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Title: Spit14 climbrate
Post by: AKcurly on May 03, 2002, 04:57:39 AM

Earlier this week, I saw a reference on this BBS claiming the Spit14 would outclimb the 109G10.

It's not even close.  The G10 blows the Spit14 away.

Time
to:            Spit 14         G10      
5k              1:32            1:24
10k             2:37           2:29
15k             3:50           3:41
20k             5:19           4:59
25k             7:19           6:31

50% fuel, wep and times by "West Bend". :)

Now, if I just learn to effectively use a tater gun. :)

curly

Title: Spit14 climbrate
Post by: Hortlund on May 03, 2002, 05:20:16 AM

So, using your numbers, exactly what does this tell us about who outclimbs who in the 10k-15k area?

If I have read them correct, the Spit and the G10 are basically identical in that area. (G10 is 1 second faster to 15k)

Correct?

Title: Spit14 climbrate
Post by: AKcurly on May 03, 2002, 06:09:22 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Hortlund
So, using your numbers, exactly what does this tell us about who outclimbs who in the 10k-15k area?

If I have read them correct, the Spit and the G10 are basically identical in that area. (G10 is 1 second faster to 15k)

Correct?

Yes, in the 10-15k range, very close.  However, so far as that goes, the Spit9 is very close to the G10 in the 10-15k range.

curly

Title: Spit14 climbrate
Post by: Hortlund on May 03, 2002, 06:28:32 AM

How did you do this test? alt+x and a stopwatch?

If yes,
Would there be different results if you zoom-climbed, then went level to pick up speed and then zoom-climb again?

Title: Spit14 climbrate
Post by: Widewing on May 03, 2002, 07:19:45 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Hortlund
How did you do this test? alt+x and a stopwatch?

If yes,
Would there be different results if you zoom-climbed, then went level to pick up speed and then zoom-climb again?

The problem with alt+x is that this provides for nowhere near max climb rate. For the Spitfire, max climb would likely be at a speed closer to 160 mph, than 200. Moreover, the climb angle would naturally be greater as well.

The facts are, from sea level to 10k, the Spit XIV outclimbs the G-10, above that the 109 has the advantage, albeit by no great margin. As it is, if a G-10 tangles with a Spit XIV, climbing won't be an issue, surviving is the issue.

Zoom climbs will gain no more altitude than steady state at optimal speed and angle.

My regards,

Widewing

Title: Spit14 climbrate
Post by: Vermillion on May 03, 2002, 08:10:37 AM

Widewing, AutoClimb is preset at maxclimb speed for each aircraft at sea level. Yes it varies as you climb, but not by much.