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Title: Spiderman
Post by: Kanth on May 05, 2002, 02:01:10 AM
They are auctioning off the costumes and some of the props for you diehard fans =)

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/sonypictures/

It has also set record for sales:

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/marvel/spiderman.htm

I'm a big fan, I don't follow the comic books but spidey has always been a fav of mine, I have wallpapers and screen savers etc before they even started making the movie =)

 The movie is worth seeing =)

Kanthy
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Animal on May 05, 2002, 02:23:35 AM
the movie was mediocre
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 05, 2002, 10:32:34 AM
I thought the movie was quite good.

They did fudge some of the original story though.

1)  Spideys WEB stuff in the comic book was mechanical and made/designed by Parker.  Later on in the comic book he changed his WEB solution so it would decompose quickly to make the environmentalists happy (oy!).

2)  In the comic book his Aunt was blind.

3)  Green Goblin did not wear a suit to make him look like he does in the movie.

4)  He could only scale walls due to how he designed his suit.  He could not scale walls without his suit in the comic book.

I liked the fact they kept him human in movie.  He was this way in the comic book.  The only two things he actually had in the comic book was his spidey sense and quick reflexes.

In the movie, they did a nice job of mixing the effects with the story line.  I thought they did a good job of mixing the action with the love interest part.  Good balance.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Voss on May 05, 2002, 11:08:08 AM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I thought the movie was quite good.

They did fudge some of the original story though.

1)  Spideys WEB stuff in the comic book was mechanical and made/designed by Parker.  Later on in the comic book he changed his WEB solution so it would decompose quickly to make the environmentalists happy (oy!).

2)  In the comic book his Aunt was blind.

3)  Green Goblin did not wear a suit to make him look like he does in the movie.

4)  He could only scale walls due to how he designed his suit.  He could not scale walls without his suit in the comic book.

I liked the fact they kept him human in movie.  He was this way in the comic book.  The only two things he actually had in the comic book was his spidey sense and quick reflexes.

In the movie, they did a nice job of mixing the effects with the story line.  I thought they did a good job of mixing the action with the love interest part.  Good balance.


Skuzzy, I don't think you got this right at all.

His Aunt had a weak heart, but I don't think she was ever blind. In the first ever story, Parker went on a T.V. show and climbed the studio wall in his civilian clothes. Finally, he changed his web solution, but not for the reasons you gave (environmentalists weren't even thought of in those days).

Yes, Osborn had to wear a suit as the Green Goblin. He was too well known, otherwise.

I haven't seen the movie yet. Gotta wait until all the kids are done rushing the theaters.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: AKIron on May 05, 2002, 11:18:53 AM
Would it be redundant to have a "geek" forum?  :D
Title: Spiderman
Post by: capt. apathy on May 05, 2002, 11:22:42 AM
the movie was good, it didn't live up to the hype, but i don't think anything could
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 05, 2002, 11:53:48 AM
Quite right about Aunt May Voss,...my bad.

In the original comic book (first issue), he could not climb without his suit.  He designed it with the 'hooks' as it were.
He could scale objects well, but could not go past vertical to the upside down position without his suit.

His change to his web solution was in direct response to the city governments complaints about the webs hanging around on the buildings.  In one of the panes, an engineer shows what the city would look like after years of spideys abuse.

Osborne wore a mask, but the rest of him was morphed from the person to the gobby look.

I would scan in the issues, but copyright infringement would bite me.

