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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Joc on May 31, 2002, 10:52:37 AM
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Upgraded me old pc to a nice HP P4 2.2Ghz,256mb and GeForce 4Mx 440 64mb card,getting lovely fps in AH average about 74fps to 45-60 in cloud,BUT! for some damn reason when I bank or turn its slightly 'jerky' its enough to be noticed, I cant think of why this is happening,anyone had similar probs?? helllp! :/
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running zonealarm?
SKurj
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Yup that was my first thought as well, If I run ZA with AH my FPS tells me one thing but my overall experience tells me something totally different. Also If I run the "United Devices" Cancer Research agent (I know some AH flyers subscribe to this) I get similar results.
TTFN
snafu
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Yeah,Im running Zonealarm Pro,but I did same with old pc and no problems at all,I might try new drivers for my 3d card,heheh I knew something had to go wrong with the new puter! :rolleyes:
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Zone alarm seems to hate some setups, my brother runs my old PC with ZA all the time, not a flicker of a stutter, my new (old now) PC abhors it. FPS readings are identical with ZA loaded or not but playability sucks.
TTFN
snafu
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yeah I 'think' its the little system bar flashing icon, somehow interfering with AH and video resources...
This is with ZoneAlarm. I could not use ZA myself while playin
SKurj
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As some know, I was getting discoed like 65 or 70 times this month alone all of a sudden. Disabled ZA this morning and all seems fine or at least much better............. Hope that's it
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Hmmm okay Ill try turnin it off,Ive always wondered,do I really need it,I mean,how bad IS the threat to my pc without Zonealarm,I got Adsl so I suppose I do need it...
cheers for the help :)
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I used ZA for about two years and realized it's much more of a headache than it's worth (especially with surfing and xp). Instead I've gone to Tiny Personal Firewall which leaves my resources free pretty much. Works like a champ and you get the same quality (and even more tweakable [but automated if you choose] options)
GL
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I used to use free ZA but too many problems with AH. I switched to free Sygate and no problems at all. TPF is also good. Check this liink. http://grc.com/lt/scoreboard.htm from Steve Gibsons Leak Test.
LEAK-PROOF (SAFER) PERSONAL FIREWALLS
Firewall Considerations, versions, etc.
McAfee Firewall v 2.15+ — Update to get version 2.15 or later
Sygate Personal FW (FREE) v 4.0+ — FREE for personal use!
Symantec / Norton v 2.55+ — LiveUpdate to get version 2.55
Tiny Personal FW (FREE) v 2.0.7+ — FREE for personal use!
ZoneAlarm (FREE) Never Leaked
ZoneAlarm Pro Never Leaked
DJ229
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Geforce4 MX lacks all Dx8 functions so I wouldn't be surprised if it started bugging out with AH.
MX is a very bad buy.. you can get a Ti4200 for the same money and it will beat it here and back.
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Ripley... WHAT A LOAD O CRAP +)
If ya can get a 4200 instead of an MX sure go ahead, but I doubt they are as cheap as gf4 mx 440's
The MX card may not be fully dx8 compliant BUT, ALOT of guys have been using gf2 mx's for along time in AH and they have never given a problem. AH doesn't support anything (so far) that an MX doesn't.
SKurj
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Skurj I don't see any reason to buy a raped piece of hardware for practically the price of the real deal..
Not to mention in the near future when dx8 pure hardware games start coming in, the MX's will crap out with them.
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Yeah,Ill be getting a more powerful GeForce 4 when funds permit me,getting this pc has kinda wiped me out hehehe,bought another 256mb DDR yesterday which has helped out with things a lot,strangely enough,while flying trying to figure out this 'stuttering/jerking' it 'seems' to be tied in with having Clutter ON,I turned it off and things are fine now,I never liked the clutter effects on land anyway,it only looks good over water,on the subject of GeForce 4 MXs,you should have seen the one that came with the new Pc lol,it was BAD,I ripped that out and put the 440 in, IL2 runs smoother than a smooth thing now so Im happy :D
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I think he removed his sheep from the case :D.
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pure dx8 games Ripley...
Well lets put it this way... The most common cards found in pc's nowadays has to be a GF MX series. Sure in the not too distant future some games will come along that the MX line may not be able to do 'everything' but any developer that ignores the MX crowd is in fer a shock... (something HTC cannot afford to do atm)
There are several features on the Ti series of cards that the MX cannot do, but I've yet to find a single current game or app that cannot be scaled to permit an MX card to play the game.
As far as MX's being raped hardware... BS again +) its a faster GF2 MX thats all. Its close to 2x as fast as my old one and it cost me the SAME as it did.
By the time games come along that an MX cannot play... The 'latest and greatest' crew will be using GF8's.(and spending at least 2x as much as those of us with either A) different priorities B) smaller wallets)
SKurj
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Skurj it doesn't really deserve the GF4 title because it lacks practically all the technological advancements embedded in the real Gf4 series.
It will be outdated months, maybe even a year before the real deal, forcing you to pay more than the difference for a more powerful card.
My principle is to upgrade to 80% of the top performance - that way I won't have to change parts every other month, keep cost reasonable and have top-notch performance in the meantime.
I haven't seen a hardware site yet that would actually reckommend buying one if you can spare a few extra bucks for the Ti.
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Sorry ripley, i won't spend anymore then than i will now...
I will spend 40% of the cost of a high end card next yr as i did this yr, and last yr...
SKurj
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Naturally that's your choice Skurj and I understand that..
I just wanted to make clear that the MX series is not the best bang for your bucks.
There are also other things to take into consideration like image quality (especially high-res 2D) and overclockability. I chose my present card because tests showed it had a superior RF filter design, giving a far better image quality than the standard geforce cards.
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thats kewl ripley, i'll buy a gf4ti4600 next spring for probably little more than i paid for my mx
o course or a gf5 mx lol
SKurj
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Anyone look at the price of a GF3 TI200 lately :)