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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Mitsu on May 02, 2002, 08:58:09 PM
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Hello,
we are gonna get the early-mid PAW plane sets in v1.10.
IJNAF has gotten A6M2.
They will have 3 fighters.
But what about IJAAF planes?
There is only 1 fighter, Ki-61-I-KAIc (Ki-61-I-Tei).
It is cool plane, but this one is heaviest in Ki-61-I series, it can't turn well like a Ki-43 "Hayabusa", and it can't climb and accelerate well like a Ki-44 "Shoki".
so, I propose to release one of three IJAAF fighters in next version to HTC.
Nakajima Ki-43 "Hayabusa"
(http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/images/Ki-43-III-ko.jpg)
64th Sentai, Ki-43-III-Ko
Ki-43-I...in service 1941
it fits early war.
Ki-43-II...in service 1942
it fits med war.
Ki-43-III...in service 1944
it fits late war.
Nakajima Ki-44 "Shoki"
(http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/images/Ki-44-II-hei.jpg)
Ki-44-II-Hei
Ki-44-I...in service 1942
it fits early war.
Ki-44-II...in service Nov 1942
it fits med-late war.
Kawasaki Ki-61 "Hien"
(http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/images/Ki-61-I-ko.jpg)
68th Sentai, Ki-61-I-Ko
Ki-61-I-Ko...in service Summer 1942
it fits early war.
Ki-61-I-Otsu...in service Summer 1943
it fits med-late war.
Ki-61-I-Hei...in service Sep 1943
it fits med-late war.
Ki-61-II-Kai...in service Sep 1944
it fits late war.
Ki-100-I... in service Mar 1945
it fits late war.
Note:
Ko, Otsu, Hei, Tei?
I used Japanese subtypes.
They're used officially in Imperial Japanese Army.
To see the detail, view the following link (thx FD!):
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47106&highlight=petition
Oh, please, please tell us a hint.
We really need more IJAAF fighters!
sorry for poor english...
Thanks,
Mitsu
P.S
Pyro, I still remember that you said that you wanted to release Ki-44-II-Otsu (40mm rocket model) in beta period! :)
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Mitsu..you deadly dweeb...
this game is not ready for shuch beauty...
(http://www3.telus.net/pongo/perk2.jpg)
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It seems your screen shot needs Super Computer. :p
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Oh! If only there were a Shoki! Would bug the hell outta those P-40 pilots :) :)
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Ki-44-I 40 Ki-44-I built.
SPAN 9.45m
OVER ALL LENGTH 8.85m
OVER ALL HEIGHT (HORIZONTAL ATTITUDE) 3.25m
OVER ALL HEIGHT (TAIL ON GROUND) 3.12m
WING AREA 15.00m^2
ASPECT-RATIO 5.95
"Butterfly-Type" Fowler Flap
TAKE OFF MOVEMENT 20'
LANDING MOVEMENT (MAX) 40'
COMBAT MOVEMENT 15'-20'
ENGINE Type 100 (HA-41) 1,250hp Radial 14 Cylinders
TAKE OFF POWER 1,200hp/2,150rpm
1ST MILITARY POWER 1,260hp/1,960rpm/3,700m
2ND MILITARY POWER ---
PROPELLER 3 Blade
DIAMETER 2.95m
BASIC WEIGHT 1,994kg
GROSS WEIGHT 2,571kg
OVER LOAD WEIGHT 2,886kg
WING LOADING 171.3kg/m^2
POWER LOADING 2.04kg/hp
SPAN LOADING 28.78kg/m^2
INTERNAL FUEL CAPACITIES 505L
EXTERNAL FUEL TANK CAPACITIES 260L
OIL TANK CAPACITIES 40+10L
MAX SPEED 580km/h/3,700m
534km/h/5,000m
CRUISING SPEED 400km/h
LANDING SPEED 145km/h
CLIMB TIME 5,000m/5'54"
7,000m/9'48"
SERVICE CEILING 10,820m
RANGE 926km
MAX RANGE 1,722km
ARMAMENT
Ki-44-I
Type 98 7.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Fuselage, 500rds each)
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Wing, 250rds each)
Ki-44-II-Ko 353 Ki-44-II-Ko built.
