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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SKurj on May 22, 2002, 06:44:07 PM
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one team outnumbering both other teams combined?
fact.. just can't be bothered to post SS.
How can guys fly for the outnumbering team?
SKurj
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What's really funny to me is how pathetic Bish performance is when you consider their numbers.
Every time I see even teams, I see Bish losing.
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Been wondering same. For 1 hour it's fun, then it gets lame fast. There seems to be a whole group of players who automatically join the team with the numbers.
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Since you put some sort of smiley on the subject, and there was little substance, you are disqualified for the WotW award.
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I think it's a genetic thing really..
I logged on the first time ever as a bish. First thing I noticed was all the Golly-gee Spits...
Well....
That was okay..I guess. But as time went on it was the high percentage of pilots with EXTRA appendages that made me uneasy...
Talking in tongues...
And pilots just sitting....staring into space..
With spittle in the corner of there mouth..
It_is_a_little_too_strange there....
I had to leave...
nopoop
( the rookie tour )
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How can guys fly for the outnumbering team?
Because we log in and don't look at the roster because we just want to get some kills and have fun and don't really care about numbers or landgrabporkfest.
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"landgrabporkfest" roflmao!
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What Funked said, plus the fact that some of us have always flown Bish and have a strange sort of affection for how we manage to suck it up even in the face of underwhelming odds. You gotta love us...we're kinda like the chicken hawk in foghorn leghorn cartoons!
SOB
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Originally posted by SOB
What Funked said, plus the fact that some of us have always flown Bish
SOB
LIAR!! +)
and how do u get kills when there are 50 billion teammates chasin the same con! +)
SKurj
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Originally posted by SKurj
LIAR!! +)
and how do u get kills when there are 50 billion teammates chasin the same con! +)
SKurj
Killstealing is an art:)
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It goes in circles guys, give it a rest. I've seen all three countries significantly outnumber the others lots of times and I've only been onboard AH for a little less than a year.5. You've got squads who switch sides "because they want to" or to help out the underdog, highly commendable. You've got squads who remain loyal to one country, thats commendable too. You've got other folks who ride all three chess pieces for no other reason than to get to know folks or get easier access to a furball...outstanding.
The only really sad part is the goofs who insist on the path of least resistance. They have nothing but inflammatory remarks for those who DO do the team-strato thing, yet they piggyback on the success of that very group of people to "get thier kills" the easy way (by outnumbering whoever). Thats kinda lame really.
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I've only been here a year or so, but I'll dispute that statement that 'it all goes in circles'. Except for a brief month long period when I first started, the Bish have enjoyed a numerical advantage for at least an unbroken string of 8 months. Now, as far as who is in the proverbial bucket, that tends to alternate between Rooks and Knights, as far as I can see.
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hello, my name is hangtime and i fly bishop.
i gangbang,
shoot chutes,
steal kills,
vultch and HO,
join fariz's landgrabporkfests,
rape kniggit and rook sheep
..and fart copiously on RW.
it's a dirty job; but but rewarding when we get it right.
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Numbers, schmumbers.
Having lots of Bish numbers has nothing to do with world conquest. We can't get organized no matter how many "numbers" we have.
It's why you see 347 light fighters over a small base and no goon within 233 miles of the place. It's why our buffs (all three guys) will be flattening an ack factory when we're down to our last 3 bases.
Trust me, if the Bish win a reset it's purely by accident.
I think that's why I like my fellow Bish and why I've stayed since day one. I love this attitude! :D
Still, I salute all you valiant fighters for the chess piece of your choice! May your chesspiece rule the bits & bytes maps! May your strategies be legendary. May your campaigns be sung around the campfire. Long may you conquer fanstasy worlds!
I think I'll just play to have fun, however. ;)
My plan's been working pretty well since beta but YMMV.
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Heh.. I guess there is a definate trend in AH. Folks that fly for the Bish are saying "Hell, it is great fun outnumbering the other teams combined, I don't see a problem with it", while folks that fly Rook or Knight see it as a problem.
I personally just look at the Bishops as targets anyway, most of their numbers seem to be fairly unskilled. Get enough of them together and they can overwhelm you though, I think that is what most people have a problem with.
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There's always that nagging possiblity that folks fly Bish precisely because (with the exception of a very few generals that are probably supposed to be in Knightland or Rookland but got lost on their way to world domination) we don't worry too much about a game.
