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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Midnight on February 08, 2001, 10:03:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Westy:
Cod that was fun tonight.

I have to wait a week for it again?    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

 -Westy


Even though you might not like to fly missions, even though you say we are "hiding" from each outher, even though you just want to "furball" all night, No one in Rookland can say that it wasn't fun.

Tell me you didn't get an adrenaline rush seeing 3 full bars of enemy going for your HQ. Tell me your heart wasn't pounding when you flew up into a group of 15 B-17Gs and 14 Lancaster IIIs, all escorted by dozens of P-47Ds and P-51Ds.

Not a "Historical" mission, but the fun factor was 10x a standard, "furball over the same field all night" event was it not?

This is just the begining. Bishlandia will be victorious. Next time, you Rooks and Knights will not receive open warnings in the public forum. We just wanted to stir the pot some......

EDIT: BTW. This is not directed at Westy individually. That quote was ust the 1st one I came across from those that said they don't like organized "missions"

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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Regurge on February 08, 2001, 10:30:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Midnight:

Tell me you didn't get an adrenaline rush seeing 3 full bars of enemy going for your HQ. Tell me your heart wasn't pounding when you flew up into a group of 15 B-17Gs and 14 Lancaster IIIs, all escorted by dozens of P-47Ds and P-51Ds.

Oh man was my heart pounding  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Seeing a mass of b17s materialize, making passes at 500mph with a p51 on my 6 at 1.2k and closing, knowing the fate of all rook territory was on the line, gave a rush I havent felt in a very long time.

Great job bishops, keep em coming  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Hangtime on February 08, 2001, 10:44:00 PM
I mourn for my underescorted air crews.. they tried; damn did they try..

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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Gadfly on February 08, 2001, 10:50:00 PM
Sounds sweet, Salute!
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: milnko on February 09, 2001, 12:15:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
I mourn for my underescorted air crews.. they tried; damn did they try

Nothing to mourn Hangtime,
You shoulda heard the RW channel we were on light up with "OH MY GOD! Look at that Power Bar!"

The ASSASSINS and many others had sortied on a mission into your undefended backfield, when someone noticed your strike inbound, many of us augered in to grab interceptors.

I've got a couple screenshots of the map and at one point Bishes had 92 people online most of which were headed to Rook HQ.  Just look at these screens and tell me if ya can imagine our pucker factor at seeing ya's comin'

I had to climb up to meet your strike and somehow got seperated from my squad. Picking up a fellow rook we winged in on a low formation attacking a factory and I got lucky enough to be in the right spot at the right time to bag 2 Jugs, and a 'stang, was really alotta fun.

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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: DB603 on February 09, 2001, 12:41:00 AM
S!

 Yesterday night was a real adrenalizer for me!Zigrat organized a scramble mission and we took off to counter the massive Bish attack.It felt like ages when climbing to altitude with heavy 109G-10's.
 I got into a fight with an escort fighter at 23kft and the fight was victorious for me.I salute the opponent!
 Missions like thos,either defencive or offensive,are the salt of this game.Endless furballing and chaotic field capture is nothing compared to this what we experienced last night.I wish to extend my thanx to Hangtime & the rest of ppl organizing this raid!You made tha day!

DB603
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Kieren on February 09, 2001, 06:13:00 AM
Glad you had a good time.
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Westy on February 09, 2001, 08:25:00 AM
 Ok. Goes to show that people can indeed read but they don't listen. I have never said I don't like missions. What I have always said is I like to do what I would like when I am on line and not be told  what I should be doing because it's my limited time to do with as I see fit. Many nights I log on to furball, quite often I also partake in missions or in attempts to defend/capture a field.

 My posts the past few weeks have only been in defense of CHOICE which many of the AH "airmarshalls/airforce generals" would take away by trying to get a seperate furball arena or continued beratment/trash talk on the country channel aimed at those deemed not toeing the line.
  I just hate when people tell me that I am playing wrong, let alone that I'm not playing where or in the manner they feel I should be.

 When the missions first came out no one was more vocal than I about thier use. I praised Zigrat for blazing the trail.

  I am fighting against repression. I am PRO choice.

   -Westy

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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Ripsnort on February 09, 2001, 08:54:00 AM
All the knits could muster up last night was keeping the Rooks blind about 4 hours to help out Bish (something we were rewarded with by our southern  sector getting hammared by Bish) and then hitting Bish HQ as well...couldn't get many interested in OPS last night...just one of those nights!
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Moose11 on February 09, 2001, 10:01:00 AM
And *how* did you manage to keep hitting our HQ rip?

Knits like to do it to the rooks from behind, that much is evident...

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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Ripsnort on February 09, 2001, 10:10:00 AM
Hehe Moose!  Knits use brains, Rooks use brawn.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: popeye on February 09, 2001, 10:17:00 AM
Organized mission?  Might have been a mission, but....when the escort abandoned their bombers, to go for the easy kills as we climbed up to meet them, they were playing "our" way.    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

I guess you can take the Bish out of the furball, but you can't take the furball out of the Bish.    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Nash on February 09, 2001, 10:22:00 AM
Hehe Rip - this is the 2nd time you've mentioned that.

To put things into perspective, we couldn't expect, nor were we seeking, Knit charity in our attack on the Rooks. We attacked the south (Knits) first because it would have been rediculous to start our move north while an enemy country was camped out on 2 bases on the very island that had our city (one of them being our port).