SPAN 9.45m
OVER ALL LENGTH 8.90m
OVER ALL HEIGHT (HORIZONTAL ATTITUDE) 3.12m
WING AREA 15.00m^2
ASPECT-RATIO 5.95
"Butterfly-Type" Fowler Flap
TAKE OFF MOVEMENT 20'
LANDING MOVEMENT (MAX) 40'
COMBAT MOVEMENT 15'-20'
ENGINE Type 2 (HA-109) 1,450hp Radial 14 Cylinders
TAKE OFF POWER 1,520hp/2,650rpm
1ST MILITARY POWER 1,440hp/2,600rpm/2,150m
2ND MILITARY POWER 1,320hp/2,600rpm/5,250m
PROPELLER 3 Blade
DIAMETER 3.00m
BASIC WEIGHT 2,095kg
GROSS WEIGHT 2,764kg
OVER LOAD WEIGHT 2,998kg
WING LOADING 184.3kg/m^2
POWER LOADING 1.82kg/hp
SPAN LOADING 30.95kg/m^2
INTERNAL FUEL CAPACITIES 485L
EXTERNAL FUEL TANK CAPACITIES 260L
OIL TANK CAPACITIES 40+10L
MAX SPEED 605km/h/5,200m
561km/h/3,000m
CRUISING SPEED 400km/h/6,000m
LANDING SPEED 150km/h
CLIMB TIME 5,000m/4'15"
SERVICE CEILING 11,200m
RANGE 1296km
MAX RANGE 2,000km
ARMAMENT
Ki-44-II-Ko
Type 98 7.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Fuselage, 500rds each)
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Wing, 250rds each)
30-100kg bombs x2 or 250kg x1
Ki-44-II-Otsu (Hei) 393 Ki-44-II-Otsu built. At least 500 Ki-44-II-Hei built.
SPAN 9.448m
OVER ALL LENGTH 8.843m
OVER ALL HEIGHT (HORIZONTAL ATTITUDE) 3.248m
OVER ALL HEIGHT (TAIL ON GROUND) 3.115m
WING AREA 15.00m^2
ASPECT-RATIO 5.95
"Butterfly-Type" Fowler Flap
TAKE OFF MOVEMENT 20'
LANDING MOVEMENT (MAX) 40'
COMBAT MOVEMENT 15'-20'
ENGINE Type 2 (HA-109) 1,450hp Radial 14 Cylinders
TAKE OFF POWER 1,520hp/2,650rpm
1ST MILITARY POWER 1,440hp/2,600rpm/2,150m
2ND MILITARY POWER 1,320hp/2,600rpm/5,250m
PROPELLER 3 Blade
DIAMETER 3.00m
BASIC WEIGHT 2,106kg
GROSS WEIGHT 2,764kg
OVER LOAD WEIGHT 2,998kg
WING LOADING 184.3kg/m^2
POWER LOADING 1.82kg/hp
SPAN LOADING 30.95kg/m^2
INTERNAL FUEL CAPACITIES 485L
EXTERNAL FUEL TANK CAPACITIES 260L
OIL TANK CAPACITIES 40+10L
MAX SPEED 605km/h/5,200m
575km/h/4,000m
578km/h/3,000m
CRUISING SPEED 400km/h/4,000m
LANDING SPEED 150km/h
CLIMB TIME 5,000m/4'26"
8,000m/9'37"
SERVICE CEILING 11,200m
RANGE 1200km
MAX RANGE 1,600km
ARMAMENT
Ki-44-II-Otsu
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Fuselage, 250rds each)
Ho-301 40mm Rocket Cannon x2 (Wing, 9rds each)
30-100kg bombs x2
Ki-44-II-Hei
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Fuselage, 250rds each)
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Wing, 250rds each)
30-100kg bombs x2
A total of 1225 Ki-44s were built (including prototypes).
Source (1): ISBN4-7698-0921-20
Title: Mechanism of Military Aircraft 12 "Hayabisa"/"Shoki"/"97-sen"
Source (2): ISBN4-69319-013-X
Title: Famous Airplanes Of The World No.16, Army Type 2 Fighter "Shoki"
[edit mode] I fixed Ki-44-II-Otsu and Hei's fuselage guns ammo to 250rds from 270rds[/edit mode]
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I rely hope and pray we get some more Japanese planes, we desperatly nead them in the CT, and they will add diversity in the MA.