Win a reset? Lose a reset? Perk points? pfffff. It's the shootin' that gets the adrenals pumping.
:D
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Toad.. you don't worry to much about a 'game' because it isn't a problem for you. You HAVE numbers, you don't routinely take on 2,3,4,5 bish in a fight. Your only problem is fighting your way past 3-4 buddies to get a kill.
I suspect that if the situation were reversed there would be more than a little squeaking out of the Bishops.
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Originally posted by Urchin
Toad.. you don't worry to much about a 'game' because it isn't a problem for you. You HAVE numbers, you don't routinely take on 2,3,4,5 bish in a fight. Your only problem is fighting your way past 3-4 buddies to get a kill.
I suspect that if the situation were reversed there would be more than a little squeaking out of the Bishops.
DITTO
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Originally posted by Urchin
I've only been here a year or so, but I'll dispute that statement that 'it all goes in circles'. Except for a brief month long period when I first started, the Bish have enjoyed a numerical advantage for at least an unbroken string of 8 months. Now, as far as who is in the proverbial bucket, that tends to alternate between Rooks and Knights, as far as I can see.
You are mistaken, Urchin. The AKs haven't been (permanently) Bishop that long and one of the deciding factors in choosing Bishop was because they were consistently outnumbered. There were other reasons, of course. There's always toilet paper in the outhouses that haven't been porked. :)
curly
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I could careless about numbers or reset. Bish get the most of the resets. Thats not a whine but fact. I can understand that when ever someone logs on they have 3 gangbanged bases to choose from he may lose interest in ah.
But its easy to say:
Win a reset? Lose a reset?
When the majority of the time your side has the advantage. But to the guys who fly an hour a day to get some a2a in and find the fuel at the last 3 bases he has is porked or some mission general has put up a series of gang rapes in the gang planner I can see where it would suck. Perks point mean nothing in this context. I will say its easier to earn more perks defending then just from the reset.
I know a lot of knights moved to rooks this tour helped the inbalance but that just shifts the inbalance between the the knights and rooks. Also i know a few knights whos connections to the main this tour have been pure crap so they arent flying much.
The small fronts on most of the current maps make the number inbalance even worse by concentrating the fights at 3 or 4 fields. Theres no practical way for ht to enforce any "balance". Its left up to the sheeple to do that themselves. When i log on i dont ever checked the numbers. But as soon as ya get a look at the map is easy to see whats up.
Quantity has a quality of its own.
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Originally posted by SKurj
LIAR!! +)
OK, well, except the times I switched to other countries so I could kill Bishops and FDBs for a while :D
As for the rest of you whining ninnies,
Sincerely,
SOB
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Originally posted by Wotan
[deletia]
The small fronts on most of the current maps make the number inbalance even worse by concentrating the fights at 3 or 4 fields. Theres no practical way for ht to enforce any "balance". Its left up to the sheeple to do that themselves. When i log on i dont ever checked the numbers. But as soon as ya get a look at the map is easy to see whats up.
Perhaps the new maps will solve some problems, Wotan. Concerning the sheeple, well, it's their $14.95 too.
Most of time from 8:00 p.m. CST to 10:00 p.m. or later, the Bish are outnumbered and fighting both sides with minimal conflict between the Rooks/Knits.
Don't recall hearing any of the Bish regulars whine like this ... truth is, I kinda like both sides attacking us ... more targets.
curly
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Curly when was the last time you remember your country losing fields every 10 minutes. When your country used its every single player defending multiple fields and barely managing to hold them..
And then you see your enemy whip up 20 extra men somewhere and launch a mission to an empty field which has nobody defending nor can it be defended without losing the other fields?
When was the last time you took up from a field knowing 100% sure that you will get attacked by 2-3 enemies at a time without hope of getting backup from your teammates since theyre in the exact same situation?
Most of us play to win regardless of strategies, and when for one reason or another your chances of winning go down for a long time, it turns into frustration and frustration turns to boredom and logging off the game.
I think the problem is that either bish players don't realise that it's not fun for their enemy to be facing double numbers constantly - or they know but they don't care.
This is why I have tried to preach about the importance of somekind of game balance.. It's ok if one country has temporarily numbers at times, but it's dead wrong to have numbers all the time for the other players.
