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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Sachs on May 02, 2002, 07:56:09 PM
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I remember you were saying that you were working on getting the F8 some rockets. Is this still in the works? As of right now the plane still has the same value and has no rockets. Any word on when this might be implemented? Thanks
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This is the only thing that really pisses me off, it's almost as if the HTC team don't care about the FW-190F8s realistic armorment. Some people squeak about it not being common or something but some Allied planes have fantasy loadouts that were either never carried or carried very rarely or never carried together
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Fw 190 F8 could carry...
*24xR4/M rockets
*14xRBS B/F21 rocket bombs
*4xWGr.28 rockets
*12xPanzerblitz anti-tank rockets
*SG 113 A
Fw 190F-8/U1 -long range fighter-bomber could carry 2x250 kg and 1x500 kg bombload...but when we will see this realistic armament at game :(
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Originally posted by Dr Zhivago
Fw 190F-8/U1 -long range fighter-bomber could carry 2x250 kg and 1x500 kg bombload...but when we will see this realistic armament at game :(
Never. HTC hates the Luftwaffe, Hates 190s, and he hates you too.
-Sikboy
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What he really hates is people trying to pass one-off prototype loadouts as something that was in mass production.
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Fw 190F-8/U1 was just prototype but Fw 190G3 could carry this 500kg + 2x250kg fantasy bomb load and modified version could carry up to 1800kg...
And in February 1945 the LW received 115 Fw190 F8s with Panzerblitz 1 rocket system... and still no rockets at F8 :o:mad:
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sikboy your comments on how HTC hates LW etc are probably doing the exact oppersite to what we want!
When HTC reads crap like that he probably thinks 'screw you' and shuffles it to the bottom of the to-do list!
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WTG sikboy!
And on an obvious "stink bait" too!
Are you going to have one of those photos taken where you're standing with the hanging trophy holding a rod in your hand?
:)
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This is a post about an existing plane. Getting tired of the fediddleing "High" jackers in here. Simple question FW-190 F8 is it getting rockets or no? Not a G series an F series. Sheesh.
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Sachs, better get used to the constant hijacks of Sikboy in all and every thread aporting nothing but crap.
The 190F8 loadout has been discused extensively some months ago and it really seems to be of lower priority than just adding more eyecandy art to the Spits cockpit ...
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
Sachs, better get used to the constant hijacks of Sikboy in all and every thread aporting nothing but crap.
Yep, I'll hijack any thread that aports nothing but crap
The 190F8 loadout has been discused extensively some months ago and it really seems to be of lower priority than just adding more eyecandy art to the Spits cockpit ...
Yep, because HTC hates the Luftwaffe, Hates the 190, and hates you too.
-Sikboy
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Yes, we need Panzer Blitz rockets for the F-8. With out the rockets, the F-8 doesn't serve too much of a purspoe. These rockets were a very common loadout for the F-8's. I would like those other loadout's Dr Zhivago mentioned, but i am pretty sure they were only protoype's, will have to look into it more...
Oh, and dont mind Sikboy, let's not forget...
CPID's (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8318&highlight=Offensive)
HTC has done an excellent job of representing all major countires in the War.
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Those other loadouts weren't prototypes, they could be carried but weren't, atleast not much. The Panzer Blitz were more then enough to kill the tanks.
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Originally posted by JoeCrip
Oh, and dont mind Sikboy, let's not forget...
CPID's (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8318&highlight=Offensive)
:confused:
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Never. HTC hates the Luftwaffe, Hates 190s, and he hates you too.
-Sikboy
Well at least they don't hate your parents for thier inbreeding ways, that's a plus :eek:
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Originally posted by milnko
Well at least they don't hate your parents for thier inbreeding ways, that's a plus :eek:
Ehehehehheheheheheheh LOL! good one Milenko :D :cool:
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What.. Sikboy is the result of inbreeding? He's linebred?
Geez Sikboy... I didn't know you were a Luftwaffel!
