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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Beefcake on May 24, 2002, 05:38:06 PM
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Even before 1.10 comes, HTC is already porking the buff formation thingy. Unless HTC is planning on changing the bomb damage to buildings, 3 buffs won't be able to destory an ack at field. HT use the force, don't give into the fighter dweebs. Porking the buffs leads to dweeby tactics, dweeby tatics leads to whining, whining leads to sweetying, sweetying leads to the dark side. There is much dweebyness I sense in you HT.
Truely though, HTC I really like the 4->3 Buff idea, keep up the good work. :)
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Truely though, HTC I really like the 4->3 Buff idea, keep up the good work.
Ahhhhh, ya ruined it Beefcake! I bet Rude could sense that whine coming before you even hit the submit button.
:)
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AWWWW DARNIT!!!! I wanted that WotW award too! Can I go back and edit it? :D
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I love to fly bombers and I think this is great what they are doing, it will be much more realistic, in reality bombers didnt just pick off the buildings or AA they got over their targets and released their bombs which weren't accurate but covered and destroyed a very large area, not "laser guided" type bombing.
And I cant wait untill both gunner and pilot will be able to man the guns, I'd really like to be able to take up like 10 gunners, imagine a fully gunned B-17 with a gunner in every position, would be much more effective and really fun!
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Uhmm,..Beefy,..the change is more accurate from a formation perspective according to how buffs flew formations in the war. I think HTC realized this on thier own and fixed it.
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I know Mr. Skuzzy. :) I don't think HT would forsake us buff pilots. Though I kinda hate to see us losing 1 buff, a 3 buff formation would be alot easier to command. I'm sure HT will get it right, and I'm sure all will be happy. :)
Well....cept laz
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Look at it this way,..that 4th buff potentially would have blocked the lead buff from 6 shots. Now it won't. :)
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cc skuzzy, now they will be able to killshoot the buff formation beihind them 3X as effectively. MWAHAHAHAHA. :D :D ;)
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Tac you do know killshooter is nullified between buffs don't you? I
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Originally posted by cajun
I love to fly bombers and I think this is great what they are doing, it will be much more realistic,
Hehehe it may be fun (not sure about that yet)
But realistic? Maybe as realistic as the collision model,
ya know, where only one guy dies most times?
Or realistic as the pilot gunning all the gun positions
on the buffs? Fun maybe, realistic? Oh yeah I remember reading about the guy that flew 3 buffs at one time now :rolleyes:
I do say I love this game but realistic it aint.
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X2Lee,
Collisions are as realistc as they can possibly be given the contraints of the internet.
The bomber changes will make the usage of bombers more realistic than what we have now.
Nothing in AH is truly realistic. AH is, first and foremost, a game.
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Originally posted by Karnak
X2Lee,
Collisions are as realistc as they can *possibly be* given the contraints of the internet.
Ya think? In most mid air collisions there are no survivors.
So I have to differ with ya. I never said it wasnt a game, I just keep hearin everyone say how realistic it is.:p
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"Porking the buffs leads to dweeby tactics, dweeby tatics leads to whining, whining leads to sweetying, sweetying leads to the dark side. There is much dweebyness I sense in you HT. "
HT IS a fighter dweeb
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x2lee,..my comment was very specific. The formations for most buff flights are made up of 3 buffs, not 4. Never said a word about pilots, guns or anything else,..just formations.
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If they make it more realistic then the drone herders should never again be able to sink a ship and hitting a FH will be sometimes thing. Wouldn't that be cool?
lazs
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"fh will be a sometimes thing" just like now after a buff flies over your base....
FH's and other stuff at bases will fall as often as they do now once the buffers learn the sights. Yeah they'll drop a little more ord, but the hangars will go down just as regularly as they do now.
u can count on it +)
SKurj
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skurj... One can onlyu hope. It boils down to this.. the less effect that the fluffs have on me taking off the better the game is. having them be unable to kill a cv is simply realistic.
lazs
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Laz even though I hate you with every fat, tired, little bone in my body :) , I must agree with you here. Now it is true the buffs like the B17 did bomb CVs (like in the battle of Midway) but they had 0% effect on them. I am a buff pilot, but I want buffing to be a skill, not easy mode. Jabo will now be the key to killing FHs, and it will also be the key to sinking ships. (well also torping) I will say this though, with this new buff thing I will now most likely pound enemy citys and factorys. Can you imagine a squad of 3 Lancs droping a large spread of 1kers on the Training factory?