My opinnion is and has been that collectively we all get more fun out of the game if we all have equal chances of walking out of a fight regarding to numbers. I know, though, that I'll have a double amount of bishops attacking me now who disagree me totally. Just like in the arena.
Oh.. :cool: :D :p ;) :) <--- WotW preventive smileys. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by AKcurly
Most of time from 8:00 p.m. CST to 10:00 p.m. or later, the Bish are outnumbered and fighting both sides with minimal conflict between the Rooks/Knits.
Whoomp. There it is. That's when I usually fly and that's what I usually see. Last night was the first time in a while that, while I've been on, we had "numbers".
Any blanket statement that the Bish "always have the numbers" just shows that situations vary a lot in the MA depending on your usual login time. Perceptions obviously vary.
Remember a few weeks back? There were posts in here about the Bish holding out the longest time ever in the SE corner of ND Isles. Ganged on two fronts, we fought on for DAYS. Whine, whine, sniff, sniff. Our lives were ruined. Divorce rates in Bishland skyrocketed.
How about Mindinao this week? Had the Southern part of the island, fought defensive for what, two or three days? Boo hoo, boo hoo.
No tearful texts on the BBS though in either case, were there?
The Bish get routinely ganged just like everyone else.
I really wish HTC would post the reset numbers; then there's be a little fact in this discussion rather than mere speculation.
It goes in cycles. Every country gets ganged.
Originally posted by AKcurly
Don't recall hearing any of the Bish regulars whine like this ... truth is, I kinda like both sides attacking us ... more targets.
curly
Agree with both statements here.
As I sort of hinted at before, the first one might be one of the reasons so many people like to be Bish. The country is pretty relaxed and the BBS isn't full of reports of mass suicides amongst our players whenever we lose a reset. Our country channel doesn't totally break down into "woe is us" either.
But then we're all just a bunch of clueless Bish quakers with no idea how to really play this game. We have no honor, we have no pride. We can't even spell "strateggiiee" and we think "organization" is when somebody has a sex change or something. I've seen Bish actually take a head-on shot, I've seen Bish shoot chutes. All of us ONLY fly Spits and Niks and when we buff, we buff from 47K using the "unlimited ord" option from HTC ($3.95/month extra, available only to registered Bish). We never engage unless we have 10 V 1 and alt on you. Oh, yeah, we'll steal your beer and your girl when you're busily engaged, too.
Some day we all hope to be noble and pure like the Knights who only fly C202's or the Rooks who always formally salute an opponent who yells out "bingo fuel" and then let him return home. Guess we just haven't reached that level of evolution yet.
But right now we're just enjoying ourselves like a bunch of clueless dweebs.
Do you guys ever wonder why people DON'T join Rookland or Knightland?
:D
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Curly when was the last time you remember your country losing fields every 10 minutes. When your country used its every single player defending multiple fields and barely managing to hold them..
And then you see your enemy whip up 20 extra men somewhere and launch a mission to an empty field which has nobody defending nor can it be defended without losing the other fields?
When was the last time you took up from a field knowing 100% sure that you will get attacked by 2-3 enemies at a time without hope of getting backup from your teammates since theyre in the exact same situation?
Most of us play to win regardless of strategies, and when for one reason or another your chances of winning go down for a long time, it turns into frustration and frustration turns to boredom and logging off the game.
I think the problem is that either bish players don't realise that it's not fun for their enemy to be facing double numbers constantly - or they know but they don't care.
This is why I have tried to preach about the importance of somekind of game balance.. It's ok if one country has temporarily numbers at times, but it's dead wrong to have numbers all the time for the other players.
My opinnion is and has been that collectively we all get more fun out of the game if we all have equal chances of walking out of a fight regarding to numbers. I know, though, that I'll have a double amount of bishops attacking me now who disagree me totally. Just like in the arena.
Oh.. :cool: :D :p ;) :) <--- WotW preventive smileys. :rolleyes:
Why do ya think they're permanently bishits now Rip?
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Curly when was the last time you remember your country losing fields every 10 minutes. When your country used its every single player defending multiple fields and barely managing to hold them..
Saturday morning flying the Mindanao map. Man we were getting thrashed
And then you see your enemy whip up 20 extra men somewhere and launch a mission to an empty field which has nobody defending nor can it be defended without losing the other fields?
Hblair's boys have done it. They are rook. I see the Rooks attack bases from time to time with more than 30 pilots and can you say "Ripsnort mission"?
