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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AKDejaVu on June 04, 2002, 07:18:01 PM
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Tour 28 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour28/tour28.htm)
Enjoy!
AKDejaVu
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Lots of good info. Thanks.
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As expected AKDejaVu is on top of things
and thanks
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Mein Cott!
Der Spit IX has 11% of the kills!
I vill get HT on zee phon rite avay!
Ziss must shtop!
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Whoo Hoo!..Tempest wins again!!!
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Would I be remiss if I pointed out the lowly Fw190A8 has a higher K/D than the uber Spit V?
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spit v are flown by idiots
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
spit v are flown by idiots
Shhh... I might just steal your kills again.
LOL Moron.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Who is gonna up an A8 from a vulched base which is one of the primary duties of the SpitV and IX? Even so, Spit IX still has a respectible K/D.
I'm surprised to see the F4U-1 with a superior K/D ratio than the F4U-1D. I really enjoyed my tour with the F4U-1 (and am in awe of Lazs' scores in her very much!) and may have to do it again. I may have found my ride. Now I'll have to do some research on that variant because I'm curious just what exactly are her contemporaries. Is she a 1943 bird or a 1944? Now all we need is a 3-tone F6F-3. :D
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Originally posted by Steven
Who is gonna up an A8 from a vulched base which is one of the primary duties of the SpitV and IX? Even so, Spit IX still has a respectible K/D.
Don't worry, Puke, Grunherz's statement is personal. He feels slighted that I "stole" his unscathed kills the other night in my Spit V when we were 4v4. Poor guy. "If only I had a Spit!" he declared.
Well, he didn't. And so it goes.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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KI-61 is number 5???
Whats the story on THAT?
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Who is gonna up an A8 from a vulched base which is one of the primary duties of the SpitV and IX? Even so, Spit IX still has a respectible K/D.
LOL! The "serves all" stat. "upping from a vulched field".
Of course the k/d would be better if the Spit wasn't used at vulched fields so much. But then... the Spit's kill tally would be reduced too. You see... you can't argue one without acknowledging the other.
AKDejaVu
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And all the other aircraft's tallies would be lower too so the relationship has to be taken into account and would score the Spit very well. ;)
Are we having a debate about something?
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Originally posted by Steven
Who is gonna up an A8 from a vulched base which is one of the primary duties of the SpitV and IX? Even so, Spit IX still has a respectible K/D.
I do it often.
My stats in 190A8 tour 28:
Fw 190A-8 Kills in 84 died in 36
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Thank god for all idiots making the fu4-c as a low perked plane because they fly it like toejame.
Prolly one of the best planes in here but nobody knows rofl.
A very capable headon faceshooter/deflecton killer. With a huge base killing capasity.
It can even outturn a spit/nik the first 2 turns and shoot the toejame outta them, funny thing is always beeing accused of cheating when that happnens rofl.
Thank god im a dweeb and like it hehe :D
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AKDejaVu,
Thanks great job again.
Do you have all tour stats available on a website? (I would like to download the older ones, without having to search the BBS)
P.S. 190A8 my main ride in tour 28 (127 kills in, 44 died in, mostly flown below 15k!), starting to get used to it and learning to deal with it's pros and cons. Still taking to many chances sometimes though, :)
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Originally posted by Steven
[BAnd all the other aircraft's tallies would be lower too so the relationship has to be taken into account and would score the Spit very well. ;)
Are we having a debate about something? [/B]
No.. not really. You would have to assume that a Spit is never used to vulch a field. For that to apply.
AKDejaVu
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Wow! the -1a got up to a 1/1 K/D this tour! Nice to see people trying it.
mandoble... I would agree that a lot of the guys flying the five are not that good but there are some very good ones out there. I have fought DMF many times his five against my -1.. If I don't know it's him I underestimate the plane to my detriment. If I know i't him we have a darn good fight. I think he does well considereing and I think that whining about the five is silly since it is obvious that even the mediocre -1 can dictate the fight over it.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
Wow! the -1a got up to a 1/1 K/D this tour! Nice to see people trying it.
mandoble... I would agree that a lot of the guys flying the five are not that good but there are some very good ones out there. I have fought DMF many times his five against my -1.. If I don't know it's him I underestimate the plane to my detriment. If I know i't him we have a darn good fight. I think he does well considereing and I think that whining about the five is silly since it is obvious that even the mediocre -1 can dictate the fight over it.
lazs
I flew the -1 almost the entire tour (95% of sorties, only 2 weeks for me due to vacation) and managed a 5.75 K/D ratio in it, talk about a perk monster! Now what the hell do I do with all these fighter perks? ;)
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looks like LA7 needs to be perked.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Now what the hell do I do with all these fighter perks? ;)
I can help you by vulching when you are upping 262.:cool:
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I aspire to be one day as good as Leviathn in the Spit V, or at least as smart and pick my fights better! :)
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Did anyone notice the K/D for chutes? Think I found my new ride!