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Originally posted by lazs2
skurj... One can onlyu hope. It boils down to this.. the less effect that the fluffs have on me taking off the better the game is. having them be unable to kill a cv is simply realistic.
lazs
Having you fly around for a couple of hours on patrol with no sight of an enemy would also be realistic. Have at it.
SOB
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We all want selective realism. I don't want my account to be canceled when I die for example. Likewise not many people want to fly around for hours without encountering the enemy.
However, I think most of us want reallistic weapons accuracy. It appears that the new buff modelling will include this improvement. Hopefully this will mean that it is almost impossible for strategic bombers to hit certain targets (such as ships) and extremely difficult for these bombers to take out tactical targets like airfields. Likewise I hope that buffs are the best weapons to use on enemy cities and factories.
Hooligan
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
x2lee,..my comment was very specific. The formations for most buff flights are made up of 3 buffs, not 4. Never said a word about pilots, guns or anything else,..just formations.
Never quoted you either skuzzy I was just addressing the folks who keep harping about how real its gonna be ;)
Didnt say ot wasnt fun didnt say it wasnt a game
You guys ever read the posts before you respond? :cool:
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what hooli said... I don't think we want the 202 to have 4 hispanos simply because no one is flying it much right now. We don't want an A6M2 to have self sealing tanks and boocoup armor.
lazs
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Originally posted by Beefcake
Unless HTC is planning on changing the bomb damage to buildings, 3 buffs won't be able to destory an ack at field.
Maybe you missed this from Pyro's news : We’re going to be looking at potential changes in blast damage from bombs and default hardness settings for objects as well.
As far as I'm concerned, de-acking is not B17s role, it's P47 materia :D
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Shaad Up Frog boy! :D
Frenchy, that duel we had between A48 and A24 was fun a hell. Though I never RTBed once I'm still glad I killed you in my Hurri I.....ok it wasn't a kill....more like Collision Kill. lol Anyway yes, it is not a Buffs job to Deack a field, it is a buffs job to fly and bomb Towns, Cities, and Factorys....and it is also the buffs job to turn Airfields into farmland.
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Hey Beef
!! Yeah it was fun, I was traped, your Hurri on my 12 and the FW in my 6. I really screewed that HO, I ramed you, what a bummer. I eard canons impact too, I guess you guys hit me at the same time. I was impressed by your first deflection shooting on my screw up merge, I eard like 10 pings :D
Even worse, later on I lost my HO Vs Silat in a P47-D30 after a couple of passes, geez, I will ear about this one of ages I'm sure :p
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I would never ever bring up my Tiffie killing your P47 .:D
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LOL Frenchy, last night, right after the bish won the war and with 2 mins left to the change of terrain, our little "horde" of planes that was otw 24 had killed all but you. I piped onto the Area ch and said.
Beefcake: WTG guys, only 1 47 left!
Silat: Yeah and I'm betting that 47 is frenchy! (few secs pass) MUST.........KILL.......FRENC HY!
Host: Victory 1 by Silat
(Cheers come over radio channel)
Silat I am still laughing at that. :)
We may have lost the war, but we won the battle. :D
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ROFL, you guys are too much.
On our side Sancho said :"Hang on French, only 1 minute to go" ... but I knew I was already doomed as my right wing tip was gone and I was abrely maintening an agonizing 20 degr left bank.
I should had not take this HO Vs the other P47 knowing that I can't hit a thing in HOs and I often loose ... but hey, it was fun :D
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Collision modelling in this game is perfect for net lag. What happens on your FE to your plane is what counts. Why on earth should someone be punished because you couldn't avoid them on your FE and they easily avoided you on their FE?
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Good point.