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Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Heinkel on June 02, 2002, 02:26:08 PM
See the picture, a Me262a-1 w/ 2 Wgr21 rockets. Picture taken from this link (it's in German)


Me262 w/ Wgr21 (http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugkorper/wgr21.htm )
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Wilbus on June 02, 2002, 05:47:27 PM
WGr 21 are hadrly used at all in AH at the moment, worthless against the ground. They'll be come more usefull when we get 3 box buff formations though.

R4M rockets would be better for 262 IMO.
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: DarkglamJG52 on June 02, 2002, 07:36:40 PM
R4M better.
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Innominate on June 02, 2002, 07:46:25 PM
How are you supposed to use the wgr rockets?  I've managed to hit bombers with them, but only at point blank range, might as well use guns that close.  Is it possible to be able to consistantly land them from outside of a bombers guns?  (Or right on the edge?)
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: chunder' on June 02, 2002, 07:54:17 PM
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Originally posted by Innominate
How are you supposed to use the wgr rockets?  I've managed to hit bombers with them, but only at point blank range, might as well use guns that close.  Is it possible to be able to consistantly land them from outside of a bombers guns?  (Or right on the edge?)


The best advice I can give is this... when flying straight and level, fire the rockets when you're approximately D1.2 (chasing the target), and with the target aircraft at the bottom of the "glass" portion of the sight... of course at D1.2 most gunners will be lighting you up like a christmas tree :)
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Kweassa on June 02, 2002, 11:39:59 PM
Pyro fixed the WGr21 trajectory so it fires correctly from the rocket tubes. The angle used to be all wrong before, and Mandoble actually proved this :)

 I don't know if it is so in AH, but it is said the WGr21 trajectory is the same as MK108 trajectory.
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 03, 2002, 01:35:18 AM
It would be great to get some bombs on it

otherwise
2K bombs for the P38
:)
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Dr Zhivago on June 03, 2002, 02:20:33 AM
R 4/M would be good addition to Me262 and Fw190xx armament. Still waiting to see anti-tank rockets (R-B Panzerblitz) at FW190 F8, this pick shows part of F8s wing where wooden rocket launcher was fitted...
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: MANDOBLE on June 03, 2002, 03:44:36 AM
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Originally posted by Wilbus
worthless against the ground.


I use them exclusively as AG weapon, they are very effective against buildings.
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Heinkel on June 03, 2002, 05:41:21 AM
Sure 24 R4M would be better, but the model we have didn't carry the 24 R4M. The Me 262A-1b carried the 24 R4M, we have the Me 262 A-1a
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Dr Zhivago on June 03, 2002, 06:00:15 AM
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Originally posted by Heinkel
Sure 24 R4M would be better, but the model we have didn't carry the 24 R4M. The Me 262A-1b carried the 24 R4M, we have the Me 262 A-1a


Me262 A-1b was identical to the 1a version but b version carried those additional 24 spin-stabilised R-4/M 55mm rockets... ;)
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Tracer-15 on June 03, 2002, 02:49:52 PM
no .....give us the R4M instead
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: Soviet on June 04, 2002, 12:11:51 AM
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
It would be great to get some bombs on it

otherwise
2K bombs for the P38
:)


nice try at hijacking the thread :D anyway i've heard the 2k bombs were very rarly if ever loaded on the p38s
Title: Wgr21 for Me262 Please!
Post by: empire2 on June 05, 2002, 07:04:34 PM
what the hell...am i seeing things...it looks like the wing gun on that site is fake...:cool: im not joking