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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MrSiD on April 23, 2001, 01:19:00 PM
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Let's do some research here..
All those who would prefer flying in a historic arena with historic settings, rolling planeset, no combat trim, no autotakeoff..
Just as close to the real thing that it gets..
Give your voice here. Maybe (just maybe) there would be enough players to play in both arenas side by side..
I'm with this group.
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I flew mostly in the WB HA,and I can't wait
until AH gets one.
Snapshots, CheckSix's and special events are no substitute for an arena that will be up all the time - many times I can't make events due to scheduling difficulties.
I hope the community is approaching critical mass where there are enough of us to support it. Why leave the SEA emtpy except for special events? Through up a user-designed terrain, an approprite planeset mix for the terrain and let's go!
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I would think that if HTC has the resources available to them to do so, (Net Bandwidth and Server Bandwidth) without any added cost to them for implementation, it would be a good 'test' to see if it's what the comunity needs/wants. However, It may be a matter of extra cost to HTC and may not be economicaly sound to perform such a 'test' without guaranteed return. As it stands now, there are considerations when flying events in the special arenas, considerations of launch times, and max num of players which would suggest that HTC does not currently have a surplus of said bandwidth.
It would be nice to see though.
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Yes, for HA! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I like the idea of an HA, but I can't think of a single way to execute it without some kind of monitors in place. WBs seems to be coming close, but I can't help but notice the large ammount of debate over its implimentation.
I would forgoe an HA for a semi-constantly CM monitored arena that operates on a squad based concept. A squad shows up at a scheduled time, recieves their flight plan and procedes to target. Things can be created to make it either a challenge or a cakewalk.. the squad never knows for sure. All they really know is what type of aircraft the squad flies (all the same planes). Now that would be historical.
AKDejaVu
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I vote yes to HA but have no interest in disabling CT or auto takeoff. You don't like them, fine, just disable them on your system.
Mav
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I personaly would probly not fly in a boring same ol same ol varietyless HA but have nothing against having a seperate arena for those who would like it.
lazs
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An arena with historical (rolling perk?) planesets and more demanding icons would be worth a try, imho.
Camo
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where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Historical Arena, and I'd probably fly there, but I'm not crazy about the idea. Other than the planeset, I just don't see anything about a HA that would be 'historical', unless the whole arena design were vastly different than what we have now.
What I'd rather see would be more evening events similar to AW's Warnights, where for a few hours you'd get a certain planeset, limited (but more than one) lives, and maybe some objectives. (Is this what Check-Six events are like? I've never gotten to attend one.) This way, there'd always be something different and interesting going on, not just stale old arena play with a limited planeset. It would also give more people a chance to fly early/mid war planes against their contemporaries without having to create another arena, or change the MA in any way.
Then again, it would be a loooot of work for somebody.
anRky
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Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, and my squad.
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Walt (buhdman) Barrow
(formerly lt-buhd-lite)
The Buccaneers - "Return with Honor"
home.earthlink.net/~wjbarrow
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me, though I'm not holding my breath.
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I like the idea, but it doesn't seem to me that we have enough players yet to fill two arenas.
Medium-peak times (i.e. the time Europeans get in from work) will be back to 1.03 days (when I first started playing) - with just a couple of dozen players on. I can't see how that can be a good thing.
How will it be implemented? Allies vs Axis over historical maps? How can you get the Western and Eastern fronts on one map without having a ridiculous scale multiplier?
Or will the Russian or Japanese or Italian planeset be dumped for part of a tour?
What a great idea. Not.
I'd rather see more special events, with more historical match-ups (with no 'stand-ins') with a mission editor containing more features (bug free) over historical terrains.
[This message has been edited by Dowding (edited 04-23-2001).]
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I personally would do whatever it takes to get a Historical arena goin and keep it filled
as I spent alot of time in the wb ah arena as well
so yeah bring it on
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Skrbrofr
CO Hells Angels
3rd squad A.V.G
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Yes i want HA but we need also MA .
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IMHO AH does not have a sufficient planeset to make an interesting HA.
