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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ice on March 13, 2001, 02:12:00 PM
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Well, I'm happy for all of you that enjoy drivin your new aircraft around. From what I've read on the boards and heard in the arena, HTC has once again done a good thing.
Me? How do I feel about all of this new horsepower in the MA? I love it!
I have not changed my ride, tried the 51B, but prefer the bubble canopy(I like to see stuff around me)and the 51D with a 4 gun loadout under 10k is plenty good enough for me. The excitement of having the Dora, La7 and others in the MA, being thought of as such formidable rides, is killing them.
Engagements are made with a renewed level of seriousness which I have found refreshing. It is now lethal to make the slightest tactical error. I'm enjoying myself much more than I used to.
Lastly, I find myself laughing at the fact that I have to chase these birds not unlike how many used to feel about chasing the 51...ironic eh? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I still believe the 51 is the Cadillac of the Skies, but if you guys don't agree, thats OK too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Ice
13thTAS
It's not the Big that kill the Small, but the Fast that kill the Slow!
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LOL, I still picture 20 Bish surround (A44?) last night and 4 P51D mustangs *finally* coming down once all cons were low, then, 4 mustangs chasing one hapless victim as he launched the runway, buffer reads "Kill awarded to Ice of TAS 13th. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<S> Ice, I too find myself loitering in my F4U-1D looking for an LA-7 with just a slight altitude disadvantage!
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Best release so far!
Mox
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Ahhh my confused friend Rip (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
What you failed to see, were the 2 Dora's that we killed above the cloud cover and the 6 assorted foe's we killed once we punched thru the cloud cover on our way down to the poor defensless victims launching from their field, as well as the 5 others we killed on the egress home, all without a single loss to a 13th TAS pilot (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
But hey man.....I catch your drift (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cyas Up!<S>
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Ice
13thTAS
It's not the Big that kill the Small, but the Fast that kill the Slow!
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Voss
13th TAS
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Dora rules! Yesterday I had 4 kill mission (P-51D, P-51B, Spit IX and F4U-1C) and that was something like my third sortie in it. And those were not vulch kills but happened near 10 kft!
It is just a new wonderful world of opportunities for pilot who has used to fly Fw 190A'd which are slower than most late war planes. My respect for P-51 has completely gone because I know I am in quite equal plane.
I haven't used Ta 152H-1 online yet since I have not seen any use for it. Still 1000/2400/400 perk points to spend...
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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolsevismus!
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The La7 seems to have taken the Chogs crown as the new scourge of the arena. Seems to be about all I run into below 10k lately. Other than that, no real notice of the additional planes. Flying my Dora and smiling from ear to ear.
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Well,its still early but at this point WD is just lovin the introduction of the 190-D9.And the La7..
Wardog has 15 kills and has been killed 5 times in the Typhoon IB against the Fw 190D-9.
Wardog has 19 kills and has been killed 7 times against the Fw 190D-9.
Wardog has 15 kills and has been killed 9 times in the Typhoon IB against the La-7.
Wardog has 16 kills and has been killed 11 times against the La-7.
I can see La7 being a bit of a pest, there very quick.
Love takin the tiffy into low furballs, not smart flying but damn fun..
Dog out.......
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I'm dyin a lot but havin a blast in my 51B (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Fly the La-7 and you will see it is not a chog. For one thing it can't spray and pray.
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My main ride still remains the P47-25 but I have recently really enjoyed several sorties in the P51-B. It is really a sweet flying airplane and though the armament is weaker than what I am accustomed to I did get a kill in it my first time up.
The Yak 9T is also fun when straffing ground vehicles. That cannon definately does a number on them.
Havn't flown any of the new LW planes online, never cared for them much so I leave it to those who can really appreciate them.
(http://home.att.net/~lmluper/P47.jpg) (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)
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I do see quite a few La7's in the arena, but I see more Dora's. So I don't quite think the La7 is the new "scourge of the arena" like some people would like us to think (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
It will be interesting to see the stats for the new planes at the end of the tour.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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I agree with Vermillion. Wait until next TOD (thousand islands map) and you'll see hordes of C-Hogs and Nikis again: 4x20mm turbolasers (with plenty of ammo) are difficult to forget ...
P.S.: Verm, I took a look at the Ju87 manual but it is in italian ... I guess not so easy to read (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
GAT
4° Stormo Caccia - Knights (http://www.4stormo.it)
"The Eyeties are comparatively easy to shoot down. Oh, they're brave enough. In fact, I think the Eyeties have more courage than the Germans, but their tactics aren't so good. They are very good gliders, but they try to do clever acrobatics and looping. But they will stick it even if things are going against them, whereas the Jerries will run." (G.Beurling)
[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 03-14-2001).]
