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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: weazel on May 06, 2002, 09:09:53 PM
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Bwahahaha!
Where do they find losers like evangelist Duplantis, and why would anyone give him the money for TV time to put forth his crackpot theory that T-Rex and all the other dinosaurs took a ride on the ark? :rolleyes:
Hilarious stuff, he's almost worth watching for the comedic value.
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I believe that many of the stories in the Old Testament are symbolic. So do leading theologians.
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just to let you know, ther WERE dinosaurs around when we were.
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Originally posted by JoeDirt
just to let you know, ther WERE dinosaurs around when we were.
There still are...chickens are a direct relative genetically just to mention one.
Funny, this BBS is a one way street, non-believers always trying to disprove believers (thread starters)...sounds like insecurity amongst the non-believers. ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
There still are...chickens are a direct relative genetically just to mention one.
Funny, this BBS is a one way street, non-believers always trying to disprove believers (thread starters)...sounds like insecurity amongst the non-believers. ;)
sure does look like it to me.
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You'll notice my lack of participation in most religious threads, mainly due to respect for others beliefs, and partly due to the fact that I'm one of those folks that is a God-fearing individual who also happens to believe in the scientific evolution process, but someone or something started it all, and thats the God-fearing part of me. :)
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Hmmmm, now that you mention it, I did note a lack of participation on your part in the E vs. C thread. You should be ashamed of yourself.:) So close to 300 posts, and Rip didn't help.:p
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In the April edition of "Discovery" magazine there is an article about the creation of the universe. According to the "inflationary theory" the universe sprang into being from a point in space one-billionth the size of an electron. The full theory is too detailed to go into here, but most scientists accept the notion that the universe sprang into being from nothing from this tiny point. The forces impelling this event were a type of negative gravitational effect and the matter springing into existence from this point somehow "dragging" the other matter into existence.
The scientist who formulated this theory is an agnostic. He does make the statement that, since the point in space was so small, it might be possible for this event to be "created." He believes an advanced civilization might have the capability of recreating this event.
Hmmmm! If an advanced civilization could do it, why could God not do it?
Shuckins
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Missed a good one, Rip. As it happens, that very point was made.
WRT the latest theory of the beginning of the universe, it still doesn't explain something from nothing. Not that I want to rehash this again here- go to E vs. C if you want to read the transcript. Some interesting opinions and ideas forwarded.
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Anybody remember Oral Roberts?
My mom used to get mad at me and my little brothers for "Healing" each other. (You grab your victim's forehead with your hand and push sharply back, "HEAL! HEAL! HEAL!) :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Funny, this BBS is a one way street, non-believers always trying to disprove believers (thread starters)...sounds like insecurity amongst the non-believers. ;)
Funny, there are enormous religious organisations actively spreading the faith - the churches are working full time, missionaries, TV evangelists, publications, people sticking some kind of booklets to the pedestrians, etc. Seems like insecurity among believers. After all, if the faith is true and God-inspired, it would not have to rely on some guys to bring it to people.
There is no organised anti-religious propaganda that can even begin to compare to the religious one. If we (atheists/agnostics) make some funny observation on apparent stupidity of some religious nut on this board, you should give us a break. After all, you read it when you want to. We are not waking you up with the damned bells ringing! :)
miko
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Miko, we had Easter last Sunday...
I turned on my TV in the morning (a quite rare thing for me), and what I saw!? A show called "How to celebrate Easter", and the host (veduschiy) was Nikolay Drozdov! That Nikolay Drozdov from "V mire zhivotnih"!!! "In the world of animals"!!! The same guy who still talks about evolution and Darvinism!
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howaloooya matbe they will se the light:D :D
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Originally posted by miko2d
There is no organised anti-religious propaganda that can even begin to compare to the religious one.
While I just dodge the debate entirely, there are many out there who would disagree with you.
This book goes on and on about it
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0849916720/qid=1020816232/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_83_1/102-6773826-6184957 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0849916720/qid=1020816232/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_83_1/102-6773826-6184957) :rolleyes:
-Sikboy
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Everyone know that the Evil Atheist Conspiracy Dinosaur Fossil Factory is responsible for spreading the lies about there having been dinosaurs.
I mean, it's the same stunninghunks who torpedoed Noahs Ark II.
http://deermoss.dhs.org/~nuthouse/eac/
"Subvert, Suppress, Oppress."
* - not to be confused to with the Evil Conspiracy of Atheists or the Conspiracy of Evil Atheists
For their Dinosaur division:
http://deermoss.dhs.org/~nuthouse/eac/fossil.html
And you GOTTA check out the SlaveGirl application. It's the reason I'm an atheis...err.no, I'm not that..
http://deermoss.dhs.org/~nuthouse/eac/slave.html
And no, I'm not a member of the EAC UDT (Underwater Demolitions Team, alt.atheism, id 1116), nor have I ever adhered to the filthy demonic practise of religious atheism!
