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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on May 02, 2002, 04:55:47 PM
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Guess which State?...Already passed and signed by the Gov.
§13810
The Commissioner shall request and obtain information from insurers licensed and doing business in this state regarding any records of slaveholder insurance policies issued by any predecessor corporation during the slavery era.
§13811
The Commissioner shall obtain the names of any slaveholders or slaves described in those insurance records, and shall make the information available to the public and the Legislature.
§13812
Each insurer licensed and doing business in this state shall research and report to the Commissioner with respect to any records within the insurer’s possession or knowledge relating to insurance policies issued to slaveholders that provided converage for damage to or death or their slaves.
§13813
Descendants of slaves, whose ancestors were defined as private property, dehumanized, divided from their families, forced to perform labor without appropriate compensation or benefits, and whose ancestors’ owners were compensated for damages by insurers, are entitled to full disclosure.
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left coast?
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It is worth remembering that, if this lawsuit is successful, the cost will be past on to the rest of us. Does anyone belive the insurance companies are going to take the hit :). I don't even know what my great grandaddys name was. For all I know he may have been an abolitionist. Why should I pay for this bull?
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Was there any justification for this?
Kanthy
Originally posted by midnight Target
Guess which State?...Already passed and signed by the Gov.
§13810
The Commissioner shall request and obtain information from insurers licensed and doing business in this state regarding any records of slaveholder insurance policies issued by any predecessor corporation during the slavery era.
§13811
The Commissioner shall obtain the names of any slaveholders or slaves described in those insurance records, and shall make the information available to the public and the Legislature.
§13812
Each insurer licensed and doing business in this state shall research and report to the Commissioner with respect to any records within the insurer’s possession or knowledge relating to insurance policies issued to slaveholders that provided converage for damage to or death or their slaves.
§13813
Descendants of slaves, whose ancestors were defined as private property, dehumanized, divided from their families, forced to perform labor without appropriate compensation or benefits, and whose ancestors’ owners were compensated for damages by insurers, are entitled to full disclosure.
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Which lawsuit?
I didn't see anything about anyone paying anyone any money...
The lost money will be in the insurance companies wasted time looking up records from that far back for historical purposes.
Kanthy
Originally posted by easymo
It is worth remembering that, if this lawsuit is successful, the cost will be past on to the rest of us. Does anyone belive the insurance companies are going to take the hit :). I don't even know what my great grandaddys name was. For all I know he may have been an abolitionist. Why should I pay for this bull?
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Kalifornia
Even my bleeding heart sister is pissed about this. Greyout Davis is going DOWN.
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Best I can recall..........
This bill was implemented originally by Tom Hayden, and addresses both Holocaust survivors and Families, and Former Slaves families and their ability to access information about the past practices of these companies.
The bill also required all insurance companies who had transactions prior to and during WW2 with european concerns to make their records available.
If this is limited to the access of information it is a very good thing.
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Kanthy where do the insurance companies get the money they have wasted looking up this data? Who pays for the salaries of the state senators and their staff and the operations and maintenance budget for the senate while they were coming up with this worthless legislation? Who will pay for the insurance companies to defend themselves from the frivolous lawsuits which will inevitably result? Who will pay for any settlements or awards from those suits? Who will pay for salaries of court officials and operations and maintenance of court facilities wasted on this BS?
*Raises Hand*
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Tom Hayden?
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Originally posted by easymo
Tom Hayden?
Surely you jest. Also known as the ex Mr. Jane Fonda:eek:
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I thought he was over in Moscow, sobbing over the downfall of communism.
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Senate Bill 2199
http://www.insurance.ca.gov/SEIR/SenateBill2199.pdf
If both houses approve a bill, it then goes to the Governor. The Governor has three choices. The Governor can sign the bill into law, allow it to become law without his or her signature, or veto it. A governor's veto can be overridden by a two thirds vote in both houses. Most bills go into effect on the first day of January of the next year. Urgency measures take effect immediately after they are signed or allowed to become law without signature.
Senate Floor 5/25/00 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/99-00/bill/sen/sb_2151-2200/sb_2199_vote_20000525_0100PM_sen_floor.html) - 23 yes, 9 no - 72%
Assembly Floor 8/29/00 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/99-00/bill/sen/sb_2151-2200/sb_2199_vote_20000829_1135PM_asm_floor.html) - 56 yes, 19 no - 75%
Senate Floor 8/31/00 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/99-00/bill/sen/sb_2151-2200/sb_2199_vote_20000831_0323PM_sen_floor.html) - 25 yes, 3 no - 89%
Davis had no choice but to sign the bill. Be sure to write to your Assemblyman or Senator to voice your displeasure.
In case you're curious:
Here's the list of slaves:
http://www.insurance.ca.gov/SEIR/SlaveryEraInsuranceRegistryBySlave.PDF
Here's the list of slave owners:
http://www.insurance.ca.gov/SEIR/SlaveryEraInsuranceRegistryBySlaveholder.PDF