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Gatt, thanks for taking a look at the Ju87 manual (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) As you guessed however, I speak no Italian at all, so it would be essentially useless for me.
Keep an eye out for any new manuals in English if you get the chance (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thanks again
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Relative to the P51D:
LA7 = Too close to call
Fw190D9 = Excellent
P51B = Very Good
Tempest = Awesome
Arado = Very Good
TA-152 = Good
Yak9T = Very Good
Fw190F8 = Dud
Yeager
[This message has been edited by Yeager (edited 03-14-2001).]
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Guys... there seems to be a misconception that the Yak-9T is the same as the Yak-9U but with the big cannon. Nope thats not what we got. That is the Yak-9UT, and what we expected to get btw.
What we got is the Yak-9T.
Basically the Yak-9T is a Spit V with a BFG 37mm cannon.
I don't think I would rate it "very good" versus the P-51D, since unless the Pony driver gets very stupid, the Yak-9T can not do anything but try to pull into the attack and get the lucky HO ping O Death from the BFG.
Aside from the "wow" factor of the cannon, this plane would rate even lower than the Fw109F8. It is sloooooooowwwwww !!!!
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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I too have had my faith in the P51-D strengthened after match-ups with Doras, La-7s, etc. I have also flown and been impressed by the Dora, 51-B, and 190F8. I
didn't see that the Ta 152 was much good for
anything other than very long high altitude patrols (it seems to have an enormous amount
of fuel capacity). The p51-B has better camo
than the D (obviously), and as in WB, people
tend to ignore it at their risk.
The biggest surprise for me was how well the 190F8, considering its' intended role as an attack craft.
handled.
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verm its the contemporary of the spit 9, not V. below 10k feet they perform similarly (spit 9 and yakt)
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The LA-7 kill ratio is currently less than 1:1; reports of its uberness were greatly exaggerated :-)
Note the Dora is quite a bit over 1:1 and climbing; saw a lot of stupid turnfighting with it the first 3-4 days of the release which is now much reduced.
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Heh torgo my guesses are that the dweebs have migrated to the LA-7 to some extent, after asking "wot, my fiter cannot turn properly?" after flying the D9 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://stsanta.tripod.com/stSanta.jpg)
"Live to pull, pull to live"
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It was the lure of the La-7 (plus the vapid idiocy of the WB WW2 arena) that led me to try Aces High for real. I've wanted the La-7 for a decade - having spent countless years in Air Warrior fighting uber-Spits with no real counter. The La-7 could spank the Spit with ease. Plus, I'm half-Russian.
The La-7 is simply a fun, fun ride. For low to medium altitude work, not too far from base, it's the best tool for the job. But it's also fine for scrambling to snag 25K Lanc's and B17's ... 3 20mm are 3 20mm, afterall.
The D9 is what I like for everything else (being an old Fw driver anyway). Fast, strong, respectable firepower, good ammo load, drop tank available for long patrols. This is the first D9 FM I've driven that *feels* like what I imagined a D9 should feel like. No idea if its right or wrong, but it feels right.
P51B is nice ... I always like to see early war planes in the mix for scenario use. Early-war events tend to turn work out better for some reason - maybe since the planes all have limitations people have to work together better to be effective.
Ain't bothered with the perk planes yet since I only been here a week. I have the plane I always wanted, so I'm happy. Now if we can just get a Sturmovik ... I'd really be happy.
-DoK
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Dok from WB? You wouldn't know me, but if you are that guy, do you plan on staying here? I remember your webpage, it was really cool.
-SW
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Heh torgo my guesses are that the dweebs have migrated to the LA-7 to some extent, after asking "wot, my fiter cannot turn properly?" after flying the D9
I'll post some charts when I get home. I think this may be an incorrect assumption.
BTW, most of the D9s I have killed have not been turning. They've been trying to BnZ. They dive into a furball and climb out.. always suprised that the guy that didn't dive in behind them was waiting for them to do just that. Actually, the only guys I've seen turning the 190D have been the LW "experten". I think you are slightly confused as to whome needs to get used to what (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
AKDejaVu
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There is only one true "DoK."
I did a major revamping of my sites last summer. Used to be spread across 3 ISP's, now all in one place. Added a few new things too (if you have a high speed line, check out "Dirty Deeds Done With Sheep"). URL is http://www.gonzoville.com/DoK/. (http://www.gonzoville.com/DoK/.)
I'm thinking I'll stay a while. Starting to look at the terrain editor. There's a 3-country terrain concept I've had for 10 years which maybe I can try out.
-DoK
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Excellent page Dok.. really nice.
I've heard the Dirty Deeds done with Sheep (Dirty Deeds and their done with sheep) before on Baltimore's 98Rock. They played it during the KML morning show.. it was hilarious!!!
Thanks for the link to your page!
-SW