:)
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Originally posted by milnko
Well at least they don't hate your parents for thier inbreeding ways, that's a plus :eek:
Touche
It's too bad they draw the line at beastiality. Otherwise you guys would have your thousand year reich
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by Toad
What.. Sikboy is the result of inbreeding? He's linebred?
Geez Sikboy... I didn't know you were a Luftwaffel!
:)
I passed the inbreeding test Toad, but I failed my "can't stop whining about the plane models or Flight models test"
-Sikboy
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It's not whining.
It's just something that sounds a lot like it.
Kind of like how a belch and a wet fart can be easily confused, when in polite company.
Although not as much fun, obviously.
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... Pyro mentioned in a thread several months ago that it's something that is on their list of things to model, and that they will try and find time to squeeze the rockets into a release (or something to that effect). Let's not bicker over it again...
mauser
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Nah Toad only Inbreeding is done by the Ami farm animal raping flyers. I think you fall in that same line with him.
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Izzat right? Well, why do all the downed and captured LW's have wool stuck to the studs in their black leather g-strings?
Come to think of it, Goering had an amazing resemblance to a German Landrace......
:)
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I think I'm on to something here...
"sikboy your comments on how HTC hates LW etc are probably doing the exact oppersite to what we want!
When HTC reads crap like that he probably thinks 'screw you' and shuffles it to the bottom of the to-do list!"
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So.. theoretically.. in order to screw those Allied opportunists ;) .. we have to consistently moan in a whiny monotone to add more Spits and USAAF planes??
:D
Reverse psychology can be a dangerous gamble Hazed :D
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ok 2X 2000lbs bombs for the P38!!!!!!!!
HTC hates the FW ???????????????????????????????????
how many models u got there?
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Why does a tank needs bombs anyway :)
HTC protects the FW with a special titanium composite layer
HTC hates LW ?
Last version added two fantastic 110's one off it got great jabo capability
Oh yeah also added another verion off the bf 109
i really feel petty for u LW drivers :rolleyes:
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Bug, if you think the 190 takes alot of dammage you must have been smoking alot of nice stuff lately, the P38 takes FAR more dammage then the 190, the P38 takes as much dammage as LA7's and F6f's, and don't come and tell me the P38 brakes up easily, I've flown it and taken 10+ PURE 20mm and yet made it out alive.
That we have many 190's is true, that HTC hates it is highly unlikely. That it is durable, is a plain lie and lack of knowledge.
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FW190 F8 got additional armor around cockpit, engine and oil tank to protect plane from AA fire during low level missions. Most of the early production series F-8 planes had the additional armor used since the F-3 airframes. For weight reduction and improvement in flight characteristics it was not used in later F-8s. These planes had only the standard Fw 180 A-8 armor.
The armor wich was fitted to F series weighted about 360kg(794lb).
Panzerblitz 1 system was based to R4M air-to-air rockets. They were modified for tank hunting by mounting M8 type warhead wich was able to penetrate 99mm armor. This rocket could destroy tank from range of 200 m. Speed of 490kmh (304mph) shouldnt exceed during firing rockets. Panzerblitz 2 was successor to the Pb 1. Main difference was the hollow-charge warhead wich was able to penetrate 180mm armor.
Fw 190F-8/R1 carried ETC 50 bomb racks for 50 kg bombs wich was later replaced by ETC 71 to carry AB 70 cluster bombs. Some planes was fitted with both types in pairs 2x ETC 50 + 2x ETC 71.
ETC 501 bomb rack was a standard item in A-8 planes so F8 got it and it was able to carry 1000kg (2205lb) load.
Modified Fw 190A-5s could carry one 500kg (1,100 pound) bomb under the fuselage and two 250kg (550 pound) bombs under the wings, but some could carry a single 1,000kg (2,200 pound) bomb.