The only historical setup for which they have modelled most of the correct planes is 1944-45 defense of the Reich. Even there we are missing some very important planes, and in any case I find that kind of fighting quite tedious.
If they would concentrate on one time period and theater and model ALL the required planes then we could do something. But with the "scatterbrain" plane choices so far we can't do much. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Funked here's one that we can do:
Ju88s, 109F4s/G2s and 190A5s.
Lancasters, B26s, SpitVs, SpitIXs and a P51B.
No B17Gs though... and someone could make an English channel terrain.
Or use Med terrain, 109F4s, Ju88s and 190A5s(190A3s) against SpitVs, SpitIXs, Lancasters and B26s.
-SW
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I would enjoy it - especially if icons were ditched. But would there be enough interest in it to have more than 10 or so players online at a time - which is what happened at the WB HA, where only on rare occasions (like squad nights) would you find enough nmes in the HA to make a visit worth while.
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YES.
but we need to keep MA too for the non-historical people (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) or just to mess around in.
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Chuck Perry
"Sky61"
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Me
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HA in AH? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) YES for Chrissake!!!!
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~Kirin~
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[This message has been edited by Kirin (edited 04-23-2001).]
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Sure, me too.
I am partly there already. Don't use Auto Combat trim (never have for that matter) or Auto Take-off (unfortunatily used once or twice before I turned it off - what a joke). Am starting to use less and less auto-trim.
delta - now fGonzo
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You get my vote.
I have in many treads lately advocated for a two arena setup. Something which developed in WB after many years of experimenting with arenas an various setups.
Let me describe it again:
One arena is called "The Combat arena". Here you have the full choice of planes, easy mode if you like it, full dot-radar on map, full range icons. All is made easy for those who want to spend the least possible time on finding targets, and who just want a shootout and furballing experience. This is a multi-sided arena as in AHs MA, and is what in WB resembles AHs main arena most.
Then you have the "WW2 Arena". This is a two sided allie/axis arena for those who want the historical aspect and a more challenging flying environment. Here there is a rolling plane set from early to late war during the tour of duty (ToD). Full realism is forced on (no easy mode). Dot-radar on inflight-map is disabled. Only when in tower you have dot-dar. Lethality of guns are reduced to 80% (makes it harder to kill, but more fun i think). Icon range is reduced.
Dont let this down just because it comes from Warbirds. Remember, WB has developed its gameplay for many more years than AH. Learning from others are a good feature, and with regards to these issues Warbirds have good features to be adapted in AH.
Picking the best features from other sims can only enhance AH and secure that it keep its lead as best WW2 planeset sim.
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I would. I'd like a real terrian like the Norway and the Med that we have. Now for more terrians for the Pacific area.
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YES!!
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I WOULD LIKE IT TOO BUT YA GOING TO NEED A GOOD TEAM TO WORK ON IT .(opps capps to lazy to fix it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ).. and will take a lot to set up but i think worth wild (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) so i say go for it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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DRILL
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If we can get some more allies and axis aircraft, sure, put my vote down as a JAWOL!
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yes
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?" Famous quote from Animal House, John Belushi.
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Originally posted by MrSiD:
All those who would prefer flying in a historic arena with historic settings, rolling planeset, no combat trim, no autotakeoff.
Still don't understand the big deal with combat trim... it's convenient, but if I read some of the posts here on AHBBS, it's more advantageous to turn it off.
WRT to the HA... I'm more interested in seeing an axis/allied arena... similar vs. similar fights aren't nearly as interesting as similar vs. dissimilar.
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Me, sort of. I'd like to see an axis/allied arena - historical sides, if not a historical terrain, with reduced enemy icon range/info perhaps.
Cheers
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Yes i'd like to see an AvA arena. It's closer to historical than an MA environment.
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YES PLEASE.....I love AH but I want to fly for Japan (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) It sucks flying for a chess piece!
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[This message has been edited by brady (edited 04-23-2001).]