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Originally posted by JoeDirt
just to let you know, ther WERE dinosaurs around when we were.
You are wrong.
When the first true humans started to spring, the closest thing to a dinosaur were alligators and its relatives, 'chickens' as Rip pointed (though its still not proven that birds are descendants of dinos), and some lizards.
The dinosaurs were, long, long gone when we were "created".
The T-Rex and the humans had no contact; unless you want to take a non-scientific routhe, there is no arguing.
It is symbolic though. You could say that Noah's arc was some sort of alien spaceship sent to this planet containing the recipee for life, or whatever else you want to believe.
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Originally posted by miko2d
Funny, there are enormous religious organisations actively spreading the faith - the churches are working full time, missionaries, TV evangelists, publications, people sticking some kind of booklets to the pedestrians, etc. Seems like insecurity among believers. After all, if the faith is true and God-inspired, it would not have to rely on some guys to bring it to people.
There is no organised anti-religious propaganda that can even begin to compare to the religious one. If we (atheists/agnostics) make some funny observation on apparent stupidity of some religious nut on this board, you should give us a break. After all, you read it when you want to. We are not waking you up with the damned bells ringing! :)
miko
Hehe, did anyone manage to catch Drew Carey on C-SPAN hosting that Presidential Correspondents Dinner recently? He made a funny (and sorta insightful) comment about how Christianity is the only religion he knows of that uses mascots (Santa, Easter Bunny) to sell its holidays. :)
Re: insecurity of nonbelievers - hehe. If anything, nonbelievers are quite secure - after all, the onus probandi is on the believers and so far (over the past few millenia) they've yet to make good on that. Besides, it's fun (and sometime too easy) to pick apart some believers - too tempting to pass up sometimes. And if I see Pascal's Wager one more time... :)
Hey, Sikboy, ever read any Ravi Zacharias? :rolleyes:
If you think the Evil Atheist Conspiracy nonsense some believers peddle is bad, wait 'til you read some of Ravi's stuff on atheism. It's entertaining because it's obvious the guy doesn't even know what he writing about. :)
BTW, #1008 :)
Speaking of which, has anyone ever read Woodmorrape's feasibility study of Noah's Ark? If you want some good chuckles, I suggest you check it out sometime.
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You know, I hardly ever hear anyone ridiculing the prophet Muhammad or the Muslim religion.
I wonder why that is?
Shuckins :confused:
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Because they will strap explosives to their body and come to your house.
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Salmon(sp) Rushdie did... ;)
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Originally posted by H. Godwineson
You know, I hardly ever hear anyone ridiculing the prophet Muhammad or the Muslim religion.
I wonder why that is?
Shuckins :confused:
Because Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all based on Old Testament. So we here are ridiculing all that three religions.
BTW, unlike Jesus - Mohammed is a real historical person, and his existance can't be doubted.
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Boroda,
Even the Muslims believe that Jesus was real, and a great prophet. By what reasoning do you claim that he wasn't? Because he has no tomb to visit? Hundreds of historical figures have unmarked graves, and yet their existence is accepted as being beyond argument by historians all over the world. Are we to believe that Genghis Khan did not exist because we cannot find his grave? I think not.
Are we to doubt his existence because the Roman officials of Jesus' time period make no mention of him in their records. Certainly not. During his lifetime, Jesus was a prophet in the tiny province of Palestine, which was aswarm with religious zealots and minor prophets. The absence of records simply means that his ministry had no impact on the Roman officials of that district. To them, one prophet was much like another, and largely ignored.
New Testament accounts provide ample documentation of his existence. While the various authors relate sometimes different views of the same event in his life, we cannot doubt his existence. No two eye-witnesses ever give identical accounts of what they saw. That is not reason to call the accounts into question.
Regards, Shuckins
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I am an atheist, but I never want to offend religious feelings of the others (at least if they are not "subway-christians" or "buddists" from Aum Sinrike).
What I wanted to point is that the existance of Jesus can be doubted, unlike the existance of the "camel rider". Or let's put it this way: Jesus didn't cause such immediate serious effect on world history to be mentioned in documents.
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GWH, another fellow alt.atheist?
Err, I mean, of course he's not.
Today: AH bb. Tomorrow: the world.
I, of course, never wrote that.
On the subject of Jesus: he might have existed. Personally, I am inclined to believe he did.
However, to say that because he existed, he was the son of God (or God himself, never got the grasp of the trinity deal meself) is a major leap of logic/evidence.
Methinks it is like in Life Of Brian: lots of religious zealots/nutters around, and he was one of 'um. He was probably one of the nicer guys around though.