In an emergency, single Fw 190G planes were adapted for the transportation of high weight bombs under the fuselage (1000, 1600 and 1800 kg). In this modification, the shock absorber leg was strengthened and wheels with strengthened tires were used. Also used were special bomb racks (Schlos 1000 or 2000) in place of the ETC 501 bomb rack.
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Wilbus that's a lie. The P38 takes noway more damage than a FW.
Better don't drink to much it eats away ur brain cells.
Been behind some fw's gave em lot's off hits some escaped, as i was close at d200.
I had once, that i thought: "well that can't fly anymore" only few secs later it turns back against u and goes on and on.
Ok not a tank but very very though.
The FW is what i most fear in the ma no doubt.
It's much better than the 109.
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Oh yeah Bug, the 190 is a great plane if flown the right way, no the easiest plane to fly but very dangerous, as it should be.
What you say about the 190 with "that thing just can't fly any more" I've experienced with the P38 ALOT of times aswell, and I've hit them MORE then 10 times with pure 20mm and seen them fly away, smae thing with the 110 which seems to take as much dammage as the P38 (except for the EXTREEM glass tail). I've even put a 30mm in the wing of a P38 and seen him fly away with a broken engine (I was busy with a spit that time). But PLEASE, don't come and say the P38 can't take a beating, it's in the top 5 when it comes to taking a beating and staying alive.
Btw Bug, sorry for my harsh language before, hope you didn't get offended, if you were, I appologize.
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BUG_EAF322, it is not the case of my paper 190. Some times u may be hitting a plane and doing just no or little damage due packet loose, this is the main problem I have had the last two weeks, an impressive amount of hit sprites, and nothing.
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Ahh no but Toad you know that the Ami flyer's family tree doesn't fork and almost everyone has a resemblance to each other might of been all that inbreeding done in Yeehaw country wouldn't it?
I guess you don't remember they shielded you from the awful truth :D
Oh nah Come on Bug come, the P38 does take a plethora of damage more so than the 190 ,P47, or F4U. I agree with Wilbuz in the fact that you need a long burst even in a 190 to do some damage to the P38, with the horrid connections to HTC lately you need at least 50*20mm bullets to knock something of importance. The P38 as it is right now need 3 well placed 30mm shots to bring it down that's of course unless you aim for the soft center and kill the inbred pilot that flies it :D ,then no more P38 . The trick is aim for the pilot killing him. If by all weird DM glory its left wing breaks off and he bails do us all a favor and blow him to pieces the restless carnivour sheep would like corned beef.
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I didn't say the lightning can't take damage
now the FW isn't made off paper too.
Yeah i guess package losses or so
like i had yesterday i flew a yak 9T to do some groundwork
i smacked all my shells into a ostie from all sides
guess what, the thing didn't blow up :eek:
i don't feel offended wilbus
I think some wabble pilots just overrate themselfes
i really feel petty with em when they try to talk german
LW pilot is not something to be really proud off
they flew some nice machines that's all
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The Osties are something else aren't they. I don't know how much is smaller target (and my crappy marksmanshipt) and how much is armor but... with the 30mm+2x20mm on a 109G6 I can short burst (less than 1/2 second) a PT boat and blow it up almost everytime. I've not sure I've ever got an Ostie with that same combo.
Does anyone know how armor works in AH? I don't mean this to be a whine or a flame of HTC, I'm just kind of curious. (And I also am aware that the low velocity rounds I'm packing in the 109 are not really suited to antiarmor work.)
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Originally posted by HFMudd
Does anyone know how armor works in AH? I don't mean this to be a whine or a flame of HTC, I'm just kind of curious. (And I also am aware that the low velocity rounds I'm packing in the 109 are not really suited to antiarmor work.)
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48482 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48482)
If you can get through this whole thread, you will have earned an advanced degree in AH Armor modeling
-Sikboy
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Hehehe, I know my limits, and german is one of them, won't ever try and talk it (ok,think I've said a few words german in AH) :)
No, the 190 is not made of paper either, can be pretty sturdy sometimes, but far more planes can take more dammage.