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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wotan on May 23, 2002, 03:46:58 PM
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check news
ugly blue and slow but looks great :)
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It took you 6 minutes Wotan. ;) you're slipping!
hehe, this is one we've been waiting to see since Val was shown! She looks purty! ;) Bring on Midway!!!
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looks nice !
but dangerous ? to what ? ;)
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I can't believe it's not the Grace :mad: :mad: :mad:
Just kidding. That's so very very cool. WTG HTC, and WTG to all those who picked SBD/Val in the online poll :)
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Ships. ;)
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hangars, ack, fuel, ammo, barracks too! ;)
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WE GOT IT! :)
WTG Good job SUPERFLY!
Turn back to the Early Pacific War! ;)
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WOW!
That has to be the best modelled aircraft yet in AH. Look at the cowl, the weather effects ... all of it!
Fantastic!
Westy
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Very, very nice! Good job Superfly..... (Now is does have 'stop the world' Divebrakes, correct?)
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P-38F?
*sniff*
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Any Ki?
*sniff*
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WTG! Nice job, and I for one think she's a beaut! Definitely got us a some first class early Pac CT set ups coming.
Sabre
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detail on that model is awesome, you guys are getting better and better... can only dream of what the AH stuka will look like.
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great work ! ;)
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very nice SUPERFLY ... i'm wundering how you bild those planes. in CFS i used Aircraft Factory ( at this time ) to make 3D models.
whatever ... thanks and keep on with those nice visuals
airmess
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I don't know my markings, but does anyone know what service SBD that is, when and where it flew? Or who flew it?
Didn't USN have a darker top blue color, so maybe this is USMC.
I'm really glad to see some early-war Pacific.
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awww yeahhhhh
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/superfly/sbd5-1.jpg)
friggin, look at them textures..... :D
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Sure is purdy
Tronsky
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Superfly sure is getting the hang of that 3-d modelling thingy, isn't he?
:D
It's a beauty!
[Edit: oh yeah, I gotta know... are the flaps/dive brakes perforated? I love that look.]
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Oooo I cant wait!!!!!!!!
Whats the armament on it?... I was hoping it was a biplane when I read the title "Slow but deadly" lol but this looks like its gonna be neat too :)
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WOW:eek:
VERY NICE!!!!!
NUTTZ
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very nice, you can sure tell you guys have learned alot in the past 3 years :)
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Damn nice job! Looks sweet!
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looks good!! but surely that canopy should be open! +)
SKurj
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i just imagine. :)
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front cowling looks wrong on that sbd.
also the engine shouldnt be so visible... more recessed
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I posted about the difference in "look" between some of the new planes as compared with that of the "new Zero". I asked if it was just a repaint of the existing Zero.
See if you can notice any "difference".
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front cowling looks wrong on that sbd.
also the engine shouldnt be so visible... more recessed
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Bah! You're just mad you can't have it now to start your 50 kill sortie in it :p
Lonz
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WTG! Looks great!
What are the antennae (spl?) on either wing for?
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Wow! the SBD looks beautiful!
Good job.
pardon my ignorance...does anyone know when is AH 1.10 to be released?
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It is so nice to have my old Warbirds ride to take the to the skies in! Thank you SuperFly! Great looking art!
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Damn fine paint job there, SF.
pardon my ignorance...does anyone know when is AH 1.10 to be released?
I'm putting my money on June 4th, 5th or 6th;)
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memorial day I hope ;)
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That SBD sure looks nice.
Now, a Ki-43-IIb or a Ki-44-IIb and we're set for a 1942 Pac Theate environment.
(OK, so some other things would be nice too, say P-38F or G, G4M2 "Betty" and a B-25B)
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Originally posted by Baine
WTG! Looks great!
What are the antennae (spl?) on either wing for?
Yagi radar. The screen is located in the forward part of the observer's cockpit. Used for anti-submarine detection, amongst other things.
Very nice job. I agree that the engine is probably a little far forward, but it's no biggie. Just finished making two of the Accurate Miniatures kits of this--an SBD 3 from Midway, and an SBD 5 in RNZAF colours--it's one of my favorite planes and I'm delighted to see it included. I cannot believe the amount of new stuff HTC have been working on. Which brings me to my point. Is there any possibility in the future that when we get new planes introduced, we can get a couple in the livery of other nations? Canada, etc. I could have seen that P-40 as Australian, for example. Perhaps when we get the Beaufighter it could be in fleet air arm markings. Pull the TBM-3 and re-do it as an RNZAF plane. . . Just an idea!
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WOOO HOOOO.... dats a PURDY bird!!
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The "new" Zero has the A6M2 cowling. It is shorter, bulges more and lacks the exhaust stubs (which are 3D on the AH A6M5b).
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whats its loadout?
will it be included in the 4 buff box set?
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Originally posted by Baine
WTG! Looks great!
What are the antennae (spl?) on either wing for?
Air to Surface Vessel (ASV) Radar
glad to oblige... now we have to wonder if it'll be implemented in game...
the paint job is kinda unfinished IMHO, tho'
:)
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Yeah looks real sweet. Looking forward to this one.
However, the paint scheme has me wondering. Ive never seen that particular contrast. What squadron would she come from?
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Originally posted by faminz
whats its loadout?
will it be included in the 4 buff box set?
I doubt any divebombers will be included in 4 buff set.
Only level bombers will be
SKurj
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Well they are LEVEL when they drop thier TORPS !
Jordi
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What is the difference between the Dauntless and the TBM??