When was the last time you took up from a field knowing 100% sure that you will get attacked by 2-3 enemies at a time without hope of getting backup from your teammates since theyre in the exact same situation?
I did that Saturday morning and again Monday night trying to defend a base.
I think the problem is that either bish players don't realise that it's not fun for their enemy to be facing double numbers constantly - or they know but they don't care.
I would bet most bish don't look at numbers and don't care. I login, look for the fight and get in there. What I find is that there is a place where a large scrap is going on and it is hard to get a shot amongst the many friendlies, or you go somplece else and get ganged by the enemy. I rarely find a happy medium.
This is why I have tried to preach about the importance of somekind of game balance.. It's ok if one country has temporarily numbers at times, but it's dead wrong to have numbers all the time for the other players.
Is there any way to track numbers for the entire day? I have ajob and cannot login evcery hour to check them. From what I see the numbers during the day are more even and actually leave Bish outnumbered.
My opinnion is and has been that collectively we all get more fun out of the game if we all have equal chances of walking out of a fight regarding to numbers. I know, though, that I'll have a double amount of bishops attacking me now who disagree me totally. Just like in the arena.
The best idea I have is to have HTC code the newbies to join the rooks, or knights when they first login. This is why I am Bish, because that is where the game started me and many of these Bish helped me out.
Oh.. :cool: :D :p ;) :) <--- WotW preventive smileys. :rolleyes:
Keep 'em
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skurj has 280 kills and has been killed 78 times against the Bishops.
The Bish need all the pilots they can get it seems.... :D
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I suppose it is cyclical to some extent. We recently went knights and for some reason end up fighting the bish a lot more. We never used to fight the worshipers of the dildo icon if we could help it... They were simply no fun to fight... very... "timid"..
Last night tho.... we fought the dildo worshipers at A1 and had a blast... Hours of great furs with lots of planes... Only one fluffer took out the fuel one time in an attempt to grab some attention for himself..
The new dildo worshipers are a lot more fun to fight than the old hands. I would say that it has a lot to do with the large amount of new players.
lazs
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How can guys fly for the outnumbering team?
How can guys fly Spits, La7s, N1K2s ...
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Dildo worshipers? What goes on in that mind of yours?
Guys....it's war...it's not fair and we get our turn at the hard times.
Some of you sound like socialists...let's keep it even and the same for everyone kinda thing. I would rather be outnumbered than have the game manipulated in that way.
When the big maps get here, life will change, you'll see:) Until then, try and show some moxy and stop whinin so much...it's so unbecoming:)
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Rude at the risk of sounding like a socialist, I consider people who knowingly choose the largest side on regular basis chicken and gutless. They're the same kind of folks who cheat in FPS games just to get their victory time after time with minimal risk of losing due to having some unfair advantage compared to the other players. What's your definition of cheaters Rude, capitalist?
To the earlier comments; bishops don't care to check the numbers when they join the arena - why should they. They're practically always having the advantage (last saturday excluded) so they can just log and join the party. (A reminder again I'm talking about euro timezone 12:00-24:00 GMT+2 and that only!)
It's so easy to give excuses on flying for the biggest side when you're there. But I reckommend (just for a change) to try out flying for the smallest side next time you log on. I think it might be even fun for you to face a challenge sometime.
After a day or two playing at disadvantage you may remember again how it is like and have a different approach.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
To the earlier comments; bishops don't care to check the numbers when they join the arena - why should they. They're practically always having the advantage (last saturday excluded) so they can just log and join the party. (A reminder again I'm talking about euro timezone 12:00-24:00 GMT+2 and that only!)
get in your time machine and go back 6 month ....
each country as bad period
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Originally posted by straffo
get in your time machine and go back 6 month ....
each country as bad period
That would be more like 7-8months back, as I believe was previously stated.