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I vote yes as well. However, I agree with others that point out that while it would be relatively easy for HTC to create a HA there might not be enough people flying in one. That was often the case in Warbirds- you had three or four planes filling all of north western Europe.
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HA was all I cared to play in WB.
flew the P-38's in the pacific and 109s in the ETO and loved it.
yes to HA in AH but it wont ever happen so not holding breath either.
[This message has been edited by Citabria (edited 04-23-2001).]
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S!
I like it a lot.
No icons as well, even more realistic.
I almost always fly german iron.
Greetings,
FB.
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Historical Arena would be my MAIN Arena, if there was such (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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count me in !!
only problem is, it would be restricted to the western front - '43/'44 war over Europe.
no planes for Battle of Britain, Eastern front, Pacific, North Africa etc. :-(
Goner
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All for this. Add to the realism settings an appropiate one for Radar.
Cheers,
Pepe
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Intrested!
Broes
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I'm interested, but understand the need for a larger player base before such a one is implemented.
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Would definately want one, the WB HA, although still the most popular WB arena does end up in a switching fest because of the Rolling Plane Set.
How we combat that, not sure, some good ideas around.
Definately would want the icons to be turned off.
Has anyone thought about a Bomber? The axis dont have a Hvy Buff, but jabo works just as well.
(Babling now, will stop) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
VoX
Peekaboo.
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Despite the mess it became in WB, I want one!!
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Thud1/Bies
Bring the Hurricane (MKIIC) to AH! (together with the Invader!)
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(Raises Hand) Yes!
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Another vote for HA.
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Another yes.
Unfortunately, I don't think it'll work so hot. I'd almost say you'd have to close down the MA for it to be worthwhile. Reason being (as stated previously in this thread) no one will show.
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yup
danish
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By now you all know I am of this.
There has been some arguments of not having enough planes and players for such a settup. A quick research tells me that those arguments are not relevant.
AH today have more players online than WB at most times. Still there are always players in both arenas in WB. More than enough for good gameplay.
I play AH at many different times. I see that online numbers vary between 70-240 approximately. There are most players online during US playing hours. Less when the US population sleeps.
I find it actually more fun to play when the numbers are low. Then you can get some realy nice fights. Engaged with an enemy you can often fight for minutes without other planes interfering.
At the populated time of MA you can hardly make a single turn with another fighter before several others comes in to break up the fun.
The choise of planes is adequate. It would be nice to see CHog on one side and Niki on the other (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Should secure that you have enough players on each side.
Instead of a rolling plane set from early to late war we could have two sets: "Early to Mid War" and "Mid War to Late War". The current plane set should cater for this.
The LW has a limitation in buff and jabo planes. However, with the Arado they still have more than in WB. The Ju88 is a quite capable bomber and have the advantage of good capacity for fleet attacks with torpedoes. A jabo plane like the 110 would give LW a better balance.
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Originally posted by Fokker:
The choise of planes is adequate. It would be nice to see CHog on one side and Niki on the other (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Should secure that you have enough players on each side.
*grins and laughs* Too funny!
Anyways, I'd vote for a HA, definitely with some sort of fixed/rolling plane set. I can't remember who said it, but it was something like only 20 CHogs actually flew in WWII (sorry if I messed up the actual number.) So having that plane (or other rarely used rides) available for a HA doesn't make sense to me (from a historical viewpoint. I'm all for the fly what you want, when you want, how you want philosophy in the MA.)
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yes HA plz
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Hazed
3./JG2 (http://members.home.net/winyah999/3jg2.htm)
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YES!, . .i hate the MA.
i'd be happy with next to no icons and limited lives too.