Perk the chute
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Huh? That doesn't make sense at all. The Spits aren't doing more of the vulching than being the vulchee. Basically, the Spitfire being the first choice to defend a vulched field has, without a doubt, an impact on its K/D. I saw it last night as the Knights swept the map, Spit after Spit getting nailed on the runway before it can even get wheels up. The "Serves All" Stat? I haven't a clue what you are arguing about, but it seems you argue that *something* has to up a vulched field which is not the case. I don't know how I get involved in these really stupid debates, and this is a dumb one. On a personal note, there was one or two times I upped my F4U from a vulched base because I made it a point to only fly the one bird and this certainly didn't help my K/D ratio. I stand by the statement that this has some impact (one part) on why the A8 has a better K/D ratio than the SpitV.
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The Fw190-a8 is a freakin 20mm love machine.
Its my new favorite Fw, especially for Jabo. Went 78 kills and 9 deaths in it last tour.
PERK ALL FW's!!!
F.
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It seems more and more that the 190A5 is the best non-perked plane as far as K/D and perk-earning goes. The Ki-61 has a slightly higher K/D, but since you hardly ever see a Ki-61 its K/D probably represents a few really good pilots. Every tour the 190A5 has one of the highest non-perked K/D's. Not bad for a '42-'43 plane.
ra
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Originally posted by ra
It seems more and more that the 190A5 is the best non-perked plane as far as K/D and perk-earning goes. The Ki-61 has a slightly higher K/D, but since you hardly ever see a Ki-61 its K/D probably represents a few really good pilots. Every tour the 190A5 has one of the highest non-perked K/D's. Not bad for a '42-'43 plane.
ra
Heh, time to pull up all those Luftwhiner threads about how porked the FM is. ;)
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Woohoo! The zeke is the number one aircra.....ohhh, that's alphabetical.
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ripsnore... I meant those who flew more than 5 hours for the tour and got more than 26 total kills. It helps to get more than 4.5 kills per hour too. I mean.... I had a 12/1 K/D ratio this tour for the first couple hours... it's the long haul that's hard... for me at least. but then... I still haven't quite got the hang of this.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I still haven't quite got the hang of this.
lazs
as long as you guys stay Knights, I'd like to see you get the hang of this. If you go back to rook, please stay "mediocre." I'd not like to see you good when your guns are pointed at me (especially with your F4U-1 record against Spit Vs)
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oh man look at the poor spit 1 =)
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Originally posted by lazs2
ripsnore... I meant those who flew more than 5 hours for the tour and got more than 26 total kills. It helps to get more than 4.5 kills per hour too. I mean.... I had a 12/1 K/D ratio this tour for the first couple hours... it's the long haul that's hard... for me at least. but then... I still haven't quite got the hang of this.
lazs
Hey hey! I put in my 30 hours last month! (down from 120 a year ago!)
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LOL I wasn't reffering at you Leviathan... the spit guys encounter these days are so poor that they can barely turn with my Bf109G6...
And that kill steal toejam, I had a bad day with that on that occasion think i lost 6 kills in the past few sorties by hordes of spits and la7 just deciding to engage after i got the con nice and slow and stuck in a turn.
anyway spit pilots are idiots
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QUOTE]Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
"anyway spit pilots are idiots"
Hi GRUNHERZ... ;)
Tour 28 Spit Stats:
Spit V : 35 kills/3 deaths
Spit14: 33 kills/3 deaths
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Hmmmmmm question...
Fw190a5 has killed fw190a5 60 times... yet its K/D vs itself is 0.984....
may need the mathman on this one +)
SKurj
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Originally posted by SKurj
Hmmmmmm question...
Fw190a5 has killed fw190a5 60 times... yet its K/D vs itself is 0.984....
may need the mathman on this one +)
SKurj
All of the K/D colums are automated... thusly they use the K/d+1 formula to avoid divide-by-zero errors. The K/D in the "Fighter vs Fighter" page is actually just k/d since it is highly unlikely that a fighter goes all tour without getting shot down once.