We aren't looking to make pacts with other countries for these ops. If you got miffed that we didn't appreciate your hitting the Rook HQ, and decided to take revenge on us by taking back the our city/port island along with a raid on our HQ - that's fine. But it *still* would have been stupid of us to move north and expect that the Knits wouldn't be constantly porkin' our city.
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Jimdandy on February 09, 2001, 10:37:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Westy:

...I just hate when people tell me that I am playing wrong, let alone that I'm not playing where or in the manner they feel I should be...

...I am fighting against repression. I am PRO choice.

   -Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 02-09-2001).]

You go it Westy. No one was forced to play in any manner. The ones that chose to help defend did and those that didn't didn't. As much as I loved the defense of Rookland last night I think the MA is a pro choice arena. Don't get me wrong. I will participate in missions most of the time. But a lot of times I don't want to be bothered with it. I think a mission like that shows what the potential of the MA is. I do want to see you guys do it next week. It was fun. I hope our side does it some time. Next time though get your fighter cover more organized. It was a cluster up there on your side. Lots of chiefs and very few Indians on the fighter end. You guys SHOULD have made it in. It was a valiant effort <S>.


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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Ripsnort on February 09, 2001, 10:39:00 AM
Rgr, Nash, just ribbing...wouldn't expect a 'treaty' since they always go full circle, and it sucks when your at the wrong end of a treaty!

Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: lazs on February 09, 2001, 10:40:00 AM
Well... i mmusta missed it.   if i see huge red bars with no green tho I just let it happen.  I don't even know where our HQ is nor do I care.

I speak for myself but I don't care for a mission that involves clubbing something.   If the mission happens to draw a crowd... with a lot of action, then i will jump in.  this is quite different from actually being in on it from the start or being "forced".

Anytime fairly equal groups of guys clash it is fun.. If it was caused by a mission... fine... but a mission that doesn't involve a furball is no fun at all.  

It's the action stupid.
lazs
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Kieren on February 09, 2001, 10:41:00 AM
Westy-

That is exactly what my posts these last couple of weeks have been driving at. I thought about saying that, but decided people wouldn't appreciate it inserted in this thread.

I actually am glad there was a fun mission that so many people enjoyed. I couldn't participate in it as work kept me off until late (as it usually does), but that certainly doesn't mean I don't want that type of stuff to happen.

I wondered about the "you have been forced" comment and thought "nah, let it go...".   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Post by: -towd_ on February 09, 2001, 11:03:00 AM
one 17 one lank and a 51 hehe love um in crowds  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Midnight on February 10, 2001, 04:17:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Westy:
Ok. Goes to show that people can indeed read but they don't listen. I have never said I don't like missions. What I have always said is I like to do what I would like when I am on line and not be told  what I should be doing because it's my limited time to do with as I see fit.

Westy, I'm not trying to start an argument with you. I said my comment was not directed at you individually, your post was just he first I saw saying how fun things were. I guess I just don't understand your point of view.

When I orignally posted the other thread entitled "POLL: Why don't YOU join missions" it seemed from your responses that it was all a time issue, a planner reputation issue, or mission type issue as to why you don't join. No offense, but you really didn't indicate that you are a supporter of planned missions.

 
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Originally posted by Kieren:
I wondered about the "you have been forced" comment and thought "nah, let it go...".

Let what go? I know that no one was "Forced" to do anything, nor would I ever try to force anyone. Personally, I wished that NO ONE from Rook land would do anything and let us just roll right over everyone. I used it as a figure of speech to show basically, in the face of a huge organized strike, even the furballers realized they should get involved. For some, maybe it was a thought of, "If I don't help out, we could loose radar and a lot of bases," or for others it was simply, "I bet I can get a whole bunch of kills in that huge group of contacts." Either way, a lot of people were involved in that raid, one way or the other.

I am not trying to say anyone has to play a certain way. Play however you want, I don't care. I am just trying to point out that being involved in an organized mission (directly or indirectly) can be fun and put an extra dimension of immersion and excitement into the game.

Please don't make me out to be the bad guy in all of this. I am all for pro-choice and let people do what they want, etc. All I really wanted to do before was find out what needed to be done to help get people involved in missions.

The orginal intention of this post was inteneded as a rass   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

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Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Westy on February 10, 2001, 08:44:00 AM
"Please don't make me out to be the bad guy in all of this. "

You're definately not a bad guy Midnight  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
The subject header could have used a less potent word than 'forced' but your point came through.

I did no tmean to make it sound like I was answering you back individually. My reply was intended for the general audience that has followed and participated in this debate for the past few weeks too. You included the "not aimed at anyone in particular" in your post, I absent mindedly did not.

 -Westy
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Jimdandy on February 10, 2001, 09:40:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Westy:
"Please don't make me out to be the bad guy in all of this... "

 -Westy

Oh Westy the squad know what kind of jerk you really are.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) <S>

Gee Midnight I posted before Westy on how fun it was. No one ever reads my stuff. I feel like an out cast.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: Kieren on February 10, 2001, 09:45:00 AM
Yeah, I need to back off this line of discussion, too. No insult intended Midnight.

Title: You have been Forced to play "our" way... And you loved it!
Post by: lazs on February 11, 2001, 10:40:00 AM
well... look at the map.   Lots of planes in a small area with realtively even numbers.

That is the attraction.  Note that the screenshot isn't of everyone sitting in the tower or of one big red or green bar with a tiny little opposite.   It's the action stupid

Most (like myself) don't care how the action got there... They just go to the action.  When the action goes away or to somewhere else... so do they.  soon as that enemy fild has it's fighter hanger killed I look for another fight somewhere else. so.....

it ain't clubbing a field with vastly superior numbers

it ain't sitting in the tower

it aint climbing to 25k in formation

it aint escort or bombing

its the action stupid
lazs