PM

foo fighter

http://www.skiesare.demon.co.uk/foofight.htm

or also 335

(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0030.jpg)

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Sandman on May 01, 2002, 03:11:40 PM

(http://www.microsoft.com/games/crimsonskies/img/screens/Kestrel_firing.jpg)

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Otto on May 01, 2002, 03:44:12 PM

I'd just like to see it happen first.   Then I'll worry about which planes....:D

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Shuckins on May 01, 2002, 05:26:06 PM

Some prototypes would be relatively easy to work up into a flight model.  Some extrapolations would have to be made of course, but it would be impossible to achieve complete accuracy anyway.

A rew that would be possible;

     F4U-3
     XF6F-6
     DO-335
     ME-109 K-14

I'm sure there are others.  Flight test data should be available on these.

Regards, Shuckins

Title: Look up Ugly in the dictionary
Post by: midnight Target on May 01, 2002, 05:44:50 PM

And a picture of this is next to the word..........WTF are you thinking Sikboy

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Steven on May 01, 2002, 07:05:20 PM

BEARRRRRRRRCAT!

Tigercat.

AD Skyraider?

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Sikboy on May 01, 2002, 08:36:01 PM

lol, I think it looks badass :) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder indeed.

-Sikboy

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Falcon on May 01, 2002, 08:42:31 PM

Hey sandman,

Is that a CS mod you were flying? Where can I get mods for CS?


Falcon

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Sancho on May 01, 2002, 10:33:16 PM

being a jug fan, I'd have to say that this hypothetical arena would have to include THIS plane:

(http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p72-1.jpg)
Republic XP-72 (http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p72.htm)

The version with the 4 37mm cannons. :cool: Of course, it would be fun and all, but I'd like to see a more well rounded early war planeset completed first.  Maybe after AH version 2.0. :)

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Pongo on May 01, 2002, 10:54:04 PM

(http://www3.telus.net/pongo/perk1.jpg)

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: milnko on May 02, 2002, 09:16:32 AM

Gloster Meteor

The Allies need a counter to the Me262 and Ar234

Title: Re: Look up Ugly in the dictionary
Post by: Mudshark on May 02, 2002, 09:32:32 AM

Quote

Originally posted by midnight Target
And a picture of this is next to the word..........WTF are you thinking Sikboy

I feel certain that Sikboy is thinking of "Blackhawk" who, with his international squadron of do-gooders, used the SkyRocket to defend the sky against Nazi aggressors.

HAWKAAAAAAAAAA

(anyone else remember Blackhawk? Or how he switched to flying the XF-90 in the 50's?


Mudshark

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Samm on May 02, 2002, 09:52:13 AM

It would be nice to see the ki87 and the Shinden modeled .

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: deSelys on May 02, 2002, 10:00:54 AM

Do-335 Pfeil for sure.
What about a Ju-88/Fw190 or Bf109 Mistel combination? Would be fun to blow up CVs with :)


Sandman, where does this pic come from? Crimson Skies? :D


Oh, since we're at it, it would be fun to have a (perked) Rocketeer backpack rocket, so after bailing we could chase our killer, hang onto the canopy frame and snuff the pilot with a pointblank C.96 Mauser headshot....Mmmmokay, that isn't a good idea :D

Title: Combat Arena for Prototypes that Never Saw Production
Post by: Croper on May 02, 2002, 11:08:07 AM

Gloster Vampire or the Mig 15!