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Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Gonz0 on May 06, 2002, 12:52:11 PM
For over two weeks it has been impossible for knights to fly.  Hell I logged on at 12:00 pm  CST and there are 134 rooks and bishops land grabbing on the 41 knights.  All knight fields were capped.  You knights who have switched to rooks and bishops in the last 30 days have just made a bad situation worse.  Especially when you switch for points reasons.:confused:
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Mathman on May 06, 2002, 01:08:56 PM
Round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows!
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Ripsnort on May 06, 2002, 01:15:36 PM
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Originally posted by Mathman
Round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows!


Heh, yeah, wheres old MrRipley? Kweassa? Wheres the pain guys?  Help this guy feel it! ;)
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Furious on May 06, 2002, 01:20:42 PM
I like it.

.....us against the world, baby!!



F.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Duedel on May 06, 2002, 01:30:10 PM
Many knights are off cause they cant get into MA!
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: poopster on May 06, 2002, 01:30:26 PM
Outnumbered ??

I like it. :)

I'll be there, won't help much, but I'll be there.

nopoop
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: moose on May 06, 2002, 01:52:04 PM
I'm enjoying being outnumbered.

Last night while the bishes were trying to capture P14 I defended it by my lonesome in an F4U-1 off the carrier

At one point it was like 5 or 6 on 1 and I ended up with a 6 kill sortie before I ran out of gas.

At least we're not outnumbered in skill :D
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Octavius on May 06, 2002, 02:30:21 PM
amen brutha moose.  I'll enjoy this outnumbered phase.  I've seen the beginning many times and I know it will phase out sooner or later.  Its all part of the AH Circle of Life.

no knight should not be complaining.  dont lower yourselves to the sewer-fed, sheep-licking, flea-infested, genital wart-picking, chicken-boinking, hemroid-prone arses AKA the Bishrook :D  

the above statement has nothing to do with anything, carry on.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: SlapShot on May 06, 2002, 02:33:44 PM
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Originally posted by Octavius
dont lower yourselves to the sewer-fed, sheep-licking, flea-infested, genital wart-picking, chicken-boinking, hemroid-prone arses AKA the Bishrook :D  


:D Took the words right out of my mouth !!!
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: mrsid2 on May 06, 2002, 02:59:41 PM
Ripsnort (I'm MrRip's old BB account) as it is I'm very very unfortunate not to witness this situation as my processor burned due to an accident involving the power chord of my waterpump :)

All I can say is 'WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAA' 'Whine on' 'Suck it up' 'Sucks to be a loser' 'Join the winners side' and all other very appropriate answers I have had when complaining in a similar situation.

I'm extremely happy if even a small percentage of the patronising wiseasses are now facing the same endless takeoff-be banged-die routine we got so used to.

But knowing they're losers anyway they already switched to rooks where they can again play with the numbers.

I'll be back on the arenas tomorrow with a new and more powerful CPU and from the sound of it it's going to be interesting indeed.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Preon1 on May 06, 2002, 03:15:20 PM
Outnumbered is such a negative word.  Best to think of it as flying in a target rich environment :D
Title: Didnt mean to start something...
Post by: Gonz0 on May 06, 2002, 04:12:08 PM
I just thought it was funny that at noon the damn bishops and rooks were land grabbing.  More hilarious is some of the cpids I saw were the same sons of motherless goats I see flying every night.  Is it too much to ask for these pieces of watermelon to move out of their parents houses, get jobs, and contribute to society...instead of sitting behind their computer, mindless, porking defenseless bases?  Geezus!

Then at night I hear peeps talking scores???  People may laugh but I liked paying by the hour for AW on AOL...limited the amount of 30 year old unemployed bums stroking their   "keyboards" all day.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Fatty on May 06, 2002, 04:16:47 PM
I'm with Gonzero! :mad:  :confused:

This has gotten so bad, that the arena is now conspiring to attack me no matter which coutry I swap to.  Every time I change, both other countries are attacking me!  Explain that!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Wotan on May 06, 2002, 04:30:55 PM
theres a heck of a lotta knights that aint in game do to terrible connections.

I wouldnt worry much about numbers. Unless the main connects stay this way.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Kweassa on May 06, 2002, 04:46:44 PM
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Heh, yeah, wheres old MrRipley? Kweassa? Wheres the pain guys? Help this guy feel it!


