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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: RoyofCA on May 12, 2002, 12:06:17 AM
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*EDIT* This problem is solved, please see my last post on this thread for details *EDIT*
I have the geforce 2 mx 400 on a intel celeron (don't laugh, it's paid for) at 533 with approx 200 mb ram running windows 98 Second Edition.
After a few minutes of play, the game stutters horrid, as if I was getting .3 frames a second (yes .3) yet my indicator says 43 fps. All controls lock, stick locks, voice still works but only receiving, and it's just as choppy.
Already ruled out sound card, so it can not be that. Direct x is up to date and running check says DX is running great.
I have tried the 12.41, 23.11, and 28.32 drivers. I would try the 12.11(version # correct?) but I can't remember wtf I did with it and I can't find site with old drivers.
This has probably been covered, and a simple link would work for me, if anyone would be so kind. Thanks everyone.
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is your harddrive paging when this happens?
anything at all running in the background?
SKurj
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If you calm down and think about what you want to say first you may not sttuudder..... now if your computer on the other hand.....
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Is your geforce overclocked? If it is, set it to normal - could be overheating.
Other reasons I could think of is sound and sound drivers.
But mostly I'd expect the reason to be your celeron cpu. I had almost a similar setup some time ago and whenever I played castle wolfenstein2 and something exploded, the system started stuttering like you described.. But with replacing the cpu to a faster model it stoped stuttering.
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Do you have anything else running at the same time as AH? I have a problem with Zone Alarm (Firewall), The display shows 50- 60 FPS but what I actually see is like a slideshow. (So I kill ZA befoere starting AH). Try killing everything apart from "systray" & "explorer" before you log on. (Just a thought). If this solves the problem re introduce things one by one until the problem returns.
TTFN
snafu
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Originally posted by RoyofCA
I have the geforce 2 mx 400 on a intel celeron (don't laugh, it's paid for) at 533 with approx 200 mb ram running windows 98 Second Edition.
After a few minutes of play, the game stutters horrid, as if I was getting .3 frames a second (yes .3) yet my indicator says 43 fps. All controls lock, stick locks, voice still works but only receiving, and it's just as choppy.
Already ruled out sound card, so it can not be that. Direct x is up to date and running check says DX is running great.
I have tried the 12.41, 23.11, and 28.32 drivers. I would try the 12.11(version # correct?) but I can't remember wtf I did with it and I can't find site with old drivers.
You have QuickTime installed? If you do, the problem might be the QTUpdater trying to log on the internet while you are playing AH and hogging up bandwidth.
Ack-Ack
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The problem is fixed. Thank you to everyone that helped.
To fix this, I used 12.11 drivers. I never run anything in the background or overclock my graphics card. My celeron also never gives me trouble (except on occasion during a lunar eclipse). I have seen this happen in another game I played, and I tested it there as well.
12.11 drivers also seem to work for the other game, so I am now almost positive that was the problem.
Anyone know why newer drivers are messing me up?
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Originally posted by RoyofCA
The problem is fixed. Thank you to everyone that helped.
To fix this, I used 12.11 drivers. I never run anything in the background or overclock my graphics card. My celeron also never gives me trouble (except on occasion during a lunar eclipse). I have seen this happen in another game I played, and I tested it there as well.
12.11 drivers also seem to work for the other game, so I am now almost positive that was the problem.
Anyone know why newer drivers are messing me up?
I'm using the 29.20 Det XP drivers with a GeForce 2 MX 400 on a 950 Duron overclocked to 1.2GHz using Win98SE with no problems.
Are you running your AGP at 2x or 4x? Detonator XP drivers are defaulted at 4x AGP and if you're running your AGP at 2x, you'll see performance go down the crapper. Supposedly Detonator XP drivers auto-detect your AGP settings but sometimes it's like a crap shoot.
If you need a site where you can download all the Nvidia drivers, official and beta releases, go here to Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com) . You should also check out the GeForce FAQ (http://www.geforcefaq.com/faq.html) , it might help in finding out why you can't use newer drivers.
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I use 27.10 drivers
One thing to check when u install new drivers, by default they may turn ON 3D antialiasing which will be a huge performance hit for you.
Just another thing to look at
SKurj
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I forgot to mention my card is pci.
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its back again. guess the drivers did not fix it.
Tried everything I can think of, please help.
