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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: sling322 on May 11, 2002, 08:59:32 AM
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We have decided to move the Saturday TOD to Sunday for a tour. It seems that most of the folks that answered my unofficial poll would like to try it out on Sunday and see how it goes. We have a few new squads who have signed up and hopefully attendance will be up this tour compared to the last one.
We are in the process now of getting the new guys (Grayarea and Bikekil) up to speed and hope to start the next Euro-TOD sometime before the end of the month. I am not real sure on the dates right now, but as soon as I get them I will pass them along to you. It looks like Grayarea is going to run a Pacific setup this tour but I am unsure of the details. I will ask him to pop in here and give you guys and girls a taste of what he is designing.
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what time on Sunday?
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eh??? there goes the pacrim participants... :(
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Same time that it is currently held I believe. I think that it starts at 3pm eastern US time.
Sorry about the time conflict with the Pac-rim guys FD. I wish we could please everybody all the time, but its just impossible. What times are good for the Pac-rim guys....maybe we can find a suitable compromise for the next go around.
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Originally posted by sling322
Sorry about the time conflict with the Pac-rim guys FD. I wish we could please everybody all the time, but its just impossible. What times are good for the Pac-rim guys....maybe we can find a suitable compromise for the next go around.
how about 5pm EST Saturday, it would be 7am Sunday in Japan, 10am Sunday in NewZealand, and 10pm Saturday in Great Britain, 11pm Saturday in Germany.
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Sundays better for me anyway.
Swoop
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Originally posted by Swoop
Sundays better for me anyway.
would you be able to fly if it was like 11am Sunday (GMT) morning for you?
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11am? getting up before 2pm on sunday just cant be done.....specially after staying up til 5am saturday morning for Friday TOD.
:D
Swoop
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Originally posted by Swoop
11am? getting up before 2pm on sunday just cant be done.....specially after staying up til 5am saturday morning for Friday TOD.
ahhh.... so that's the reality... having another TOD on a saturday really bites then... I can see that... hmmm...
oh well... gotta think some more...
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I really cant understand why we are having two diffrent TODīs
The most logically thing would be to have the same TOD on two different times on Friday evening, the first (euro TOD) on 3:00 pm Estern time (21:00 CET) and the second (U.S. TOD) on 10:00 pm Estern time
(I would really like the euro TOD to move to Friday ;) )
It would not strain the CMīs that much if it was the same setup, and then maybe we could have a snapshoot on sat or sunday
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Well, the Euro TOD not only benefits the Euro guys, but MANY other folks too. Moving it to Friday might effect attendance dramatically.
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I'm in Sydney so a Sunday time slot only works if it converts to between 5 and 7 am (ie. 2 - 4pm Sunday EST). Any later and I'm on the way to work (or should be)...
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Sundays not so good for me either.... 1500 EST makes it 9pm start over here.... That's about the time I usually hit the sack for work early monday morning. How come the change anyway?
I'd hate to think that it was just to satisfy morons like TheFatz who made an bellybutton out of himself the last time in TOD, crying just because not enough of his squad attended.
But thats just my 2 cents.
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The reason is that the last Saturday TOD was not well attended. In Sling's poll to the CO's there was considerable interest in moving it to Sunday.
Now that we announce Sunday...we are hearing a similar amount of disappointment.:confused:
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well... this is a view from my side...
3pm EST (or 3pm EDT) is 5am Japan Standard Time (or 4am). I will have to wake up about half an hour to an hour prior to the event... which will be time to milk the cows!
I tried this for one Saturday TOD, waking up early on Sunday morning, kids would be waking up just about the time when the frame ends, but my brains would be too shot up even to say Good Morning. (not that I got shot down in the frame... although I did get shot down :D kinda tells you what kinda of mind I had while flying...)
Hence I took a break from the Saturday TOD for the last tour or so.
Would I want to do this on a Monday morning before work is something I would like to avoid. I wish I could just sit there and get paid but reality says no...
