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Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Karnak on May 22, 2002, 01:26:16 AM
I thought some of you geeks might be amused by this article:

The Case for the Empire (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/248ipzbt.asp)
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 22, 2002, 01:57:41 AM
Agreed!  I always liked the Empire better, surprise huh? :)
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Hortlund on May 22, 2002, 03:26:49 AM
The Empire has the coolest uniforms.

In fact, when that MMOG Star Wars game comes out, I'm gonna join the empire the first thing I do.
 
Just think about (in no particular order)

Stormtroopers
Snowtroopers
Recon troopers
TIE fighter pilots
AT-AT drivers
All the officer unifroms, elegant and slick

cool cool cool

[edit] I almost forgot the heavy artillery guys (those who fired the Deathstar gun) how cool are those helmets? COOL COOL COOL


<--- a true geek
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Sikboy on May 22, 2002, 07:06:26 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
The Empire has the coolest uniforms.


Maybe for the enlisted men.. but the officer's uniforms are ubergay

-Sikboy
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Hortlund on May 22, 2002, 07:12:06 AM
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Originally posted by Sikboy


Maybe for the enlisted men.. but the officer's uniforms are ubergay

-Sikboy


Bah, what about the Rebel fighter pilots outfits? Bright shiny orange gayness.

The Imperial officers have cool combat uniforms (That General in the AT-AT in ESB...Veers?) With body armor and a cool helmet. cool cool cool.
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Jekyll on May 22, 2002, 08:15:51 AM
Just remember .....

Rule 43 of combat.

"The side with the simplest uniform wins".
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Sandman on May 22, 2002, 08:58:07 AM
What the article really says is that Lucas is a piss poor story teller.
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Sikboy on May 22, 2002, 09:03:14 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund


The Imperial officers have cool combat uniforms (That General in the AT-AT in ESB...Veers?) With body armor and a cool helmet. cool cool cool.
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Lol, that was going to be my example of lameness. Dude looks like he's going to start welding something any minute, but that Dr. No called, and wanted his 1960 Mandarin collar suite back :eek:

-Sikboy
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Hortlund on May 22, 2002, 09:06:11 AM
LOL well better lame than gay.

Take a look at the hippie-hair bands of the rebel snowtroopers. gay gay gay
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Sandman on May 22, 2002, 09:19:15 AM
I wonder if there were homophobes a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Udie on May 22, 2002, 09:26:02 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
LOL well better lame than gay.

Take a look at the hippie-hair bands of the rebel snowtroopers. gay gay gay




 I don't remember any 60's bands being in the starwars films?  Who was it Jeferson Airplane? :D
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: midnight Target on May 22, 2002, 09:37:35 AM
A gay guy would never cut open his 2 legged horse to warm his hands. :p
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: deSelys on May 22, 2002, 10:25:06 AM
I found the article amusing....until this:

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Make no mistake, as emperor, Palpatine is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like Pinochet.
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Nifty on May 22, 2002, 10:45:28 AM
I dunno, but the Emperor only surrounded himself with men, and white men at that!  I'd guess the Emperor isn't homophobic at all, quite the opposite in fact!  ;)  Tho a bit on the racist side.

(remember, only counting the movies!  Don't go pulling Mara Jade into this.  James Earl Jones voice doesn't count either)
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Octavius on May 22, 2002, 10:54:13 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund


Bah, what about the Rebel fighter pilots outfits? Bright shiny orange gayness.

The Imperial officers have cool combat uniforms (That General in the AT-AT in ESB...Veers?) With body armor and a cool helmet. cool cool cool.


