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Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 02, 2002, 01:26:14 AM
Tour 27 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour27/tour27.htm)

Enjoy!

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: gatt on May 02, 2002, 03:39:38 AM
Thx DJ, very interesting! I miss those k/d stats for pilots ... :(  ;)
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Duedel on May 02, 2002, 05:35:43 AM
thx!!!! I really appreciate ur work.
HT, is it possible to place a link to this file on ur home page?
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: streakeagle on May 02, 2002, 06:07:08 AM
Interesting that the only aircraft to make the top 10 on both lists (number of kills and kills-to-deaths) is the Fw190D-9...

Perk the Dora!

La-7 deserves mentioning since it barely missed the top 10 for kills-to-deaths.

Fw190A-5 is impressive considering the number of "superior" aircraft that did much worse. Must be flown primarily by superior pilots ;)

Next closest plane in terms of winning in both categories is the Yak-9... where are the Brits and the Yanks?
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Hortlund on May 02, 2002, 06:23:01 AM
the C-47 has killed more B-17s than the 202 :)

and the C-47 has killed twice as many La7s as the 109E has.

These stats are hillarious.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: thrila on May 02, 2002, 06:45:16 AM
Anyone notice the 1.202 k/d for the hurri2c:eek:
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Duedel on May 02, 2002, 06:55:34 AM
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Originally posted by streakeagle

Fw190A-5 is impressive considering the number of "superior" aircraft that did much worse. Must be flown primarily by superior pilots ;)


Yes, i think the average A5 pilot has an outstanding SA and a really good feeling for his E state. They must be superior! ;)
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Preon1 on May 02, 2002, 08:20:56 AM
I just think it's funny that c47s shot down 262s

(HOW EMBARRASING :mad: )
Title: Thanks Deja!
Post by: Toad on May 02, 2002, 09:07:14 AM
Perk it! Perk it! We've GOT to perk it!

Well.. perk SOMETHING anyway!
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Soviet on May 02, 2002, 09:15:29 AM
WTG FW-190A5 Pilots! :)
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: HFMudd on May 02, 2002, 09:44:18 AM
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Duedel spake thus:
Yes, i think the average A5 pilot has an outstanding SA and a really good feeling for his E state. They must be superior!


Couldn't agree more!  In general my feeling is that I have run myself out of E and my SA tells me that the Spit behind me is about to eat me for lunch. ;)
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: HFMudd on May 02, 2002, 09:47:24 AM
On a more serious note, it appears to me that the ENY value of the Bf 110G-2 needs to be moved from, I think, the 20 it is now to maybe 30.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: mason22 on May 02, 2002, 09:57:11 AM
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Originally posted by thrila
Anyone notice the 1.202 k/d for the hurri2c:eek:


do not under estimate the Hurri II !! it can eat spits all day long.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Turbot on May 02, 2002, 12:48:01 PM
Good work.  How did you generate this?
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Midnight on May 02, 2002, 05:14:21 PM
P-51D is the top bomber killer again....
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Wotan on May 02, 2002, 05:47:03 PM
:rolleyes: even the fw 190f8 has a better k/d vrs buffs then a p51

quantity has a quality of its own I guess
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: HFMudd on May 02, 2002, 06:19:13 PM
Quantity and quality...

Was it Rommel who said, "We may kill the American tanks 10 to 1, but there always seems to be that 10th one."

Or something to that effect.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: ZeroPing on May 02, 2002, 09:08:23 PM
Spitfire Mk IX 24157 23515 1.027 10.65 10.65  WOWZER
BTW hurri C owns anything on the deck and to the niki pliots... thnx for the perks u give us
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Turbot on May 02, 2002, 09:11:00 PM
There are some really good planes in the stable not getting flight time.  Just because they have high ENY people think they suck, nothing could be farther from the truth.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Eaglecz on May 03, 2002, 02:59:28 AM
Dejavu are you still working on most kills IN stat ?
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 03, 2002, 03:30:22 AM
Fw-190A5 drivers you say??