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Daniko the madfish
3./JG2 (http://members.home.net/winyah999/3jg2.htm)
".... Suddenly he stopped in the middle of the room and stood there staring. His voice was blurred, and his behavior that of a completely abnormal person. He spoke in staccato phrases; "If there should be war, then I shall build U-boats, build U-boats, U-boats, U-boats, U-boats." His voice became more indistinct and finally one could not follow him at all. Then he pulled himself together, raised his voice as though addressing a large audience and shrieked: " I shall build airplanes, build airplanes, airplanes, airplanes, and I shall annihilate my enemies." He seemed more like a phantom from a storybook than a real person. I stared at him in amazement and turned to see how Goering was reacting, but he did not turn a hair...." {Dahlerus, Birger; August 26th, 1939}
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Hate to be the dead fish, but no. Saw the transformation in WB to the HA. Which was unsuccessful in my opinion. At best, it separates pilots from the MA and will lessen the attendance in that arena. As we all know, "nobody in MA, nobody wants to PLAY!"
I think Lazs (the old one) has delineated the basic reason we all play. Fly and Kill. It's pretty much that basic. Or in the wingless club, Drive and Kill. None the less, it's primal basic instincts that drive all of us to this silly game. Rules here kind of revolve around the fluidity of the moment. Some good and some bad.
Because many people in AH like to fly and excel in certain AC. It's kind of hard to think that people with lives want to, or have time to master this arena. Not to mention have fun doing it.
Having a dedicated arena with HA plane sets will do no more than start a pissing contest about where the best pilots should fly. The answer is neither. Keep the MA as the focal point and make whatever changes need to be done to satisfy as many pilots as possible.
Will bet many AHers feel this way.
My thoughts
wizzer
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I think Lazs (the old one) has delineated the basic reason we all play. Fly and Kill. It's pretty much that basic. Or in the wingless club, Drive and Kill. None the less, it's primal basic instincts that drive all of us to this silly game. Rules here kind of revolve around the fluidity of the moment. Some good and some bad.
I dont care so much about "fly and kill".
I get more fun out of:
-Keeping my virtual pilot alive.
-Keeping my wingies and leader alive.
-Flying succesfull sorties with good teamwork.
Scoring kills is nice bonus, but not necessary.
This kind of flying is more revarding and fun for me than heading to nearest furball to rack some kills.
Not everyone of us thinks like Lazs
You and Lazs can go to MA and have fun your way, I'll go somewhere else. Be it HA or maybe some other sim.
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I think it allways boils down to what is wanted out of a sim. I believe that i, and a lot of others are perenial newbies... we have lives that are busy and full. we get on to get away from hard work and organization not to add to it.
The learning curve is steep in flight sims... maybe steeper than any other games. New people are daunted by the complexity. The old vets and people who... well, who get very into sims... master everything by spending countless hours on line they come within a hairbreadths of being burned out and demand even more complexity to keep them interested...
Thats all fine but there is only a small core of these guys... I don't really care about these flabby vets in any case. Truth be known.... most are just looking for an edge...an advantage, anyway....I enjoy the newbie a lot more. i wnat new blood and lots of it. I want a game that has perfectly modeled FM's and damage etc. but that has a lot of action and variety and parity.
Those are the things that attract me and those are the things that bring in new guys. HA's and allied vs axis and complex, punitive strat are all the bane of a fun flight sim for all but a core of dedicated types.
lazs
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I vote yes!! No icons and kill shooter off, Thats about as realistic as we can get. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I vote yes.
I think auto-takeoff & combat trim are of no consequence..if u don't like it turn it off.
A reduced icon setting should be fun.
I would enjoy the stress of trying to make out a silouhete for freindly or enemy.
Fighters with camo should enjoy the advantages of blending in with the ground as it was.
Snorkey
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I'm in...
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Oh, hell yeah. Problem is I never liked the idea of splitting the customer base. It makes for not enough people in any one arena to suit me. Would rather see 1 arena roll into historic mode 1 week out of the month.
CRASH
Originally posted by MrSiD:
Let's do some research here..
All those who would prefer flying in a historic arena with historic settings, rolling planeset, no combat trim, no autotakeoff..
Just as close to the real thing that it gets..
Give your voice here. Maybe (just maybe) there would be enough players to play in both arenas side by side..
I'm with this group.
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Lazs, your arguments are the best I have seen yet for having two arenas like in WB. The Combat Arena for you and your likes, and a WW2 aena for me and my likes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) There are more vets than you seems to think, and newbies become vets after awhile.