Yes, I have a first edition Spiderman and a first edition Superman.  Both in mint condition.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 05, 2002, 11:56:34 AM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
the movie was good, it didn't live up to the hype, but i don't think anything could


I avoided much of the hype about the movie and chose to re-read the original comic book.  I was pleasantly surprised how well they kept Parkers personna true to the comic book.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 05, 2002, 11:57:39 AM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Would it be redundant to have a "geek" forum?  :D


Uh,..by the very fact we are posting in this BBS,...wouldn't that make us all geeks? :D  I think the additional forum would be redundant.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: AKIron on May 05, 2002, 12:34:55 PM
Yeah, I wasn't commenting on the geekiness of this thread specifically but on the BB in general. However, some threads are more geeky than others. ;)
Title: Spiderman
Post by: SOB on May 05, 2002, 01:23:19 PM
Yeah, I liked the movie too...very good in all aspects as far as I'm concerned and I thought the costumes were very well done.  As a plus, I saw it at the Drive-in.  :)


SOB
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 05, 2002, 01:31:52 PM
Saw a comment by the actor playing Spidey.  He said they computer scanned his body in order to make the suits for him and there were over 30 suits made for the movie.
His big complaint was the zippers kept breaking and they would just sew him into the suit, which made bathroom breaks an interesting challenge.

Putting aside any differences between the comic and the movie, I think the movie definately stands on its own merits.  

I only wondered why he dove after the girl from the building and not use the web for saving her?
Title: Spiderman
Post by: SOB on May 05, 2002, 03:15:50 PM
Damsel saved in the hero's arms.


SOB
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 05, 2002, 03:40:39 PM
Ya, I know, but still,...would have been cool to see him zap her with a web and reel her in like a fish,....uh,....don't read anything into that. :D
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Voss on May 05, 2002, 05:20:27 PM
Well, I have it too, Skuzzy. In fact, "Amazing Fantasies" #15 was his first appearance. I have them all. Anything, in fact, that had Spidey even as a cameo. I wouldn't ask you to scan anything that old. I have never read some of them and it wouldn't be a good idea, anyway. The oil from your hands can cause the pages to prematurely yellow and deteriorate.

I must admit, I don't recall anything about hooks in his costume, nor the morph routine with the Goblin. I guess you 'out-geeked' me.:D
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Sox62 on May 05, 2002, 05:25:24 PM
Skuzzy,you are wrong about his needing his suit to scale walls.

 I've been collecting Spider-man comics all my life....my collection has many that show him clinging without his suit.

 You also left out his superhuman strength...somewhere on the order of 100 times that of an ordinary man.He was supposed to be able to lift ten tons.

 http://www.marvel.com/comics/bios/bio_spiderman.htm


 The picture below is from page four of Amazing Fantasy #15-The origin of Spider-man
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Kanth on May 05, 2002, 07:07:31 PM
It's too bad they didn't have Kirsten dunst play Gwen Stacy.

then they could have killed her off during the fight with the green goblin according the the marvel site:

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Peter's costumed career has had its share of ups and downs. His first love, Gwen Stacy, died during a battle between Spider-Man and the Green Goblin.
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That would be have been a great move imo.

happily ever after, everyone gets saved is so boring.

Kanthy
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Voss on May 05, 2002, 11:41:39 PM
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Originally posted by Kanth
then they could have killed her off during the fight with the green goblin according the the marvel site:


Yeah, "The Amazing Spider-Man" #120 (if memory serves), should Sox care to look that up.

Spidey used his web to snag her, but her heart gave out anyway. Hey, at least her clone lives on!:)

Somehow, I'm thinking the movie doesn't do the Spidey story justice.
Title: record setting movie
Post by: Eagler on May 06, 2002, 07:00:31 AM
shattered box-office records with a $114 million debut, surpassing the previous best of $90.3 million taken in by Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone during its first three days last fall.

With $39.3 million on Friday and $43.7 million on Saturday, director Sam Raimi's Spider-Man also beat the single-day record of $33.5 million set by Harry Potter in its second day
Title: Spiderman
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 06, 2002, 07:37:59 AM
So...

Its a great movie for those that don't follow the spiderman comic strip...

and only so-so for those that do.

AKDejaVu
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Mighty1 on May 06, 2002, 08:13:48 AM
Sorry I am a big Spidey fan and I liked it a lot!

Sure there were some changes made to the story but they were minor enough to still make it worth watching.