:::Raises hand:::  :cool:

Wonderful AC
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Apar on May 03, 2002, 04:54:29 AM
In fighter vs fighter stats 190a8 is ranked higher than the a5 with more kills but slightly lesser K/D ratio.

WTG a8 pilots :D
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Steven on May 03, 2002, 11:48:19 AM
What I noticed is that, though I've heard some complaints about the capabilities of the Hellcat, the F6F-5 has a .86 K/D ratio but it's the F4U-1 that is more than breaking even at 1.16 K/D.  However, the F6F-5 tips the scales way in its favor in total kills and I'm not sure if that has an impact due to the makeup of the pilots.

DejaVu, I always look forward to your stats and am glad you take the time to do this for the community.  Thank you.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Steven on May 03, 2002, 12:02:52 PM
After posting I got curious about something, why do I see so many Spitfires?   Well, in adding the totals for a couple aircraft that has more than one variant but which wears the same exact label, I quickly came up with:

Spit = 16.76% of all kills
P-51 = 9.12% of all kills
F4U = 7.87% of all kills
P-47 = 3.17% of all kills

The Spitfire totals do not count the Seafire or the Mk14 and the F4U totals do not count the dash4.  If you do add in the Seafire (because it's really not a different aircraft, just a variant), the Spitfire kills in the arena total 20.41% of all kills.  That's why it seems a Spitfest to me in the MA.  Every fifth kill in the MA is made by some variant of Spitfire.  

I wonder what aircraft deaths would reveal.

Heh heh, this is fun.  Spit, LA7, N1K and P51s total 40.83% of the kills in the MA.  
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 03, 2002, 12:23:06 PM
BTW.. these tables are present for all tours since tour 15.

Tour 26 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour26/tour26.htm)
Tour 25 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour25/tour25.htm)
Tour 24 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour24/tour24.htm)
Tour 23 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour23/tour23.htm)
Tour 22 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour22/tour22.htm)
Tour 21 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour21/tour21.htm)
Tour 20 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour20/tour20.htm)
Tour 19 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour19/tour19.htm)
Tour 18 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour18/tour18.htm)
Tour 17 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour17/tour17.htm)
Tour 16 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour16/tour16.htm)
Tour 15 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour15/tour15.htm)
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Sikboy on May 03, 2002, 12:31:10 PM
Thanks DJ
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: SirLoin on May 03, 2002, 12:37:04 PM
And this month's winner is.....


The TEMPEST!!!!..Muhahaha!
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 03, 2002, 12:45:36 PM
Me262 K/D (overall): 6.57
Me262 K/D without Fester's numbers: 5.17

The man was 505:11 in an Me262.  He slightly skewed the numbers.

F6F-5 K/D (overall): .878
F6F-5 K/D without my numbers: .875

Proof that we can all make a difference if you just add more decimal places.

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: mrsid2 on May 03, 2002, 01:34:37 PM
Me262 is an awesome tool for players who have 3-4 second lag.. The enemy will die before they see the 262 come.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Mitsu on May 03, 2002, 02:28:34 PM
WTG Ki-61 drivers. :)

-Mitsu
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Hristo on May 03, 2002, 03:41:56 PM
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Originally posted by mrsid2
Me262 is an awesome tool for players who have 3-4 second lag.. The enemy will die before they see the 262 come.


Exactly !  

I even remember Galland mentioning this somewhere.
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Hajo on May 03, 2002, 10:00:49 PM
Apar!  I agree, A8 pilots seem to have better stats :p  Only soul Pilots climb into the A8 knowing they won't outrun many aircraft, they won't out turn any aircraft......and they won't outclimb any aircraft either.  A8 pilots fly with the stall horn blaring in their ears, a full box of depends, insurance paid in full.and a boxed lunch. :D
Title: Tour 27 Fighter vs Fighter stats
Post by: Steven on May 05, 2002, 10:38:56 AM
I just learned yesterday that Seafires wear the "Spit" tag.  That means 20% of everything killed in the MA is owed to one label, the "Spit."  No wonder this game strikes me of late as being Spitfires High!