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I'll say yes to this one as well. I agree AH does not yet have anywhere near the customer base to support more than 1 arena full time but handing over one of the arenas one night a week would probably work. I find that once the numbers in the MA hit 200+ I seem to experience far more "Warp & Lag" issues. Sharing the load at peak times might benefit both arenas in the long term.
TTFN
snafu
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Yes to HA. In regards to it being "way to complex" is a bunch of nonsense. The idea that it caders to some very "small minority of vets", that is also nonsense. I get a kick out of the furor that *some* "MA" types kick up at the idea of giving us something other than THEIR preffered brand of play.
[This message has been edited by Taur (edited 04-26-2001).]
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Aye to the Historical arena! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
gos
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Three comments:
1. I think it would be a good idea to give players this opportunity. Let it rise or fall on resultant participation.
2. It will inevitably fragment the player base to some degree. If there are enough players in both arenas, however, this shouldn't be a "playbility" concern.
3. It will also inevitably result in an acrimonious split in the player group fueled primarily by ego. One group is going to view themselves as the "elite "true realism" players, "true fighter pilots", and view the other group as "easymode" players. This other group will characterize their detractors as "elitist snobs". It's happened in both AW and WB and it will happen here.
I don't have a problem with that either. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I always check my ego at the door when I login. I play for recreation, not to validate my life. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Just be aware that it WILL happen.
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Yes for the HA.
I'd like to throw in an additional idea for the Main Arena(if already mentioned, consider it a second vote).
Regional Plane sets. i.e. Certain regions of a map will allow defined plane sets to be flown. This could potentially allow historical matchups in a main arena map.
MiG
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I am always up for new options that don't eliminate old options. More is better. I would try HA on the days I have time, or I would stay in the MA on the days I don't.
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I'm all for an HA. The time has come.
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Count me in...
Jeff
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Yes
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ya got my vote.
It's frustrating at times getting into a furball where the nme has everthing from a A6M Zero to a PW190 Dora and everything in between for crying out loud. You are constantly having to switch tactics on the fly (literally) to meet all the threats and it's very difficult. Real aircombat may have only seen a few models in a single dogfight if at that (i.e. P51s and P47 escoring B17s being attacked by ME109s and PW190s). It will make the engagements more realistic.
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Originally posted by SpitLead:
It's frustrating at times getting into a furball where the nme has everthing from a A6M Zero to a PW190 Dora and everything in between for crying out loud. You are constantly having to switch tactics on the fly (literally) to meet all the threats and it's very difficult. Real aircombat may have only seen a few models in a single dogfight if at that (i.e. P51s and P47 escoring B17s being attacked by ME109s and PW190s). It will make the engagements more realistic.
I don't like no challenge either!
You couldn't take on a bunch of girlscouts singlehandedly!
-SW
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Only if I can still fly my CHOG!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) he he he I guess I could fly other planes for a while too though occasionally.
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I just counted 64 votes for YES...does that count for anything? Is that enough? Do we need to go over one hundred? Do we need to go to Texas and march to and fro in front of HTC in Toga's?? WHAT???
Then again, those folks are so damn busy trying to satisfy all the folks that want a new version a week after the release of the last one, it may not be feasible. But I'll bet someones taking notes for the future, this game will continue to grow, adding new arenas is only inevitable. Crowded arenas are not good for suitable frame rates or connects. Patience....
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65 now. I wouldn't even want to touch the main arena if there was a HA
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yes....would be my prefered arena.
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Historical would be great but at the moment all we could hope for is a historical terrain. As far as aircraft go, we do have a few historical match-ups but I think there's not enough to make a HA interesting.
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HA would be nice one or two days out of the week. I think it would get boring after a while. But that's just me. I have seen HA's implemented and have seen them die. They always do great for a couple of days or weeks then go by the wayside. 65 votes out of a possible what 2 or 3 thousand? Not many, sounds like a minority to me.
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2 or 3 thousand dont post here.
