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Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: RatPenat on June 05, 2002, 03:33:35 AM
What are differences between P47 D-11, D-25 and D-30?
And where can i find information about P47M?
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Hristo on June 05, 2002, 08:21:03 AM
P47D-11 used to be underweight
P47D-25 has strange Brazilian markings
P47D-30 newbies ruin its score
P47M info is available in coloring books published by Ammobooks
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: -ammo- on June 05, 2002, 08:48:06 AM
LOL hristo, mostly true.

In respect to AH performance, there is really not alot of diffrence between the three P-47's we have in regards to performance.  In ordinace capability, the D30 shines, and IMO, is the ultimate JABO.

The D11 is a true razorback, and AH has modeled it slightly faster at all altiutdes, about 4 MPH. It has limited range due to its smaller tanks and ability to carry only a 75 gallon DT. In real life, in 1944, the D11 had 150 gallon DT's available.

The D25 is modeled in Brazilian colors. It used the same engine as the D11. It could carry more ordinance and fuel than the D11. It is also equiped with a hamilton Prop, which in real life significantly helped its climbrate.

The best reference that I know of for information on all P-47s is Warren Bodie's "THUNDERBOLT, FROM SEVERSKI TO VICTORY"
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Monk on June 05, 2002, 09:09:13 AM
Ammo, he asked for expert P47 Drivers ;)
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: -ammo- on June 05, 2002, 09:44:54 AM
you gotta point there. Hey did you get that second coat of wax on my jug yet?:)
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: RatPenat on June 05, 2002, 11:44:33 AM
lol thank you guys
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Widewing on June 05, 2002, 11:57:20 AM
You can all read about the P-47 and its various versions by going to P-47: Aviation Darwinism (http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Seversky-Republic.html) .

This article was written by C.C. Jordan with Warren Bodie specifically for the Cradle of Aviation Museum. If you can't find Bodie's book, this is a good primer on the aircraft, with lots of photos and illustrations. It consists of about 17,000 words in 8 chapters, or about 5 times larger than a typical magazine article.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Warren M. Bodie
Post by: RightF00T on June 05, 2002, 01:01:22 PM
Picked up his book "The Lockheed P-38 Lightning" the other day which seems to be a good read so far although the story/history can get a bit slow/bland at times. Nonetheless, I recommend it if simply for the great pictures.

ISBN 0-9629359-5-6

$24.95
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: nuchpatrick on June 05, 2002, 01:10:00 PM
Great Book Right Foot.. I've just gotten throught the frist 3 chapters..so far it's a decent read
Title: Re: Warren M. Bodie
Post by: Widewing on June 05, 2002, 03:16:10 PM
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Originally posted by RightF00T
Picked up his book "The Lockheed P-38 Lightning" the other day which seems to be a good read so far although the story/history can get a bit slow/bland at times. Nonetheless, I recommend it if simply for the great pictures.

ISBN 0-9629359-5-6

$24.95


Warren is a good friend and occasional co-writer. The next time you guys want to buy his books, I'll see if Warren has any autographed copies at home. Those of you who wish to e-mail Mr. Bodie, drop me a line and I'll forward you his address. At 79 yrs old, he still loves to hear from his readers.

BTW, he's working on several new books as I write this.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: -ammo- on June 05, 2002, 04:26:45 PM
Awesome Widewing. Do you think if I was to ship my copy of Thunderbolt to him, he might autogragh it for me?
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: DmdBT on June 05, 2002, 06:55:52 PM
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Originally posted by -ammo-
Awesome Widewing. Do you think if I was to ship my copy of Thunderbolt to him, he might autogragh it for me?



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My copy of Thunderbolt! is autographed by Johnson :)


Lonz
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Tac on June 05, 2002, 07:07:14 PM
Hey Widewing, on that website, quote:


"As the later half of the 1930’s crept by, the obvious increase in tensions in Europe and Japan’s war with China created a greater demand worldwide for combat aircraft. Seversky, feeling the severe pinch of the depression combined with American isolationism was quickly being overwhelmed by red ink. The Major began marketing his aircraft and design experience to several nations. Soon, orders began arriving from Japan, the Soviet Union, Columbia and Sweden. "

Columbia? or Colombia?
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Widewing on June 05, 2002, 07:31:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tac
Hey Widewing, on that website, quote:


"As the later half of the 1930’s crept by, the obvious increase in tensions in Europe and Japan’s war with China created a greater demand worldwide for combat aircraft. Seversky, feeling the severe pinch of the depression combined with American isolationism was quickly being overwhelmed by red ink. The Major began marketing his aircraft and design experience to several nations. Soon, orders began arriving from Japan, the Soviet Union, Columbia and Sweden. "

Columbia? or Colombia?