AKDejaVu
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BTW... you'll notice that every fighter has less than a 1:1 k/d ratio against itself according to the stats page.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Apar
AKDejaVu,
Thanks great job again.
Do you have all tour stats available on a website? (I would like to download the older ones, without having to search the BBS)
P.S. 190A8 my main ride in tour 28 (127 kills in, 44 died in, mostly flown below 15k!), starting to get used to it and learning to deal with it's pros and cons. Still taking to many chances sometimes though, :) [/QUOTE
Tour 24 went 161 and 28 in fw190 A8 All at low alt
Tour 22 Bf 109G-10 282 69
Fw 190D-9 182 39
Fw 190F-8 113 32
Fw 190A-5 108 25
Fw 190A-8 106 29
Kills/Death
Best tour ever in the FW190's
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Tour 28 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour28/tour28.htm)
Tour 27 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour27/tour27.htm)
Tour 26 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour26/tour26.htm)
Tour 25 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour25/tour25.htm)
Tour 24 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour24/tour24.htm)
Tour 23 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour23/tour23.htm)
Tour 22 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour22/tour22.htm)
Tour 21 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour21/tour21.htm)
Tour 20 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour20/tour20.htm)
Tour 19 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour19/tour19.htm)
Tour 18 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour18/tour18.htm)
Tour 17 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour17/tour17.htm)
Tour 16 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour16/tour16.htm)
Tour 15 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour15/tour15.htm)
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Finally added these tonight:
Tour 14 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour14/tour14.htm)
Tour 13 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour13/tour13.htm)
Tour 12 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour12/tour12.htm)
Tour 11 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour11/tour11.htm)
Tour 10 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour10/tour10.htm)
Tour 9 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour9/tour9.htm)
Tour 8 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour8/tour8.htm)
Tour 7 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour7/tour7.htm)
Tour 6 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour6/tour6.htm)
Tour 5 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour5/tour5.htm)
Tour 4 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour4/tour4.htm)
Tour 3 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour3/tour3.htm)
Tour 2 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour2/tour2.htm)
Tour 1 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/tour1/tour1.htm)
Beta Tour 3 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/betatour3/betatour3.htm)
Beta Tour 2 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/betatour2/betatour2.htm)
Beta Tour 1 (http://www.dbstaines.com/tourstats/betatour1/betatour1.htm)
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Uhh... Steven, the Spits very much do vultch, and that is AK's point. You can't throw the Spits out of the vultcher picture when considering the stat. This I am an authority on, as I have been vultched by everything going (stubborn field defense mentality). I gave Mitsu 10 in a row once, and you know he only flew Spits.
Now you wanna talk about the real vultchers, watch the D9s and La7s. Hit the runway hard and extend, over and over. Run if someone really gets enough alt to be a prob, run back through the crowd when the guy turns away...
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Kieran,
Uhhh, I never said Spitfires do not vulch. I merely suggested the 190A5 has a superior K/D record to the SpitV due to the role that the Spitfire is often placed in which is vulched base defense and there is no denying that this has an impact on the Spit's overall K/D. The Spitfire is a tremendous fighter and I think could actually have a greater K/D ratio. Fly more safely and select your targets more carefully and your K/D improves. Kieran, you sure do speak for other people a lot and seem to always know what people actually mean.
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Good job in the A8 Sachs,
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Thanks again Deja. :)
Apar
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RA, you're right.
some good Japanese pilots flying in Ki-61 (Hanzo, sekiji, GTR, or more...and me). :)
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Sachs is AGJV44 btw in case you guys are thinking "I never heard of him" :)
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The reason the Fw-190A5 does so well is because a lot of pilots underestimate it, I usually see people who are not dedicated LW types that just wanna try a 190 for once usually goto the Dora because it has the speed and has a lower ENY meaning it must be better.
The 190a5 is left on the side where people who know how good it is fly it :)
The main reason it does so well i guess is someone sees it and thinks "oh a 190 this will be an easy kill" sucks for the guy who thinks that :D
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Originally posted by Soviet
The main reason it does so well i guess is someone sees it and thinks "oh a 190 this will be an easy kill" sucks for the guy who thinks that :D
42-19 v 190a5's since Jan. - yeah it's one of the more challenging FW's to fight, and easier to get involved into a fight because it can't run away like the Dorka Dweebs do, but it's still just a fw, i.e., meat on a stick.
:D
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Chute stats are porked. I know that I killed at least 50 chutes last tour....most of them in a P47D11. :)
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Chute kills have not been tracked for some time. Tis a bummer IMO.
AKDejaVu