I have worn out my voice yelling from my soap box about the nead for more Japanese Strike/attack aircraft, Planes like the Grace and Randy for late war, and planes like the Nick for earler war.
Also the Emily would do so much for the Game and the Japanese abaility to cunduct bombing sorties it would be a great help.
At the very least we could use some varients of the Tony.
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uhh... I'm tired of translating. :p
Ki-44 is second favorite plane.
first favorite one is Ki-61 though. :)
-Mitsu
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nice posts sir :)
hope they will notice and add them...
and hey, how about adding J2M3??:cool:
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Were all Ki-44's equipped with the telescope-tube gunsight? Seems like such a sight would be irritating to have to use. I wonder how AH would model such a sight, should the Ki-44 be added.
J_A_B
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Please guys, cant you use the US nicknames for the japANESE fighters? I really have no idea who those fighters are.
George, Oscar, Frank, Tony <-- names Ive heard, are they in there somwhere?
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Ki-43 Hayabusa was known as the oscar.
Ki-61 was the Tony
Ki-84 was the Frank
N1K2 was the George.
I think all those are right.
Don't know what the Allied name for the Ki-44 was, I'd like to have one though. Along with the ki-43 II and the ki-84.
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oscar = ki-43 = "hayabusa"
tojo = ki-44 = "shoki"
tony = ki-61 = "hien"
frank = ki-84 = "hayate"
jack = J2M = "raiden"
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/index.html
this hp will help you a LOT...
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Ki 44 was the Tojo
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Thanks
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I sure hope the Japanese get alot more in v1.10 than just the A6M2.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see though.
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Originally posted by J_A_B
Were all Ki-44's equipped with the telescope-tube gunsight? Seems like such a sight would be irritating to have to use. I wonder how AH would model such a sight, should the Ki-44 be added.
J_A_B
The Ki-44s which have a optical gunsight are as follows:
Ki-44-II-Otsu later production.
Ki-44-II-Hei.
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Mitsu
Stab./JG1 "Oesau"
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what we really need for the PAC maps is 10 japanese troops on pushbikes :) hehe
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Originally posted by Pongo
Mitsu..you deadly dweeb...
this game is not ready for shuch beauty...
(http://www3.telus.net/pongo/perk2.jpg)
from where is this picture?
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Punt.
I'm ready to scan all my IJAAF reference. hehe! :D
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First borg..
I cant remember the name..it was some japanese 3d art site
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J2M is nice addition :), but I'm wanting Imperial Japanese Army Air Force fighters. ;)
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Mitsu
Stab./JG1 "Oesau"
'Show me the Shoki!"
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Click to view the image:
http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/images/ki44/ki44-2_data_e.jpg
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Ki84 please :)
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Wilbuz,
I'd like to have Japanese Focke-Wulf first.
It is Ki-44 "Shoki". :)
-Mitsu
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I'd like to have Japanese Focke-Wulf first.
Hell, when ya put it like that!!! Give us the Ki44! :D
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punt.
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i agree we do need IJAAF fighters in our collection of fine planes.HT will you consider this maybe not now but after 1.10 +
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ZEKE and Tojo. :) (This Tojo is Ki-44-II-Hei, 12.7mm*4 model)
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Yes, we need the Ki-44-II-Hei, which in the USA is designated as the Ki-44-IIb like in my signature. This was the most produced version of the Ki-44. Four 12.7mm machine guns might not sound like very good firepower, but compared to other early/mid war IJAF fighters it is very good.
I think the Ki-44-II-Hei would make a superlative addition for 1.10 given the aircraft that have been announced so far.
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I updated Nakajima Ki-44 "Shoki" Specifications post.
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PLEASE MORE JAPANESE PLANES:)
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Bring the Claude to AH!
palef
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Or the Nate:)
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Ki-44 Shoki and Ki-43 Hayabusa would be nice... :)
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Is this useless?
http://www.at.sakura.ne.jp/~t-key/ac/ka-go.htm
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punt. :)
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Well, Natedog just posted a screenie of the new D3A1. I suspect more early-war Japanese aircraft are in store for us.
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punt
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Ki-44 Shoki looks like a IJAAF version of the Jug! I'd fly it for sure!
