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Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: DRILL on May 24, 2002, 06:42:49 AM
Tour of Duty - The Tour of Duty, (TOD) is a weekly historical event that takes place in the Special Events Arena (SEA) on Friday nights at 11 PM Eastern and Saturday afternoons at 3 PM Eastern. Each tour will last 3 or 4 weeks, (3 or 4 frames). Squads who are participating in the TOD will fly Axis or Allied for that Tour. At the end of the Tour most squads will switch sides. Each squad that signs up will supply a member of their squad who is willing to be a C.O. one frame of a Tour. Frame C.O.'s will be given a list of missions for their squads to fly and they are to contact the squads prior to the frame to inform them of their mission. Success of your squads mission during a frame will often have a direct affect on how successful other squads are in their particular mission. Let there be no doubt the success or failure of your squads mission can have a "domino" affect on your brothers in arms.



            So you say your sq is not in TOD as a sq and you would
               like to see what all the hub bub is all abought ?
         
            Well you can ..all you have to is check out any Sq
              in TOD' they all have 2 guest spots open for guys
              that want to give it a try . all you have to is contact
              them say you like to give it a try

            there are several sq iv noticed that only have 4 pilots
              or so that fly full time and all i beleave are looking for
             pilots give em all a look see you might want to join 1
             

              Will i have to leave the SQ im in you ask ??
                 no you do not .. you can still remain in your SQ
                 in the main areana and join a TOD  SQ.as not
                 all SQs require you to be same same so too speak
                  just for TOD

             If you have thoughts along thos lines come give it a try
                 see what good team efforts and sacrafices it takes
                 to get the job done.

            With the new 1.10 comeing out with all the new
               hardware i promise you these events will only
               get better and a hell of a lot fun .. thats why im here
               as lots of others .. think bought it and come join
               in the fun :D
Title: Re: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: bikekil on May 24, 2002, 07:50:05 AM
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Originally posted by DRILL
Tour of Duty - The Tour of Duty, (TOD) is a weekly historical event that takes place in the Special Events Arena (SEA) on Friday nights at 11 PM Eastern and Saturday afternoons at 3 PM Eastern.


It's changed from Saturday to Sunday actually. Still at 3pm Eastern (9pm Euro)

just click a banner on the top of your screen for more information (and events calendar)
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: Ghosth on May 24, 2002, 08:12:09 AM
He's right folks. TOD = the best flying AH has to offer IMO.
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: DRILL on May 24, 2002, 03:06:25 PM
your right sir thx for helping me on that point as i did forget bought that change
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: Turbot on May 24, 2002, 09:31:18 PM
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Originally posted by DRILL
your right sir thx for helping me on that point as i did forget bought that change


Darn shame no walk-ons alot more would join in...ala AW events.  AW had events down to a science.
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: DRILL on May 24, 2002, 09:33:31 PM
as long as you contact a sq befor hand you can get in
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: ghostdancer on May 24, 2002, 11:15:05 PM
Actually .. if you contact a squad via e-mail before the event and get the C.O. to confirm he has a slot for you .. you can fly. You just have to do it before the actually event.'

You just can't show up in the SEA and ask for a slot. You need to do it before the event and outside of the SEA the night the event is running.
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: cajun on May 24, 2002, 11:51:48 PM
Makes me wanna subscribe so bad!... In TOD I know you only have 1 life but I have a few other questions:

1#: Can you land, go to tower and select another aircraft and retake off? or is that considered "Crashing"

2#: Can you bail out or ditch and go to tower? it would make sense cuz in real life if you had to ditch or bail (and were not captured) you could get back to base and get a new aircraft.

3#: How do I become a "Guest" of a squad?

4#: If I die am I out of the game for the rest of the day, however long the TOD lasts or what?

I don't even have an account yet but I'm thinking about it...
but I'd pay more like 7-10$... 15 permonth seems quit allot, but the TOD&scenarios sound so fun I might actuelly create an account eventuelly!...
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: skernsk on May 25, 2002, 12:09:19 AM
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Originally posted by cajun
Makes me wanna subscribe so bad!... In TOD I know you only have 1 life but I have a few other questions:

1#: Can you land, go to tower and select another aircraft and retake off? or is that considered "Crashing"

No.  You can land and rearm as many times as you like, but the plane you start with is all you get.  1 life, 1 airframe.

2#: Can you bail out or ditch and go to tower? it would make sense cuz in real life if you had to ditch or bail (and were not captured) you could get back to base and get a new aircraft.

You could get a new aircraft but likely not the same day.  Once again think of it as a "one airframe" event  

3#: How do I become a "Guest" of a squad?

Contact the squad you want to fly with.  You can get the list of them through the events page.  You can also look in the TOD forum for squad advertising that they need players, or put a "I want to fly, who needs a guest" in there yourself.

