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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Fariz on June 04, 2002, 05:17:53 AM
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Hi HTC, all,
One of the goal I set for myself in the start of each tour is to get the longest kills streak, to beat Fishu's record he set in beta time. It keeps my interest for AH, because it is really challenging... Problem is that you can do it only in the start of tour, if you die, you need to wait a whole month for next streak try.
So request is simple, make a longest streak shown in the scores for fighters, bombers, gv's. It shall be easy to code: variable (db field), which gets kills if sortie ends with land/ditch, get nothing if it ends with disco, and set it to 0 if sortie ends with bail/capture etc. When it is 0, if this streak is longer than the longest one... Well, you know it better, than I do, it really easy to implement.
May be there is a gameplay considerationgs, which prevents from addins such field to game, but I do not see what it can be. Actually real aces had "streaks" in our understanding, and making more kills than Hartman in 109, or Sakai in zero, etc. will be another nice goal to play for :)
Pleeeeeeeeeease :)
Fariz
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you got 2 Trys Fariz.. either fly attack or fighter sorties :)
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Good idea Fariz, was like this back in WB, could see a longest streak (I asume you flew WB aswell).
Was very very good.
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Who needs that kind a counter!
I can count by my self to the....5?:rolleyes:
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Fariz, they fixed the volcano bug.
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We had this in FA2 as well. Was fun running around with 30 or so stars :) everyone ws always gunning for you if you had multiple stars. We also learned teh correct way to ditch a lot, especially if the fight turned bad on us.
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Im sure that all Finn squads will take care that you dont beat that record!:D
hehe..;)
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Originally posted by Toad
Fariz, they fixed the volcano bug.
Were you there ?
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Is one allowed to ditch a plane in a kill streak? (Did Fishu?)
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I totally agree. I enjoyed the kill streak in WB as well.
Please AH, give us the kill streak variable.
Kuben
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Yep. Was sitting there watching the kill buffer rack up his totals.
I wondered how anyone could kill so many so fast.
Then somebody told me about the volcano bug.
Stand by for the inevitable denial. :D
But yes, I was online watching at least one of his "kill streaks" run up in the buffer.
Couldn't say which "streak" it was though. Was too busy laughing after somebody told me all you had to do was bail into the volcano and sit there while the system kills were given to you. Couldn't believe anyone would waste time like that.
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Yes and there should be more score for the kills you make as the streak progresses. Perhaps a greater incentive for people to try to live longer.
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Fishu, you making an urban legend heah! :D
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lol toad!
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At the time I was in same squad with Fishu, along with MrAnza and Pirado. Of all the times we flew together, I never witnessed him exploiting the volcano bug. His highest kill per sortie was something like 15 (vulching). Anza was better, totalling 17 or 18 in a sortie. If there was a volcano bug exploiting, I never saw it.
I'd describe his flying at the time as very cautious. While all of us would turn into the enemy and take our chances, he just played safe. Although he did fight and has returned few times with parts missing.
Still, judging by the kill percentage, kill per time, I wouldn't say it was bug exploiting.
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In fact, IIRC, somebody started teasing him in the buffer about it and he finally admitted he was in the volcano. I seem to remember him getting credit for over 200 kills by then.
So he did it. I think he even admitted somewhere here on the BBS that he exploited the bug.
Although, of course, he also claims he has a "legitimate" streak of considerable length.
My most memorable encounter with him was when once saw a higher 109 engaged with a friendly and headed that way, climbing to the fight. This was one of the rare times I was in a 109.
Down goes the friendly, text buffer immediately shows a kill by Fishu.
By now I'm about con range and just a bit below. I figure this higher 109 has to be Fishu and he'll be coming for me.
Wrong. He leaves and I chase. There's no one else around, so I ask him on buffer to engage. He says he's low on fuel, low on ammo, his dog is scratchin at the door, the pizza man just showed up, etc.
I chase him nearly two sectors in a 109. Now I'm low on fuel, still below him and can't catch him. I turn around; sure enough, here he comes. I turn into him: sure enough, there he goes again.
Never could get him to engage dcespite the fact that he was above me the whole sortie. Wasted a tank of electronic internet gas on that sortie.
The other thing I remember is the night he tried to tell everyone in the arena that trim tabs work differently on high horsepower aircraft than they do on low horsepower aircraft.
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When I played Warbirds several years ago the kill message appearing in the text buffer indicated how many consecutive kills you achieve without losing your plane. so if you got 3 kill, landed and went to bed, the next kill you got showed up as kill 4. That made the game real fun IMHO. Sure wish AH worked the same way :(
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I think that whenever somebody beats the existing kill streak, that new record should be e-mailed out to every AH account holder so everybody can learn of the glorious deed. ;)
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Originally posted by Toad
Fariz, they fixed the volcano bug.
Toad :)
Actually I do not care if Fishu did it fair, or he alt-4 and exploited vulcano bug :) He set some result which is interesting to try to beat.