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hmmm, a Japanese P-47? :)
(I like this pic)
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I swear those wings look to me like they have a little forward sweep.
I think Shoki would be very interesting to fly, but I most look forward to seeing the Ki.84 in AH. Sometimes I wonder if many in the AH community have as little regard for Japanese aircraft industry as did American and British war planners before WWII.
Can it be true though? Aren't all AH flyers well-schooled in aviation history?
If it is not so, Hayate will teach them a painful lesson!
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Hope we have a Nakajima Fighters Pack in the next version, oboe. ;)
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How about the Kawasaki Ki-100, which was the Ki-61 with a radial engine? It was built right before the end of the war so there weren't very many, but a few of the books I have declare it the best JAAF plane put into service. Otherwise, I'd sure like to have the Ki-84.
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Punt for V1.11. :D
btw nice pic tabasco. :)
I think HTC can release Ki-100 quickly.
that plane is my favorite.
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oh, something is weird in the pic...
ki-100 didn't have longer barrel guns on the wing.
ho-103 MG could fit in the wing.
and IJAAF didn't paint a drop tank yellow. :)
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Ki-100 looks cool. Shoki looks cool. Ki-84 looks cool. Wow !
But I will stick to 190 ;).
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POOONT!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't SHOKI YOUR CHICKEN!!!!!
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FRANK!
(http://www.ne.jp/asahi/airplane/museum/cl-pln/images2/Hayate4.jpg)
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:D How to make some friends :D
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OK, Frenchy...let me say Japanese planes were made of rice paper. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
:D How to make some friends :D
oh my cod no... is that what I think it is?? One of the last Ki-43 left at Clark AB, Phillippines. I was wondering what happened to it when Clark AB shutdown and Mt Pinatubo exploded...
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Ki-84 and Ki-100, please...
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FDutchmn, I think that's A6M Zero.
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Yes, SUPERFLY should make Ki-100 with love!
He can divert Ki-61 Model to Ki-100. :(
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Wmaker,
yeah, i think so too...the canopy is similar to it.
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ki-43/44/84 & 100 are sorely needed in AH puh puh puh puh lease add them thank you :D .
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BRADY I DONE TOLD YOU 10,000 TIMES NOBODY WANTS A GRACE BUT YOU !!!!!!!
WE WANT THE JILL! :D
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Actually, I want the "Grace", I just think the "Jill" would be more appropriate for the game. But I really want the "Grace".
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I just want to see IJAAF planes in AH. :D
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Me too. :cool:
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<----speaks in his sleep....
"raiden....raiden...raiden...."
Just a modest suggestion, HTC :)
Gainsie
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...and make that the JM-4..pretty please?
perked for sure!
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puuunt!
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Nakajima, Nakajima, Nakajima!
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Originally posted by Mitsu
ARMAMENT
Ki-44-II-Otsu
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Fuselage, 270rds each?)
Ho-301 40mm Rocket Cannon x2 (Wing, 9rds each)
30-100kg bombs x2
Ki-44-II-Hei
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Fuselage, 270rds each?)
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Wing, 250rds each)
30-100kg bombs x2
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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punt.
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Here is good news.
Ki-44-II-Otsu could carry more shells of the Ho-301 rocket cannon by putting gunpods under the wing.
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'P38-J first
:D
or
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early P-38 model is cool for pacific war.
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Originally posted by oboe
I swear those wings look to me like they have a little forward sweep.
I think Shoki would be very interesting to fly, but I most look forward to seeing the Ki.84 in AH. Sometimes I wonder if many in the AH community have as little regard for Japanese aircraft industry as did American and British war planners before WWII.
Can it be true though? Aren't all AH flyers well-schooled in aviation history?
If it is not so, Hayate will teach them a painful lesson!
The Zero's where more maneuverable than the Corsairs.
Only thing was the Corsair could dive and get away fast, or make enough seperation to try and turn the fight around, or get away as the situation may warrant. As for the industry itself, I dunno. But I wouldn't say many AH pilots have little regard for Japanese planes.
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punt.
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Something for MA:
PLEASE :)
What about adding a new plane every new tour independent from patches and new versions?
(http://www.ottoweller.de/ah/NJ-KI84-1.jpg)