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Flying a Spit is easy. I go to the hangar, select Spitfire Mk Ia or Spitfire V. I then select a fuel based on how long I expect to fly around in that sort. I then go back to the tower and check for cons before clicking a spawn button. From there, it's like flying any other plane. Hit E to start the engines, throttle up and use rudder to keep her straight down the runway. Last I checked this is how you pick any plane to fly in Aces High. You can also use the .plane command, but I don't know which numbers correspond to which plane. ;)
Lots of Bish = Lots of Targets. I will admit lately that I've been using the Spitfire V more than the I now because of the numbers. Spit I just doesn't do as well when outnumbered. :(
If you don't want me to fly the Spitfire V, please email me, and we'll arrange for you to pay my subscription for the next month. Then I'll fly what you want me to. :) Until then, take your non-turning, but always running away rides and shove 'em straight up yer butt! :D
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Being a Rook I guess I can give my 2 cents on this one here. Yeah, it is kinda frustrating to log in and see that you only have 3 bases to up from, all with bad fuel. It's not, however, something I haven't seen the Bish have to deal with. They were getting assaulted hard on the Mind map. They did have a rough go for a while on the NDIsle map. To say that the Bish never get banged is wrong, I have seen and have participated in it.
Last night I logged on to see that the Bish had twice the numbers the Rooks did. It did bother me briefly until two things happened.
I was upset until I remembered how ticked I was when that huge influx of people came onto the Rook side not too long ago. There is nothing worse in this game than fighting 10 people for one lone spit flying low and slow. I'm competitive, I like a challenge, being ganged is not fun and I'm here to tell you that fighting fellow countrymen for a kill is not fun either.
I was also still a little angry until more of my squaddies showed up. Once they did and we started doing organized things, not necessarily base capture, it became a heck of a lot more fun.
So, I guess my whole point of putting in my 2 cents here is, I welcome being outnumbered....moreso than having numbers. I like the challenge. I just wish there would be better communication between countrymen I guess. I don't want to play General and I'm not advocating that. It is, however, more fun to fly organized than just flitting about from place to place.
And to my good friend xBat....where's the boobies?
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MrRipley, you miss the point.
The Bish DO play at a disadvantage. Perhaps just not at the time YOU are on, apparently.
For example, check the "Mindinao" thread that covered our valiant but dweeblike defense of the Southern end from about May 19 to the 22nd.
(Dweeblike because Bish HQ issued orders that under penalty of death all Bish must fly only Spits/Niks/LA7's at 35k+ and not attack unless numbers were 10 V 1 in our favor. This is gospel truth, of course. Bish Supreme Commander has account canceling privileges from HTC just in case anyone disobeys. It's true.. I swear it. It's just one more unfair advantage we have over you guys.)
The idea that Rooks or Knights alone are the only ones ever outnumbered and getting gangbanged is ludicrous. It happens to every country at some time during the playing day or playing week.
If any thinks it happens ONLY to them and/or ONLY during one particular time of day........ they're simply not looking at the true "big picture".
But, like a famous politician (bites thumb, looks directly into camera, generates tiny glistening tear from right eye) "I feel your pain."
:rolleyes:
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Rooks and Knights never ever fight. Everytime I log on the Rooks and Knights never ever fight each other. They just Gangbang us poor Bishops:(
EVERYTIME, EVERYTIME!
We now have a two country war! Rooknights pounding the poor under organized, under manned Bishops!
That's all they are a bunch of trucemasters,ya, nothing but trucemasters!!!
:D
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Originally posted by CavemanJ
That would be more like 7-8months back, as I believe was previously stated.
yep perhaps for you ...
I forgot to add : it depend also heavily of your time zone
Previously I've seen lot of complain of the HUGE number of bish online but it was for US TZ but in my TZ bishes were gangbanged
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hehe, last time I played it was a BishRook attack on us. At the same frickin' field. I think Wotan and some of his squaddies were there so he can corroborate the story. A44. Bish coming in hordes from the south, Rooks coming in hordes from the northeast. Was a blast! lots of targets to shoot at all around.
I just try to find the fun in a given situation. Totally outnumbered, the fun is usually how many can I get before they get me. (icing on the cake is being able to disengage bingo ammo and make it home alive). Even numbers, it's finding a good fight, or assisting in a base capture or defense. Having the numbers... JABO time usually. :) I seem to have more fun when outnumbered though. Besides it's always good to have 5 or more badguys around you when you die, then you can blame on that damned gang banging! ;) I tell ya, it's just not as fun to die in a good 1 v 1. You had a great fight, and ya give a . But when ya got banged, then you can totally taunt them on Ch 1 for "taking the entire Bish air force to shoot down lil' ol' me!" hehe
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>>one team outnumbering both other teams combined?
fact.. <<
Skurj:
If you are referring to last night (5/22) in the MA, it is really no surprise. When it becomes apparent to those logging that one side has an advantage over another and are close to a reset, they will go to the winning side to get the perk points. It is something which happens when we Rooks have got things going for us. All of a sudden I'm flying in a group of folks I recognize as nmez or, whom I have never seen before.