 Take a hike, Rip! This thread is about 'gang-banging'. The whine I specialize in is about 'numbers balance'.  Those two are different! ;)

 134 Rooks + Bish and 41 Knits. Assuming 50:50 on Rooks and Bish, it's about 67 Rooks, 67 Bish and 41 Knits. The numbers balance is not a good one, but it certainly isn't the worst.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: ZeroPing on May 06, 2002, 05:01:16 PM
Half the knights are always in one sector with each other, it is sad
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: minus on May 06, 2002, 05:06:18 PM
Knigit  and shoting only below 250   , now is it imposible   cos Klingons invadet MA :p
Title: "this thread is about gang-banging"
Post by: Gonz0 on May 06, 2002, 05:16:56 PM
If this thread is about anything it is about numbers being imbalanced and the reason that is so.  And the main reason seems to be squads jumping ship when things aren't going so well.  It is these "fair weathered" chickenchits that cause the numbers and therefore AH's main arena to fluctuate.

Cap the number of times a squad can move in a 3 month period to ONE and you will see more balance in the arena.  Hell, you have people predicting resets trying to switch sides 12 hours before to get in on the points.  Ban those bastards from jumping ship 15 times a month and you will see more balance.

Gonz
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Replicant on May 06, 2002, 05:19:34 PM
Well yeah, there was a lotta Bish online today (6 May) but then it was a Public Holiday in the UK and quite a few fellow Brits online  :)

Cyas up!
Title: I like being outnumbered....
Post by: Mave on May 06, 2002, 05:33:03 PM
Hell bishops and rooks should recruit even more pilots. Just means more kills for me. :cool: Bring it on, fresh meat. :p

Mave
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: JB73 on May 06, 2002, 06:18:44 PM
the reason the III/Jabostaffel left the kngiths is a simple one... the knights are unorganized and dumb. if any knights remember the other night in the mindano map whe the bishits took A12 in the knight homeland. we lost all dar in a matter of miniutes and almost lost another base too. to those who were fighting to get A12 back, but there were other knights over trying to take bases they were outnumbered at. that is just stupidity. multiple times i flew into A12 that evening and was 1 of 2 or 3 friendlies in the sky as opposed to 35+ bish. after that reset our squad decided it was time to part ways with the knights. so let it be written, so let it be done.
knights was good flying with ya but now we gotta kill ya :)
Title: 73 can I buy ya some prozac?
Post by: Gonz0 on May 06, 2002, 06:44:47 PM
Relax man.  It is just a game!

let me call ya in a prescription so you can play AH and have fun.

Gonz:cool:
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Kweassa on May 06, 2002, 06:48:22 PM
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If this thread is about anything it is about numbers being imbalanced and the reason that is so. And the main reason seems to be squads jumping ship when things aren't going so well. It is these "fair weathered" chickenchits that cause the numbers and therefore AH's main arena to fluctuate.

Cap the number of times a squad can move in a 3 month period to ONE and you will see more balance in the arena. Hell, you have people predicting resets trying to switch sides 12 hours before to get in on the points. Ban those bastards from jumping ship 15 times a month and you will see more balance.


 Of all the numbers whining I've done  ;) , I've never whined about 'gang-bang' itself. Numbers imbalance is something like the situations Rooks faced when numbers were like 160:160:100 few months back.

 67:67:41 is not a 'distinct' disadvantage, especially when overall MA numbers are under 200 people. You guys were outnumbered where total of your men were about two-thirds of the each other countries'. The '1/3rd' shortage is about 26 people.

 Now, if the case was something like 160:160:120(typical Rook situation for last few months :rolleyes: ), it is the same disadvantge of 2/3rd of the numbers of each country, but in this case the same '1/3rd shortage' translates to woppin' 40 people.

 In other words, the numbers itself in the case you mentioned is not a distinct imbalance. Rather it is a gang-bang situation that probably made it very hard on you guys. If there is anything that really 'fluctuates', it is the gang-bang situations.

 Gang-bangs happen when either there is no other choice in the strat, or a certain country has so many fields that it becomes a 'common enemy' to both other countries.  Of the two reasons, the first one is more common. The maps we play in MA are in truth not very fair balance. At certain points on the map, the front becomes stagnant, making it hard for two countries to fight in that front. In this case a the players flock over to other fronts and thus a gang-bang occurs. For instance, 9 times out of 10, the South-Eastern Islands are prone to gangbang in NDIsles. In the case of Baltic, the Southern country. In Mindanao the southern mainland gets gang-banged, while the West is almost impenetrable... and etc etc.

 Trust me on this, we 'strat-potatos' think about these stuff everyday :D
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Beegerite on May 06, 2002, 07:17:17 PM
Know what we need?  An official AH page which gives the official count for each country every 7.5 minutes together with other statistics which could be used to prove or disprove whichever arguement you're trying to support at that time e.g.