If someone didnt want it they could easily say "no" here.
67 votes out of 67 is pretty good, eh?
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No.
HA will simply create accrimony and discord, nothing else.
A HA will simply see players switch from one side to the other based on the best aircraft available, or if there is no rolling planeset the players will simply all go to the side with the best fighter.
I do not need snobs telling me how to play and I do not need to be restricted to flying for the RAF or Luftwaffe. I happen to like flying aircraft from each nationality once in awhile.
Where the hell do you guys get the idea that no icons would be more realistic? Is viewing these scenes on a 17" or 19" inch monitor even slightly realistic? No. No icons would be vastly less realistc than a modification of the existing icon system.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
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So what you're saying in effect is, that 90% of the customer base of Aces High are dweebs who blindly run after the easyest kills in the dweebest plane of the RPS.
To me this kind of attitude has always been a cornerstone in these online simulations (not only Aces high though..)
For me, it's challenging and fun to fight in lesser planes part of the time.. It gives this game a lot more variety than going to main where you're going to be gangbanged by hordes of n1ks and chogs.. Not to mention occasional Tempests etc.
Although IMO Tempests are way easyer to kill than N1K's 1:1.
I'm just wondering.. If nobody would go to the historic arena, how would that split up the customer base? I think there would be a dedicated group of players who prefer those settings and would gladly stay there even with smaller numbers.
And what goes to the main, changing from 250 players to 200 won't hurt it at all.. OTOH, 50 players playing 2 sides at HA is enough.
At least HT could give the idea a friggin chance! If it seems to go bad, they can always cancel it.
What about my idea of combining no icons to double size aircraft on arena? That would compensate for the small field of vision we have + make aircraft identification easyer from longer range + make spotting aircraft against ground about as easy as it was in reality.. There won't be icons to mark the planes, but the planes will look about as big as we experience them in real life.
Anyone else noticed how _small_ a lancaster looks like when you make a pass from it's tail at 50ft distance? That friggin thing should fill up your vision at that distance.
In the end, I think HT is more afraid that HA would prove to be so popular that it would kill MA like it did back at Warbirds. (Referring to the WW2 arena now, which is what we should refer to when creating our own, improved HA.)
One solution for the hardcore HA setting could be that: people joining HA get divided randomly to each side, so that player numbers on both sides will be about equal.
If a player ABSOLUTELY want's to change sides for some reason, he could use a few perk points to do that.. This would eliminate the side-changing after the dweebride of the TOD. If a player belongs to squad, there could be an option for a squad to fly axis or allied permanently. That would eliminate breaking up squads. Better yet, HA should have totally it's own squads because MA squads can consist of both LW and US/GB dedicated pilots.
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HA on the weekends or somthing like that. I would be the moderator and set it up most excellently.
No inflight radar/darbars
ground control radar only with no enemy darbars.
no cheesy windlayers
2x Fuel burn
2 sided historic front
enemy icons disabled, friendly icons to d3.0
15k rear field for bombers only with no acks and one BH (similar to wb airstart for buffs to promote formation buff missions without stupid hour climb).
acks rebuild times 2 hours.
everything else rebuild times normal (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
rediculous number of fields spaced perfectly for gameplay and fun
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hmm.. not sure if everyone is voting for the same thing... certainly a lot of people who voted "yes" would want it setup in ways that would not please even most of the other "yes" voters.
Ok... if we are talking an HA INSTEAD of the MA then my answeris a ringing NO... worst setup ever. boring, lopsided, and phony.
If, however, you are saying that you want an extra arena that will have an HA (or whatever) setup then sure.... why not? No one will go there anyway after a couple days/weeks.
lazs
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The icon problematics is another matter all together - a crompromise is called for here if lazs isnt going to be right ("No one will go there anyway after a couple days/weeks.
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Lets just keep it simple right now: yes or no.
danish
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I want the HA arena.
YES
AFFIRMATIVE
In that "other sim" I flew the HA constantly. I much prefer the historical match-up which made for much more fun.
Hatman, out