The only thing I would have changed was having Kirsten Dunst play MJ. MJ is supposed to be a super model not the girl next door.(Well I guess she was the girl next door but you know what I mean)
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 06, 2002, 08:25:40 AM
Never said he could not scale a wall.  If you look at that pane, you will note he is scaling a building with cornerstones protruding from the corners.
Find one where he goes upside down clinging from a ceiling without his suit or something to hang on to.

I can't find one.

If you have the original Spidey comic, look in the section where he is making his web shooters and suit.  Read it carefully.  His strength is higher than normal, but I believe they augmented it in later issues.

And I thought the movie was terrific.  You do not need to know about Spidey to enjoy it and if you do, it is fun to see how well they portrayed this guy.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 06, 2002, 08:27:10 AM
Well Voss, I think they did it right.  The movie assumes you know zip about Spidey and in that light they did a nice job of getting you to know the characters.

The ground work for a really good sequel, which will no doubt be done.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: narsus on May 06, 2002, 08:27:18 AM
Spiderman was cool, I enjoyed the comics and I did enjoy the movie even with the changes. My only gripe was that he didn't talk "smack" during his fights which was a little disappointing.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Skuzzy on May 06, 2002, 08:51:23 AM
Speaking of Spidey.  Anyone get to see the HULK trailer?  Coming next year.  WOOHOO!
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Lance on May 06, 2002, 10:29:39 AM
I saw the movie last night.  It was interesting seeing the spiderman story as an adult.  That this was really a story about a young man's struggle for sexual identity was completely lost on me as a child.

I mean, when the movie starts out, Parker can't wait to get into M.J.s pants.  Thats all he thinks about.  Even after the minor plot detour of him getting bit by a spider and morphing into a superhuman crimefighter, he still can't wait to bag her.

Then he meets the green goblin, and the fireworks fly.  One thing leads to another, and they find themselves slapping each other around in a sadomasochistic love scene culminating with the Goblin asking Spidey to be his life partner so they can rule the world together.

Afterwards, Parker -- as Spiderman -- is confused.  He doesn't know what to think, or how to interpret his feelings.  For the rest of the movie, Spidey is teetering between the kitty and the sausage.  Finally, unable to cope with the fact that he might actually be a homosexual, Spidey kills the gay goblin in a symbolic attempt to exorcise himself of his homosexual desires.

But alas, this is not a happy story.  Even with the object of his immoral urges destroyed, Parker cannot be happy as a heterosexual.  He spurns M.J.'s advances, and instead chooses to continue his life as a sexually repressed superhero so as to avoid exploring the truths of his sexuality -- at least until the sequel.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: SOB on May 06, 2002, 10:42:51 AM
LOL  :D
Title: Spiderman
Post by: midnight Target on May 06, 2002, 10:49:05 AM
Dammit Lance....I hate when people give the plot away!:mad:
Title: Spiderman
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 06, 2002, 10:50:28 AM
Lance.. which one of the "Men on Film" guys were you?

AKDejaVu
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Voss on May 06, 2002, 06:24:49 PM
Lance, you are a victim of a feminized society. Call your local Representative and demand reparations.
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Daff on May 06, 2002, 07:58:46 PM
Hmm..Havent seen it (not out here yet), but I'm very unimpressed by the animation in the the trailers.

Daff
Title: Spiderman
Post by: Kanth on May 07, 2002, 12:14:18 AM
Daff it could have been alot more cool, but I'm a spiderman fan so just having a movie was very kewl in itself.

I would like to have seen some things different, things that were mentioned in this thread.

But I was happy with it because it was spiderman and they stayed somewhat true to the story and how spiderman is.

 If you didn't like spiderman in the first place and it's just some special FX superhero movie to ya, then I guess it'll be mediocre at best.

I didn't get hyped about it I just like spiderman and enjoyed the movie very much =)

Kanthy

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Originally posted by Daff
Hmm..Havent seen it (not out here yet), but I'm very unimpressed by the animation in the the trailers.

Daff