Number of Bishops, Knights and Rooks
Number of Bishop, Knights and Rooks who are thinking of defecting.
Number of Bishop, Knights and Rooks who think they're being gang-banged
Number of Bishops, Knights and Rooks who are definetely being gang-banged
Number of Bishops, Knights and Rooks who are giving orders
Number of Bishops, Knights and Rooks who are ignoring orders
Number of Bishops, Knights and Rooks who give a flying F...
Number of Bishops, Knights and Rooks who don't give a flying F...
Number of Bishops, Knights and Rooks who defected last week and our now saying to themselves, What the F...?  This ain't no different!

and so on and so forth.

Beeg :D
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Chaos68 on May 06, 2002, 07:23:56 PM
i remember this has happened a year or so ago ( rooks were underdogs and got help) and knights were on the end of the beating stick. but after awhile things went back to normal.

just fly for fun, its just a game...if you dont like being beaten then swich sides.

im sticking with knights.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: ZeroPing on May 06, 2002, 11:34:54 PM
I had respect for JB but now.... Jblambba is all ihave to say ;)
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: mrsid2 on May 07, 2002, 01:24:24 AM
I thought gonzo was whining about 134+134+41 imbalance..

If it was only 67+67+41 LOL get a grip that has been a GOOD situation for rooks in the past MONTHS at euro hours.

Try it at 120+120+30 and 5 fields and then tell me youre being banged.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Kirin on May 07, 2002, 01:56:08 AM
Well noticed Knights going underdog as well - but quite a few pilots (even some entire squads) changed to Rooks when there were seriously outnumbered! The only place that's always overbred is Bishland - so no big change of target... :)

JG54 staying Rook for now!
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Eaglecz on May 07, 2002, 03:10:00 AM
Bishops are most easiest target i ever creamed :D
its funny to nailing them :cool:
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: gatt on May 07, 2002, 03:10:48 AM
Oh well, score-potatos and opportunistic squads always existed :rolleyes:
Even if we're usually outnumbered 3:1, I've never seen so many sissy runners like these days :)

4°Stormo Caccia "F.Baracca" has been always Knight and proud of it!
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: m0m0yama on May 07, 2002, 03:13:22 AM
Outnumbered, yes, but okay. What I hate to see is knights,
outnumbered, still split up and doing furball things mindlessly..
Sometimes its making me :mad: :rolleyes:
Title: numbers
Post by: SLO on May 07, 2002, 08:02:10 AM
true true numbers have changed....alot of knight squads went rooks too help(at least it shows some knights have brains, compared to bish)...but that created an numbers balance for knights....2 resets in 1 day....bish/rooks/or knights, doesn't matter....that shouldn't happen IF PEOPLE TRY TO BALANCE ARENA THEMSELVES.....when it was 130bish/130knights/5 rooks.....and i'd see a whole bunch tryin to finish rooks....made me laugh soo much i'd go kill bish, more bish and soooooooo many more bishes....what can i say....its the smell they create when u get near em  :eek: makes me wanna kill em agressively :D    

seriously when rooks where outnumbered...i'd go fight bish....i fought bish alot cause rooks always outnumbered :p

if peeps would try to balance a little of the game it would be a little more fun.....but i'm a dreamin i know......some folks just love too take bases w/overwhelmin no#'s....then pat themselves on the back and say...WE DID GOOD(fuggin morons)

JB67 anytime u and your mates wanna do something to knights, give me a holler, i'll make sure to stick a few bullets up your, where sunshine never hits.;)

SLO
4 WING =441 Silver Fox=
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: H. Godwineson on May 07, 2002, 10:18:57 AM
I don't understand.  You have a sky full of potential targets.  What's the problem?  :confused:


Shuckins  ;)
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Karnak on May 07, 2002, 11:40:18 AM
I fly Rook only.  I always attack the strongest opponent if Rooks aren't being ganged, if they are who I attack doesn't matter.

For the last 6 months it hasn't ever mattered who I attacked.  2 weeks is nothing.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Masherbrum on May 07, 2002, 01:02:36 PM
But it was different when the Rooks were in this predicament?!??!!

My heart doesn't bleed for you and I can care less.  

LET'S GO ROOKS!!!!!!!