Fariz
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yes im of the same opinion fariz.
its not really fishu we are interested in.
its the challenge of streaking that far. and the chance to do it more than just one time every tour (although I dont mind once a tour if that one streak can be recorded)
beta was easier to get kills in and rtb.
it simply was not as perilous in beta as it is in ah now. the players are across the board quite good and very dangerous now. they will not forgive your mistakes.
this makes flying in the same style as russian and german lone wolf pilots quite an exciting challenge when you've killed everything else under the sun in furballs, missions and kamikazi sorties.
their only mission was to get kills and return alive
every few tours I try to do this at the start of a new tour just to see how far I can get.
and I must say its quite exciting to face the simple odds that say for every kill the probability of being shot down is more and more likely.
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Originally posted by Citabria
yes im of the same opinion fariz.
its not really fishu we are interested in.
its the challenge of streaking that far. and the chance to do it more than just one time every tour (although I dont mind once a tour if that one streak can be recorded)
beta was easier to get kills in and rtb.
it simply was not as perilous in beta as it is in ah now. the players are across the board quite good and very dangerous now. they will not forgive your mistakes.
this makes flying in the same style as russian and german lone wolf pilots quite an exciting challenge when you've killed everything else under the sun in furballs, missions and kamikazi sorties.
their only mission was to get kills and return alive
every few tours I try to do this at the start of a new tour just to see how far I can get.
and I must say its quite exciting to face the simple odds that say for every kill the probability of being shot down is more and more likely.
Very true, it's not the same game. A "good" player now would have been a holy terror flying the same way in the beta days. Also bugs were abound, so many weird things happened.
Besides, I have my doubts about Fishus record.
In Bets Tour 2, no one was credited with shooting him down, but his stats say:
Kills of Fighters
212
7
Kills of Bombers
93
0
Fighter Assists
22
0
Bomber Assists
8
0
Sorties
162
37
Landed
151
34
Discos
0
0
Bails
0
0
Ditches
0
0
Captures
0
0
Deaths
11
3
Object Damage
34215.7245
704073.8750
Object Destroyed
2775.0000
49650.0000
Plane Damage
75076.0745
1769.9412
Kill Score
302.5625
7.0000
Total Sortie Time
322827
50428
Ordnance 0 Used
116402
43388
Ordnance 1 Used
3
312
Ordnance 2 Used
8
0
Ordnance 3 Used
0
0
Ordnance 4 Used
0
70
Ordnance 0 Hit
9541
574
Ordnance 1 Hit
0
347
Ordnance 2 Hit
2
0
Ordnance 3 Hit
0
0
Ordnance 4 Hit
0
62
Rank Ratio
Rank Ratio
Kills Per Death
2 25.4167
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Kills Per Sortie
21 1.8827
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Kills Per Time
486 0.0009
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Damage Per Death
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2 197678.6499
Damage Per Sortie
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2 21370.6649
Field Captures
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60 7.0000
Hit %
270 0.0820
4 1.1016
Points
15 75378.6370
13 790714.5995
Overall Rank
8
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"Deaths
11
3 "
makes you wonder...
Personally, I hold Fester's streak as the record.
How long was that Cit?
eskimo
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best streak was a few tours ago in a p51d eskimo, 152 kills. i died fighting an la7 at 20k :) found out after he had only fuel vapors left while I tried to foolishly fight him with a full load of internal fuel. he blew off my vert stab as i crossed his path after we stalled :D
so now i never underestimate an la7 at high altitude because they are always flying on fumes :D
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Streaks in WB
Bails or ditches in friendly territory do no end a streak.
So you can "game" it by staying on your own side.
In the "game", while not historical, a bail IMO should end a streak. Ditch in friendly territory should not be penalized.
You bail, you lose.
That would put more butts on the runway.
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In general I'm not a huge fan of importing things from WB into AH, but the kill streak was one element that was a lot of fun. It did seem to have the effect of making people want to stay alive (Turbot mentioned this), because there was a substantial score multiplier as your streak grew (and that would be even more of an incentive here where perk points are a factor)--might make people think twice about the suicide dive onto a CV (and then again, probably not!). And on the third hand, it will ramp up the decibel level of the whining considerably. Imagine the text buffer when someone on his 14th kill has just been HOed!
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Fair is fair.
If you want a streak counter then accept a target over your plane. Once your streak gets bigger so does the target.
Let the whole dang arena know, this guy is a streaker and shoot him in the ass!
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Originally posted by eskimo2
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"Deaths
11
3 "
Beta was buggy. You had a bug which would kill you when you pressed .fly button, for example.
OTOH, if you die but the enemy who shot you before goes down sooner, he doesn't get the kill. This is still here ;).
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please forgive this ignorant...
I think I understand what a kill streak is but... I don't get why it isn't the way Fariz is requesting it to be (the system to keep track of it)... kinda confused... am I missing out on something?
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Can you carry a kill streak over from a previous tour?Just wondering..
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Fair is fair.
If you want a streak counter then accept a target over your plane. Once your streak gets bigger so does the target.
Let the whole dang arena know, this guy is a streaker and shoot him in the ass!
Yep, and combination with added name tags to the plane ID will be extra fun, :D
Muuuhahahahaha