Last night was such a night, I logged on about 8:00 p.m. EST and Rooks were down to 4 fields, Bish had 154 pilits up and nits and Rooks had around 107 and 99 respectively. I log off to watch TV and log on again, Bish had over 200 Nits had 124 and Rooks had 107 and down to 4 fields. By the time I logged off, Bish had about 224 pilits or more.
The dweebs and point potatos smelled blood and swarmed to the winners camp; hehe they didnt know they would have to work for it though :)
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Per my other response in this thread I have to reiterate that it really irks me when people flock to Rooks when we have the upperhand. Didn't ask for your help and frankly, I'll be glad when you're gone.
Now, this is not the same view I hold towards squads that rotate. Sometimes I even (gulp?) miss the AK's, ok, not really ;) but I do welcome the squads who come for the tour.
So, it boils down to this:
Come for the tour = a welcome
Come for a reset = get lost
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I'll tell ya what, after reading some of the poop in this thread I wanna puke ;)
Hell, some of you dweebs can rationalize anything! :)
This thread itself oughta get an award for whine of the week not for its quality, but for sheer numbers of whines.
I fly Rook, from my lookout I see Rooks getting hammered nightly; no I don't care to hear your rebuttals, if you aint Rooks you simply don't know. We Rooks are accustomed to being outnumbered and fighting two sides; it makes for more targets.
The thing is, there are many who log on and fly for the winners and inflate that side's numbers, it happens to us (rarely, but it does).
Hehe, last night was funny, with the overwhelming numbers of Bish it took them well past my logoff time before they won the reset (if they did), on the easiest map in the AH inventory!:D All the while there were dweebs running their mouths over CH1 as if they are the greatest pilits in the game. LOL Hilarious! I guess some folks need that.
But guess what? There is nothing that can be done about the dweebs and point potatos who do this!
So, buck up guys and get over it. When it happens in your country, you will have to ignore the point potatos as we do in Rookland; they are nothing but an embarrassment. But it isnt necessarily that one side is being unfair for having all of these people join them, it's something that happens more and more for 25 perk points in 3 categories.
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Originally posted by straffo
get in your time machine and go back 6 month ....
each country as bad period
I haven't even been in the MA long enough to see the bish bad period.
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i could careless about numbers or a reset. I can just understand someone loosing interest.
Its funny listening to bish deny the obvious though.
Kights and Rooks well let umm eat cake I guess :rolleyes:
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I read this and I thot, I wonder how I've been doing, so I went and looked.
I have been killed once by a chute. :(
I'm going to guess that it was a bish chute, only because there is a higher percentage of those in the air at any given time.
Kanthy
Originally posted by robsan
skurj has 280 kills and has been killed 78 times against the Bishops.
The Bish need all the pilots they can get it seems.... :D
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This thread is aptly titled.
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Originally posted by Toad
...ludicrous...
Toad: Awarded 2 points for use of the word “ludicrous”.
Looooo-D’ehhhh-chris – kind of rolls of the tongue doesn’t it?
Not nearly as good as “gazebo” though. :D
Carry on.
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Yah, Iron... I'm going to E-Mail the entire thread to the editor of "Saddest Stories Ever Told" magazine.
;)
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around 7:30ish EST last night
135 bish, 61 rook, 71 knit
SKurj
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What I find funny is how dweebs and dickies switch sides to the winning country so they can cash in on the reset perk bonus and to gang-bang the loosing country.
:rolleyes:
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the SS, kewl to know i can do this...
SKurj
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Oh btw Mr Fork. that doesn't work +)
You have to fly for the winning team for 12hrs to earn the bonus
SKurj
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Really?
Well then it's obvious then they do it for the gang-bang riot atmosphere. I experienced it myself last week when we (bishops) were pumping the knights hard on NDILES.
We even managed to capture the whole Island HQ. Poor nitties.
:D
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
What I find funny is how dweebs and dickies switch sides to the winning country so they can cash in on the reset perk bonus and to gang-bang the loosing country.
:rolleyes:
Imagine their surprise when they got nothing :)
(You have be on a team for a long while before you become eligible for perk point bonus. Figure I hear quoted most often is 12 hours.)