Both are blue, big, slow and have gunners.:cool:
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Are they gonna model the "ASV" Radar on it?? would be cool to be able to track ships, and would make the game a little more stratigic :)
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tofri,
The TBM is a mid-late war torpedo and level bomber.
The SBD is an early war dive bomber / scout.
SBD-5 Dauntless
Type: two seat carrier-based scout-bomber and dive-bomber
Powerplant: one 1,200hp Wright R-1820-60 Cyclone
Performance: maximum speed of 252mph at 10,000ft; initial climb of 1,700ft per minute; service ceiling of 26,100ft;range of 1,115 miles on a bombing mission or 1,565 miles on a scouting mission
Weights: empty 6,533lbs; maximum take off 10,700lbs
Dimensions: span 41ft 6½in; length 33ft 1¼in; height 13ft 7in; wing area 325sq.ft
Armament: two 12.7mm fixed machine-guns in the nose and two 7.62mm trainable machine-guns in the rear crewman's position, plus up to 1,600lbs of bombs under the fuselage and 650lbs of bombs under the wings
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Great job Superfly.
I have a question though...what squadron is the aircraft you modeled from? Having researched / built one of the AM SBD 1/48 kits (which build up into gems, BTW), the tri color scheme you used seems a bit atypical from what I've seen. This is not a flame...I'm honestly curious that there may be a better source for SBD info out there (still have a couple of kits left to build).
Most SBD-5's that I've seen pictures of show the sea blue (the darker blue) continuing from the top of the upper wings onto to fuselage sides, in effect breaking the intermediate blue (the lighter shade) into a forward section (side of engine cowling to wing leading edge) and an aft section (fuselage side from wing trailing edge aft to tail). Your SBD has the intermediate blue running in a stripe down the entire side of the fuselage.
Again, not saying yours is wrong, only that I've never seen it. I freely admit my SBD references are thin, so it's very possible your scheme is historically accurate.
-Smut
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Fat lot of good Vals and Daunties would do against ships in current conditions.
Look how the TBM fares against CV task groups in torpedo runs, and the Avenger was expected to be one of the most distinguished anti-shipping aircraft when it was announced to be included in AH, too. :( If an Avie, renowned for its ruggedness, is like a moth into a virtual webbing of ack, I doubt Vals and Daunties would do much.
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On the other hand, I have a glimmer of hope with me :) The particular [interruption gear concept + AA fire effected a lot according to the position of each guns] scheduled for buffs in 1.10 may be a universal thing, not just for buffs :D
In that case, fighting CVs with Vals, Daunties and Avies is gonna be a LOT of fun :D Oh yeah, sure, park your ships right next to field in Ndisles! You in for a lot of trouble! :)
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Good eyes Karnak. :) Same for Cit on noting the engine being exposed too much. I love the whole work and the cowling just looks rounder than all proviuos radial jobs. Now that I keep looking at it the engine does look too prominate. Still, it's a fantastic model!
Westy
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The TBM is a mid-late war torpedo and level bomber.
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If memory serves me correctly I believe six TBMs (or TBFs) were used during the Battle of Midway. Only one surviving and none responsible for the destruction of the enemy.
That would put them in service in early June of 1942. Is this what you would consider "mid-late" ?
Perhaps the TBM/F moniker is what would make the distinction but Im not entirely sure what the difference is, please advise.
And Yes, the SBD paint scheme is new to me as well. Still, love that old workhouse. Many a dive bomber pilot wanted his old SBD back upon assignment to the SB2C.
Looks very nice.
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There is a pic of the paint scheme on this page. (http://www.kotfsc.com/aircraft/sbd.htm)
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Ah. The tri-color scheme got lost somewhat due to the angle the SBD was in the screen shot. Thanks Superfly.
Westy
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Your best work YET Superfly!
(S)
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MuadDib,
You are correct that some TBM's were used at Midway.
The main US torpedo bombers at Midway were not TBM Avengers, they were TBD Devastators. The TBD is an entiely different beast and completely outclassed by the SBD and its own replacement, the TBM.
TBD Devastator:
(http://www.multied.com/aviation/photos/TBD1Devastator.gif)
The TBM was just entering service when Midway happened, and it served through the rest of the war and into 1952. So yes, that is what I menat by mid-late war.
The early war stuff was in service before the US was directly involved in hostilities, things like the SBD, TBD, F4F, P-40E, B-17D.
On another note, its kind of too bad that we're getting the D3A1 istead of the D3A2. While the bombload of both versions is fully outclassed by the SBD's bombload, the D3A2 at least has a performance edge on the SBD. The D3A1 has the same top speed (241mph), is vastly more fragile, has a smaller bombload (250kg + 30kg under each wing) and weaker guns. The D3A2 was produced in greater numbers than was the D3A1, had a slightly greater payload (250kg + 60kg under each wing) and was significantly faster (281mph).
With the D3A1 the Japanese will be working from a even greater disadvantage than the would with the D3A2. The SBD-5 is vastly superior in all ways save turning radius.
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I WANT THE A-20 :) i'll use it for my diver and the daunghtless will be a backup one
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Anti-ship radar? Any chance of subs to use it on?
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Originally posted by Karnak
The D3A1 has the same top speed (241mph),
Hey that means the Gloster Gladiator would out run it by 11MPH and the CR42 would out run it by 40 MPH! :D
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY
There is a pic of the paint scheme on this page. (http://www.kotfsc.com/aircraft/sbd.htm)
Thank you sir! That page looks very interesting!
-Smut