Friday TOD is also a problem in some ways... it starts 1PM (or 12Noon) which is right smack in the middle of the day. Kinda get canned at home for the whole Saturday. (something my squad mates wanted to avoid for their Saturday for the Saturday TOD)
Of course, we can't please everyone. There is absolutely no way.
So, what can we say from this all... to please everyone, we have to have three different time slots for TOD, one for US, one for Europe, and one for PACRIM. Kinda want to volunteer to start one but... the commitment it takes... I have to consider. Well, maybe I will consider this when AH 1.10 comes out with the Pacific Plane set. It would be more of interest for the PACRIM players.
well... just my thoughts...
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Originally posted by skernsk
The reason is that the last Saturday TOD was not well attended. In Sling's poll to the CO's there was considerable interest in moving it to Sunday.
Now that we announce Sunday...we are hearing a similar amount of disappointment.:confused:
No matter what day and time it is moved to, it is impossible to please everybody. I think 3 pm is a good compromise for the majority of participants.
Saturday was not good for Europeans, as many of us like to have a bit of a social life outside of AH (yes, there is a world out there! :D ) on Saturday evening. Friday would be OK for Europeans, but we would be pretty much alone and I think numbers would suffer tremendously without being buffered by US players.
That leaves Sunday as the only other viable day, and that is when quite a few of us are used to flying in special events over the past few years.... :)
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My 2 concerns are these.
1. the former post stated that only CO's were to post their preference. Ok, well that was good, but I wasn't a CO so I didn't post. I personally will try to make Sundays, but there is a much less chance of making it then if it stayed on Saturdays.
2. Is moving the scenario from Saturday to sunday going to fix the numbers? The only way to find out for sure is to try it, so I have no problem with it. But if you take the numbers for the MA during Saturday/Sunday 1500 est... I doubt that you are going to have better attendance, and probably less so. I think what you will find, is that you still have the numbers problem, just different people playing.
56th FG is going to attend no matter what, as they actively support the TOD scenarios. Therefore, I will try to support my squad as much as possible.
Really, you guys have another tough problem on your hands. If you move days, keep same time, then probably still a numbers problem, you might gain a few people, but you lose a few people too. If you move time, and stay the same day, then in order to increase numbers you would have to move the TOD to a later time frame. But then that again presents problems for european players, and I know that the weekend TOD is to help us, and am grateful.
Again, obviously there is no way to please everybody.
So one last question :
How's it feel to be between a rock and a hard place?
:D j/k.
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Originally posted by Kronos
So one last question :
How's it feel to be between a rock and a hard place?
:D j/k.
Heh heh....so when are you applying to join us? :p
One other quick thing....when I made the post asking the COs to reply, I figured that was the easiest way to get a response without it degenerating into a flame war between guys that preferred one day over the other. I figured the COs would discuss it with their guys and then post in my thread and let me know what they wanted. I hope that is what happened in most cases.
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hehe.... I made the offer a long time ago m8 :) ... was never taken up though. Now, my time is consumed by work, college, and soon, with getting my A&P license. I am finding it hard to find time to fly now, though I do still manage a few hours a week. :D
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1. the former post stated that only CO's were to post their preference. Ok, well that was good, but I wasn't a CO so I didn't post. I personally will try to make Sundays, but there is a much less chance of making it then if it stayed on Saturdays.
exactly the same goes for me2. Is moving the scenario from Saturday to sunday going to fix the numbers? The only way to find out for sure is to try it, so I have no problem with it.
yes, if thats the case I can live with sundays for sureI figured the COs would discuss it with their guys and then post in my thread and let me know what they wanted.
Thats not what happend (hope im not getting kicked out of squad now:p )my CO just figured sundays is a good day for some in squad(and maybe it is for the majorority of pilots I dont know), but I did not diskuss it with hole squad thats why im expressing my thouts in this post.(this is just my personal oppinion not the hole squads oppinion)
Anyway lets try the sundays and se if numbers go up.
But all CMīs should have a big for trying to please everyone to have the numbers up on both TODīs