Anyway..
Personally I am tired of the topic, it's not going to get fixed - well certainly not this way.
If you can't beat em join em. A lot more fun than knocking your head against a wall.
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If you can't beat em join em. A lot more fun than knocking your head against a wall.
A lot more fun for who? If all of us start to think that way MA will be all bishops flying around capturing empty fields. Nobody to defend them.. But that's exactly what they like.
Knit and rookland is slowly starting to lose players - not to bish but to competition or totally offline. I know I've played 30 or so hours this month and the hours drop by the day.
I guess I need a vacation or another game.
Let's see how I feel after a month spent in Greece.. All sun, beaches, naked women and no computers at hand.
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Both the Rooks and Knights have above a 1:1 K/D vs the bish.
I've yet to be on when the Rooks weren't attacking the bish and taking bases pretty regularly.
I seldomely encounter a group of rook pilots when they don't have the numbers advantage.
Look at the roster all you want. All that matters is the area you launch from and the area you fight in. Yet here we go again.
AKDejaVu
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Ohhhhhhhh Noooooooooooo!
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!
I just can't BELIEVE this! Oh, the HUMANITY!
Side-switchers! GANGbangers! DwEEEEEbs!
LOOKIT THOSE ROOK NUMBERS!
It's.. it's.. it's.. JUST NOT FAIR!
Besides, lots of folks in this thread say this NEVER happens! CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING!
I quit! I can't TAKE this! ALL of the BISH are QUITTING AH!!!!!!!!!
........Oh, wait. It's just a game.
Nevermind.
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ABout 2030 CDT 23 May:
It's THE END of the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!
:p
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I can't see 2:1 numbers anywhere on that bitmap, can you?
Edit: Compared to knight that is the situation. I was speaking to the bish population. No wonder knights were getting rolled last night in 3 or so hours.
Let's see how you feel after the situation is 200 rooks and 100 bishops for a few weeks or months.
Oh wait.. that's not possible.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
I haven't even been in the MA long enough to see the bish bad period.
Either fly 12 hour early or 12 hour later ...
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Straffo you've been missing a vital part of my posts; I talk about euro timezone and its players. I couldn't care less what happens on the MA when I'm at sleep.
I hear rooks kicked some butt yesterday also.. Too bad I can only read about that in our communication mail list. Got to sleep sometime too you know :)
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I've only been here a year or so, but I'll dispute that statement that 'it all goes in circles'. Except for a brief month long period when I first started, the Bish have enjoyed a numerical advantage for at least an unbroken string of 8 months. Now, as far as who is in the proverbial bucket, that tends to alternate between Rooks and Knights, as far as I can see.
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I agree. All the 'shifting' around seems to be happening at the Knit-Rook borders only.
It's very interesting to see how all those folks who emphasize on phrases like "don't care about numbers" "have fun where you are" "we don't check roster numbers" and etc etc.. are typically in the Bishops.
Having fun is real easy when the side you are playing for enjoys a large advantage for days, weeks, and months and months.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Straffo you've been missing a vital part of my posts; I talk about euro timezone and its players. I couldn't care less what happens on the MA when I'm at sleep.
I hear rooks kicked some butt yesterday also.. Too bad I can only read about that in our communication mail list. Got to sleep sometime too you know :)
I used to fly on Euro TZ (CET) but since my newborn has invaded (*) my office I've been out of AH since about one month and half.
So I don't now how is the MA actually I just know that my squad as switched to rook to help the number.
Anyway I've been in AH since tour 3 visiting all 3 country (I've been mostly bish about 90% of the time) I recall seeing bishes being in the bucket for 2/3 month (**) then being over strong for the very same period ....
Like forrest gump said "shit happen' "
Concerning sleep I've seen bishes grabbing more than 10 fields in a row and after login the next day I've seen all the 10 fields lost ...
So don't take care of number ... "shut up and fly" ;) and try to HAVE fun !
(*) the little thibault won't sleep all night long currently... bummer ... :(
(**) there is nothing like being vulched by a "fellow" bish who switched side ...
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Originally posted by Kweassa
I agree. All the 'shifting' around seems to be happening at the Knit-Rook borders only.
It's very interesting to see how all those folks who emphasize on phrases like "don't care about numbers" "have fun where you are" "we don't check roster numbers" and etc etc.. are typically in the Bishops.