4#: If I die am I out of the game for the rest of the day, however long the TOD lasts or what?

[/b]The TOD is three frames.  The frame itself lasts two hours.  If you die at the beginning then you wait until the following weeks frame.  You can also join as a gunner after you die.[/b]

I don't even have an account yet but I'm thinking about it...
but I'd pay more like 7-10$... 15 permonth seems quit allot, but the TOD&scenarios sound so fun I might actuelly create an account eventuelly!...

Wait until you are a subscriber before you join the event.  Also think of AH as 50 cents/day.  I bet you ahve that kind of change floating around in your pocket every day:)

Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: Flossy on May 25, 2002, 04:01:06 AM
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Originally posted by cajun
I don't even have an account yet but I'm thinking about it...
but I'd pay more like 7-10$... 15 permonth seems quit allot, but the TOD&scenarios sound so fun I might actuelly create an account eventuelly!...
Not so long ago, it was $30 a month, therefore it has halved in price!  Well worth $15 a month, I think, even without events like the TOD....  :D
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: daddog on May 25, 2002, 06:39:33 PM
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AW had events down to a science.

Good thing we have some former AW players who are now CM's to show us how. ;)
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: jordi on May 25, 2002, 11:33:22 PM
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Originally posted by Turbot


Darn shame no walk-ons alot more would join in...ala AW events.  AW had events down to a science.


TOD's are SQUAD Centered.

Regular SCENARIOS do accept WALKONS !

The good thing about AH is that we have MANY different styles of activities - TOD's ( both US and EURO Friendly ) , Open Scenarios, Wild Wednesdays and soon to be KOTH's - King Of The Hill.

More and more things to do outside the Main Arena.
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: cajun on May 26, 2002, 12:26:13 AM
I was wonderin why they made it where you have to be in a squad or a guest of one to join? you would get allot more players.  And I'd imagine there are hardly any people left after 2-4 hours?

And what exactly are the "Scenarios" and where do they take place? do you also have a limited amount of lives or what?
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: jordi on May 26, 2002, 12:45:03 AM
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Originally posted by cajun
I was wonderin why they made it where you have to be in a squad or a guest of one to join? you would get allot more players.  And I'd imagine there are hardly any people left after 2-4 hours?

And what exactly are the "Scenarios" and where do they take place? do you also have a limited amount of lives or what?


TOD's are not designed for MAXIMUM Capacity of an arena but geared toward MAXIMUM Attendence from the squads themselves.

Tour of Duty, (TOD) is a weekly historical event that takes place in the Special Events Arena (SEA) on Friday nights at 11 PM Eastern. Each tour will last 3 or 4 weeks, (3 or 4 frames). Squads who are participating in the TOD will fly Axis or Allied for that Tour. At the end of the Tour most squads will switch sides. Each squad that signs up will supply a member of their squad who is willing to be a C.O. one frame of a Tour. Frame C.O.'s will be given a list of missions for their squads to fly and they are to contact the squads prior to the frame to inform them of their mission. Success of your squads mission during a frame will often have a direct affect on how successful other squads are in their particular mission. Let there be no doubt the success or failure of your squads mission can have a "domino" affect on your brothers in arms.

Go here to read more about TOD's

http://events.simladder.com/tod.php

Scenarios are more like scenarios in AW. Registrations - CO's make all the plans - Grps of pilots form together to fly together. They can be 1 or 2 frames a day usually on SAT or Sundays. 200+ Pilots going against each other in epic battles.

Sceanrios take place in the Special Events Arena ( See my sig to sign up and get frequent updates on upcoming TOD's and Scenarios ).

Please keep the questions coming !
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: cajun on May 26, 2002, 01:00:05 AM
QOUTE: "Frame C.O.'s will be given a list of missions for their squads to fly and they are to contact the squads prior to the frame to inform them of their mission."

Who actuelly makes up the missions? The C.O. or they follow historical missions? and where do they get them from?

QOUTE2: "CO's make all the plans - Grps of pilots form together to fly together. "

Do you have to fly under a certain CO in scenarios? do you have to join a mission to play or some thing?
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: Wotan on May 26, 2002, 02:04:25 AM
cajun

tods are specifically for squads.

They are not designed as come one come all.

The way they work is the cms do the write up for the tour, (a tour is made up of multiple frames 3 mostly) The cm divide up the squads to best even up the numbers. One tour you may be axis the next allies. They switch theaters as well pac, med eto west front etc. The cm pic out of the squads cos fer each frame. They then send a list of objectives to the side cos. The side cos make up the plan an forward that to the squad cos who inform their members.

Squads can except 2 guests per tour. But you must request a guest slot prior to the start of the frame. You cant just show up to the SEA 5 min before the frame starts and ask to join. These are Squad events they revolve around the structure of the squads to make them work. Most squads take guests. Its up to those who are not in a squad and wish to fly tod to get to the tod page and contact the squad they wish to fly with. I doudt anyone will turn you away. But even if they theres always a squad looking for guests.