General Maximillion Veers... my fav character :)  I agree GRUNHERZ, I've always been an Empire fan :D


And nifty, cc to that!  The Empire is extremely racist (er, prejudice towards aliens).  You can see the beginnings of this in Episode II when Anikin hacks the sandpeople apart.
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 22, 2002, 04:52:31 PM
If the Emperor is so racist how do you explain Darth Maul.....
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Animal on May 22, 2002, 05:00:51 PM
dart maul

the guy is so black he turned red and grew horns :o
my kind of guy, that maul..

did you know hes a relative of mine? oh boy you should see him drunk! tells the stranges stories, doesnt talk much when sober though..
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 22, 2002, 05:04:40 PM
I see drunkeness runs in the family. :)
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Dux on May 22, 2002, 05:06:19 PM
I see a definite Luftwobble => Empire connection here... :D
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Octavius on May 22, 2002, 06:21:03 PM
Darth Maul was killed years before the Empire even took shape Grunherz.  He was in Episode 1.  Now, under the control of a Sith Lord (Emperor Palpatine), things got a lil brutal.  :)
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: superpug1 on May 22, 2002, 06:39:44 PM
lol. I love it. Very true to. The ending is especially funny.:D
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 22, 2002, 11:42:32 PM
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Originally posted by Octavius
Darth Maul was killed years before the Empire even took shape Grunherz.  He was in Episode 1.  Now, under the control of a Sith Lord (Emperor Palpatine), things got a lil brutal.  :)



The Sith Lord, Darth Sidius,  is Palpatine, who becomes the Emperor.
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: -tronski- on May 22, 2002, 11:45:39 PM
Hooper: Bust this - those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down  even in a galaxy far, far away.
Check this toejam.  You got cracker farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy blond hair, blue eyes.
And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy.  Nubian God.
Banky: What's a Nubian?
Hooper: Shut the diddly up!  Now Vader, he's a spiritual brother, down with the force and all that toejam.  Then this cracker Skywalker gets his hands on a light-saber, and the boy decides he's gonna run the diddlying universe - gets a whole Klan of whites together, and they're gonna bust up Vader's `hood the Death Star.  Now what the diddly do you call that!
Banky: Intergalactic Civil War?
Hooper: Gentrification!  They're gonna drive out the black element, to make the galaxy quote, unquote `safe' for white folks.
And Jedi's the most insulting installment, because Vader's beautiful,          black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty white man!
They're trying to tell us that deep inside, we all wants to be white!
Banky: Well isn't that true?
Hooper: BLACK RAGE! BLACK RAGE!!  I'LL KILL  ANY WHITE FOLKS I LAY MY MOTHER diddlyIN' EYES ON!!!

 Tronsky
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Doberman on May 23, 2002, 02:47:26 PM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Hooper: Bust this - those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down  even in a galaxy far, far away.
Check this toejam.  You got cracker farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy blond hair, blue eyes.
And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy.  Nubian God.
Banky: What's a Nubian?
Hooper: Shut the diddly up!  Now Vader, he's a spiritual brother, down with the force and all that toejam.  Then this cracker Skywalker gets his hands on a light-saber, and the boy decides he's gonna run the diddlying universe - gets a whole Klan of whites together, and they're gonna bust up Vader's `hood the Death Star.  Now what the diddly do you call that!
Banky: Intergalactic Civil War?
Hooper: Gentrification!  They're gonna drive out the black element, to make the galaxy quote, unquote `safe' for white folks.
And Jedi's the most insulting installment, because Vader's beautiful,          black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty white man!
They're trying to tell us that deep inside, we all wants to be white!
Banky: Well isn't that true?
Hooper: BLACK RAGE! BLACK RAGE!!  I'LL KILL  ANY WHITE FOLKS I LAY MY MOTHER diddlyIN' EYES ON!!!

 Tronsky


From one of my favorite movies, this is quite possibly the funniest scene I've ever witnessed. :)

D
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Maniac on May 23, 2002, 02:56:50 PM
EHH?? what movie is this? i must witness this movie :)
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: Sandman on May 23, 2002, 02:59:54 PM
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CX9D.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

Kevin Smith rules. :)
Title: The Case for the Empire: Everything you think you know about Star Wars is wrong.
Post by: HFMudd on May 23, 2002, 03:09:14 PM
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The Imperial officers have cool combat uniforms (That General in the AT-AT in ESB...Veers?) With body armor and a cool helmet. cool cool cool.


Of course Imperial body armor is just for looks.  Either that or an Ewok bow has one bejesus of a pull!