I can not play AH.
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anything in the systray bottom right? in windows?
winamp, zonealarm?
likely something runnin in background that u aren't aware of
SKurj
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RoyofCA how much ram does your box have?
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nothing in background and control + alt+ del verifies this
I have exactly 191mb ram
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Kyro II here. Had the same effect in another game. Must be a kind of memory overload.
Had to uncheck "render until flip" in the DirectX video properties . My advice: try to change your settings. However I don't know which settings are appropriate for your card.
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First, "change settings" is like saying "find something"
its vague, does you no good, and confuses you into doing alot of stuff that are a waste of time (I.E. changing everyone of my settings until everything works, which i've already done oddly...). No offense, thanks anyway for trying bud.
Second, I got it working for a few days, and now it is back AGAIN. It will not stop this time either, so I am back to not playing AH.
I really hope I get a response soon. It has been days now. This time it happened as the bishops lost hq radar and I was about to lead a resupply mission.
I am kind of bummed, but I guess problems happen, so I will keep paying, as long as I can fix this before my next billing cycle.
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Originally posted by RoyofCA
First, "change settings" is like saying "find something"
its vague, does you no good, and confuses you into doing alot of stuff that are a waste of time (I.E. changing everyone of my settings until everything works, which i've already done oddly...). No offense, thanks anyway for trying bud.
Second, I got it working for a few days, and now it is back AGAIN. It will not stop this time either, so I am back to not playing AH.
I really hope I get a response soon. It has been days now. This time it happened as the bishops lost hq radar and I was about to lead a resupply mission.
I am kind of bummed, but I guess problems happen, so I will keep paying, as long as I can fix this before my next billing cycle.
Try this....
Go to Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com) and download Detonator Destroyer.
Next go to Nvidia's (http://www.nvidia.com) website and download the latest official Detonator XP drivers, 28.32 I think.
Now run Detonator Destroyer and follow the instructions on completely uninstalling the Detonator XP drivers from your system.
After you've done that, install the Detonator XP drivers you've just downloaded. Reboot the computer and once back in Windows, reinstall DirectX 8.1.
Do not try to overclock your card once you've reinstalled the drivers. Try logging on AH first and see if it works.
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I have the same card, the GeForce2 MX which only has 16 Megs VRAM. But I have this card with a Sony Intel P4 1.3 Gig machine and I get them stutters at times too. It's not so bad that the game is unplayable, but it is kinda weird and takes away from the feel of a smooth flight. Also, I don't always get them, just occasionally. Like you, I shut everything off in the background before I play and that doesn't seem to do didly-squat in terms of it happening or not. And I have the most recent driver...that Detonater one someone else mentioned. I do really think it's the small VRAM causing the problems.
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I have talked with nvidia.
Due to the conditions of where I live (california) the geforce card I have is known to fail.
To solve this I have to have a big old floor fan going just to cool down my vid card (even though my temp says it should be fine)
I have absolutely no idea why nvidia would make a card that could not withstand temps of 90 (outside, lower inside) but I made sure and told the BBB about what horrible customer service I got (a month to respond? no, that is poor service) and about their less-than-quality products.
Sorry but it looks like you guys were right, the card sucks, and even at mildly-high temps it can overheat and/or explode:eek: (nvidia's words not mine) so thank you for the help everyone, and I promise to never by another nvidia/geforce product ever again .
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i recently replaced a first gen gf2mx (non 200/400 etc) 32mb sdr
I thot it was a GREAT card for the price. The only issues i had with the card were drivers, i settled on a beta set.. 27.10's.. which as it turns out work best for me still, and now I use a gf4 mx 440 64mb ddr
SKurj
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Originally posted by RoyofCA
I have talked with nvidia.
Due to the conditions of where I live (california) the geforce card I have is known to fail.
Would you mind telling me which of these beauties you so proudly own? I also have a GeForce 2 AGP 64Meg and have gotten some very weird stuff happening... Mine is a Vision Tek card.
Drivers are a pain... FR fluctuates drastically. Went from a VooDoo 3 PCI 16Meg card about 8 months ago and my FR went up - but nearly as much as I expected - about 10 FPS...
I think I might be in the market for a Radeon Card soon...
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BigMax... what cpu are u using?
10fps kinda implies you don't have enough power behind the video card.
SKurj