Since sat tod has moved to sunday maybe its time to start check 6s and snapshots back on saturday. But thats has nothing to do with TOD.
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: Turbot on May 26, 2002, 02:42:59 AM
So what events are on the books for new players?  (NO i have not looked at calendar)  BUt shouldn't there be something for us lowly undesirables too? :)

edit to add this...

Events weren't elitest in AW, new people were encouraged to participate (yes a MAJOR pain in the bellybutton - but also was good to grow the game).  In fact squad participating together was an OPTION that needed special arangement.  This is the WarBirds setup here, not the way it was in AW.

Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: Wotan on May 26, 2002, 04:06:25 AM
events in ah arent elitest either

Tod however (or something similar) was requested by some of the squads in ah. A lot of them were from folks from wb who enjoyed the s3s (Squad Select Series).

Every other event in ah is open to everyone.

Those of us who participate in tod like it the way it is. No one is excluded as long as they comply with the rules for tod.

You would have flown the last frame had you went to the TOD page and read the rules and found a squad that excepted guests. My squad has never turned away a guest.

TOD has always been a squad based event.
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: ghostdancer on May 26, 2002, 07:34:59 AM
For organizational and admin purposes TOD (Tour of Duties) are squad based. This is so that the C.O. of the squad can handel turning out his troops, disemnating information and orders, and other admin duties so that it does not fall on the CM or on just the CiC and a few others.

However, squad base does not mean that you have to had a corresponding squad in the MA (main arena) or that the people flying in your TOD squad have to be part of your squad in the MA. Your TOD squad can be made up of anyone and doesn't even have to be a squad in the MA.

But all TOD squads have to give a committment level to the CMs before an event starts (basically tell us how many pilots they think they can field consistently). And this where the problem of last minute walkons comes into play.

Right now TOD's are setup to run faster and leaner than full blown scenarios (which do have walkons). Plus, since squad sizes can run into the high 20s or more its hard for a CM to know if a squad is over or under its committment for a frame. Which is unlike a scenario where usually have a squad that is only allowed to field a set number no matter what. Couple this with the decentralized admin structure of the TOD and well you can see that last minute walkons can be a real pain for a single CM and could throw things out of whack in a balancing way.

Yes, I know I was in AW scenarios and they handled but the point is this is not a scenario but more of a scenario light or themed event. TODs don't have to be as historically accurate, and several other things that scenarios are. They also only have 1 setup CM and 1 admin CM unlike the large team that scenarios have.

All of this is why last minute walkons are not allowed.

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Now as for a last minute walkon is. A last minute walkon is a player who comes into the special events arena and asks if any squad needs a pilot. Basically just shows up and looks for a slot. This is not allowed under the current TOD rules.

However, if that person has sent e-mail to a squad about flying with them in the event and gotten a confirmation that they had a slot for him or her before the actual event is held (entering in the SEA arena when the CM is present) that person can fly.

My squad the Nightmares VMF-101 is made up primarily of the Nightmares VMF-101 in the MA but I also have people from the following squads who have contacted me about flying with us on friday .. AirMAgeddon, Horse Soldiers, Flying Tigers 130th, WildCards, NightHawks VA-85, Cactus Air Force, and a few independents.

Right now is the time to get in touch with the Friday night squads since we are between TODs and are revising our committment levels for the next friday night TODs (personally I have to up my committment level from 16-20 pilots per frame to 21-25 pilots).

So if you are still interested go to:

http://events.hitechcreations.com/

And mouse over "Weekly Events" and then click on Friday or Saturday (now run on sundays) Tour of Duty. Then scroll down the page and on the left you will see the squads with their contact e-mail links per squad. Pick a squad and contact them about flying with them.

Most squads would love to have you since they always have to work to turn out enough troops for each frame.
Title: Re: Re: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: Grayarea on May 26, 2002, 09:21:39 AM
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Originally posted by bike killa


It's changed from Saturday to Sunday actually. Still at 3pm Eastern (9pm Euro)

just click a banner on the top of your screen for more information (and events calendar)


That is 21:00 Central European Time, 20:00 British Summer Time.
Title: Tour Of Duty ( TOD ) AH
Post by: cajun on May 26, 2002, 11:34:13 PM
Thanks, but I seriously doubt that I'll be able to make the next frame or 2, since I'm not even registered for MA.

The reason I'm asking is to see what its all about, I'm thinking of signing up and wondering if it would be worth it, it sounds great, so bassically you fly with a squad, fly specific missions under the command of a CO like in real life?  The more I hear about it the more I wann signe up!...

 I know how about this I'll "work" for HTC :) , by playing their game for free and give them suggestions and stuff, Like adding multiple gunners, adding Gloster Gladiator, Stuka, and whatever else :D lol