Having fun is real easy when the side you are playing for enjoys a large advantage for days, weeks, and months and months.
hu ?
I'm not used to see bishes having the number in fact for my TZ I choose to be Bishop because of the low number of bishcuit ....
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You seem to be online at the moment straffo.
The situation in the main arena at this moment is this..
No advantage? Or am I hallucinating?
I can post numbers like this at any given moment when I'm online with 95% certainty. I'd like eurozone bishops post what they see (and no, I'm not talking about one saturday one month ago.)
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
You seem to be online at the moment straffo.
The situation in the main arena at this moment is this..
No advantage? Or am I hallucinating?
sure I'm online ... I'm wasting time waiting for a meeting to start at work :)
I don't negate the current situation I just want to point that next tour with some squad traditional rotation things would perhaps change.
The MA change all day minutes by minutes ... IMO one of the worst thing to do would be number balancing ... war is not fair :)
Btw looking at crude number don't give any information of the repartion of the player
imagine there is some king of bishrook alliance against knit the number are : BR 89 vs K 39
now for a BK 94 vs R 34
or a RK 73 vs B 55 ...
Without a country having more than the sum of the 2 others I won't speak of gangbanging as I don't know the repartition.
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Thats an interesting example there Toad. However... if you'll notice who has the fewest number of players and the fewest fields in your 'screenshot'.. it isn't the Bishops.
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Most of the time there are no alliances though and countries fight equally at all fronts. Only when a side is extremely low in numbers it often happens that both sides push for reset and attack only the poor gangbanged side.
That is when MA starts to suck for real for the smallest one. Probably that's the reason also why many people log when they see this coming.
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Got another little example. Taken today (5-24) at 2:00 pm.
This is more typical of what I think everyone in this thread is talking about.
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Hehe..the only numbers I worry about is the bandit in my gunsight and the bandit closest on my six.
Sooo, at any given time, the largest numerical value I think about is....2!
Cobra
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Let me ask this... why is there such a strong rivalry between the three countries? Who has the strongest rivalry? Is more 'squad' based than country based?
What squad has the strongest rivalry?
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I like how Toad posts the screenshot for the numbers that occurred in a planned joint operation by several large Rook squads. [sarcasm]That's highly representative of every Thursday around 0000-0200 GMT... :p [/sarcasm]
I wish I had taken a screenshot when I got on about 2200 gmt. Was about 120b-70k-60r. I didn't really pay too much attention because like I said before, more Bish and Rooks = more targets for Knights.
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I don't think its a rivalry at all...
Its Taking The Path Of Least Resistance...
one of the small teams gets hit by either opponent, the other opponent finds itself with an easily attackable front so they do it...
The initial team gettin hit just gets hit harder
SKurj
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You guys do have one justifiable gripe. Talked to the folks at HTC today and Bishland is the default country for new accounts. That is, they get dumped into Bishland automatically.
I think that should change and it should rotate or as a minimum be random.
That way you guys get the opportunity for new blood and you can do some of the work answering all the questions. ;)
As far as the rest of the "saddest story ever told", what happened to "Bish ALWAYS have the numbers"?
You guys will now admit that that was simply an incorrect generalization?
We FEEL your pain. ;)
I'll post a screenie later of the map that I took seconds after I took the numbers post. Kinda busy right now.
We wuz Gang-banged! It JUST WASN'T FAIR!
The took our RADAR down man! OUR DAR!!!! We were fighting in the DARK!
BOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhohohhoooooooo oooooooooHOOO!
OH the PAIN, THE PAIN! We were at a DISADVANTAGE!! AHHHH! ARRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!
...and SKurj.. the ribbing was all in good fun. Hope you didn't take it as mean or personal.
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i don't like not having any dar it makes for a lot of wasted time.
lazs
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To HTC: Please switch the default country for newbies to whatever country Mr Ripley is on so he'll STFU already and quit with his crying. Thank you.
SOB
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SOB at least you live up to your nick. Admirable.
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Ooops...I forgot to add chutes to my cipherin'.
Soooo....at any given time the highest numerical value that I worry about is represented by this equation:
Bandit in gunsight = 1 + Bandit closest to my bellybutton = 1 + any chute I can get to = variable.
Thank you and Goodnight
Cobra
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not at all Toad +)
SKurj