Jay

P.S. - I like being the underdog, makes you get on your hind legs and do something!!!
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Wlfgng on May 07, 2002, 01:34:58 PM
target-rich
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Zippatuh on May 07, 2002, 02:40:35 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
the reason the III/Jabostaffel left the kngiths is a simple one... the knights are unorganized and dumb. if any knights remember the other night in the mindano map whe the bishits took A12 in the knight homeland. we lost all dar in a matter of miniutes and almost lost another base too. to those who were fighting to get A12 back, but there were other knights over trying to take bases they were outnumbered at. that is just stupidity. multiple times i flew into A12 that evening and was 1 of 2 or 3 friendlies in the sky as opposed to 35+ bish. after that reset our squad decided it was time to part ways with the knights. so let it be written, so let it be done.
knights was good flying with ya but now we gotta kill ya :)


Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.

You are over estimating your importance to any side.  A declaration of “we’re leaving cuz you be dumb” is not necessary.  Just pack up and leave.

I’d damn near be willing to bet Ripsnort’s paycheck that your squad moved to bish.  Could it be you just want it easy?  Oh what the hell, I’ll go on and divvy it up, Rip can hack it if I’m wrong ;).
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on May 07, 2002, 03:30:51 PM
If u not make the difference than who does ?
sounds like a story off a sissy.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: "this thread is about gang-banging"
Post by: MrLars on May 07, 2002, 05:07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Gonz0
If this thread is about anything it is about numbers being imbalanced and the reason that is so.  And the main reason seems to be squads jumping ship when things aren't going so well.  It is these "fair weathered" chickenchits that cause the numbers and therefore AH's main arena to fluctuate.

Cap the number of times a squad can move in a 3 month period to ONE and you will see more balance in the arena.  Hell, you have people predicting resets trying to switch sides 12 hours before to get in on the points.  Ban those bastards from jumping ship 15 times a month and you will see more balance.

Gonz


This is just about the single most stupid post in this thread. Some of us "roaming squads" switch sides on a regular basis timed with the new TOD and NOT when we're in the hole. SOME of us switch to the underdog to help ballance the arena...get it?
Title: MrLars...
Post by: Gonz0 on May 07, 2002, 08:22:25 PM
If your squad roams for other reasons then so be it.  You must not be one of the bastards I'm talking about.  If your squad times their jump to other countries based on resets...then you are one of the bastards I am talking about...

As for your description as being "stupid" for my post...my guess is you are one of the bastards I am talking about!    

;)

Gonz
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: SKurj on May 08, 2002, 10:58:17 AM
hmm when i logged last night it was roughly 150 bish, 150 rooks, 150 knits..


SKurj
Title: saw that skurj
Post by: Gonz0 on May 08, 2002, 11:13:55 AM
Now if we could only get the bish and rooks to fight each other once in awhile...we would be made in the shade.

Gonz
Title: Re: MrLars...
Post by: MrLars on May 08, 2002, 11:58:06 AM
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Originally posted by Gonz0


As for your description as being "stupid" for my post...my guess is you are one of the bastards I am talking about!    

;)

 


That's MISTER Bastage if you don't mind :p
Title: Re: saw that skurj
Post by: Arfann on May 08, 2002, 12:16:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gonz0
Now if we could only get the bish and rooks to fight each other once in awhile...we would be made in the shade.

Gonz


Ok, everyone put on your thinking caps. This concept will be a little hard for some to grasp.  The large red dar-bars over the bish/rooks border is NOT a joint strike force forming up to hit Knits. It's a battle royale going on between rooks and bishops. Really. No, really!! Nothing funnier to me than when someone makes this claim in the MA (and it happens with all three countries :D )when a glance at dar shows battles on all three fronts.
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: SKurj on May 08, 2002, 12:54:48 PM
Gonz0   I am a knit... when i logged last night about a dozen knits were fightin a similar amount of rooks... and bish were cryin about it +)


SKurj
Title: Knights vs whole arena
Post by: Zippatuh on May 08, 2002, 02:12:05 PM
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
If u not make the difference than who does ?
sounds like a story off a sissy.

:rolleyes:


uhhhhh, what :confused:

No one squad or pilot makes a difference by moving.  It’s not going to help or hurt either way; the numbers fluctuate too much for it to be of any consequence.

What I believe is probably happening is when a country nears the end or the tide of war starts to turn there are a significant number of individuals that switch from side to side wanting to be on the upper hand.  That’s called taking the easy way out of things.

When I say don’t over estimate your importance it is usually to those that say, “we’re leaving cuz you suck” type crap.  Ever heard the term “the grass is always greener”?  So leave today and someone else will take your place.  And if you’re going to berate the people you are flying with, then yes, by all means get the hell out!  Go somewhere else; the Knights do not want you.  Or at least I don’t :D.
Title: Zippitah knows the gig
Post by: Gonz0 on May 08, 2002, 08:50:08 PM
WELL SAID ZIPPITAH...FROM a fellow Missourian.

Gonz0