Aw heck, just substitute New Jersey there. Hell, half of Colombia lives there now anyway....:D

My regards,

Widewing
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Widewing on June 05, 2002, 07:33:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by -ammo-
Awesome Widewing. Do you think if I was to ship my copy of Thunderbolt to him, he might autogragh it for me?


I'd wager on it. I have to call him tomorrow (6/6/02), and I'll ask him for you.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Monk on June 06, 2002, 12:33:42 AM
$§%&%&..............%&%&%$.....
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 06, 2002, 01:06:40 AM
Please do mine too, it hasn't been waxed by you since this morning.

(http://home.cfl.rr.com/rauns/p472.jpg)
But if you spit on mine, I will pee on yours.:D
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Mitsu on June 06, 2002, 04:00:37 AM
Nice pic Frenchy. :)
Btw did you fly for the Japan/Korea W-Cup??
Title: Nice Plane,
Post by: Loddar on June 06, 2002, 04:37:35 AM
that "Jug" called P47.

Ok, it hold a few :cool:  negative properties like climbing like a stone or that damn thing shakes while high speed dives and compresses and the german Focke Wulf is the better choice for flying, but...

- nothing can hold so much damage and still flys
- the loadout is like an PJ and you have better internal view
- in high alt that "flying stone" is speed up
- lots of guns :D, when enemy is in sight press all gun buttons
  and fill the air around the enemys flight path with bullets,
  you have enough of it, anything should hit him. :D
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: Monk on June 06, 2002, 06:16:15 AM
:eek: LOL, WTG Frenchy:)
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: whgates3 on June 06, 2002, 11:03:54 AM
http://home.att.net/~Historyzone/Seversky-Republic7.html
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 07, 2002, 01:34:52 AM
She's a beauty :D   ... dam brazilian jug:mad: !

Japan/Korea was canceled :(  Korea wasn't very cooperative with flying permits.

Loddar, what do u mean this thing compresses at high speed and FW/109s better? :cool:
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: straffo on June 07, 2002, 02:06:46 AM
any tips about the D25 ?

The D30 and D11 feel allright but the D25 just seem to be the worst of all for me :(
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 07, 2002, 02:16:33 AM
Many brazilians have nice jugs.
Title: Re: Nice Plane,
Post by: -ammo- on June 07, 2002, 05:51:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Loddar
that "Jug" called P47.

Ok, it hold a few :cool:  negative properties like climbing like a stone or that damn thing shakes while high speed dives and compresses and the german Focke Wulf is the better choice for flying, but...

- nothing can hold so much damage and still flys
- the loadout is like an PJ and you have better internal view
- in high alt that "flying stone" is speed up
- lots of guns :D, when enemy is in sight press all gun buttons
  and fill the air around the enemys flight path with bullets,
  you have enough of it, anything should hit him. :D


cough... more propaganda. completely untrue. and the jug is much better looking than any German AC too.
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 07, 2002, 12:24:56 PM
Everybody knows that the FW190 was a pale attempt to copy the P47 blueprints ... and the Me109 was a cropduster converted in the heat of the uncoming war.:D
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: bj229r on June 13, 2002, 08:24:42 PM
Heh..not an expert jug flyer, but P-47M came out in Jan. '45... almost all planes went to 56th..had tons engine problems, mostly due to incorrect storage procedures for shipping. That was all fixed by march---M went 470 mph level..was fastest prop job of war....but by march, 1945...wasnt much to do but shoot up trains.
Title: question for expert P47 dirvers
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 13, 2002, 10:06:19 PM
They are no P47 experts, only P47 dweebs.

oh and first M to reach the 56thFG ... jan3rd ... merry xmas :P