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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on June 06, 2002, 07:39:18 AM
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btw your trip in Normandie is allready planed Ripsnort you'll wake up very early and sleep very late :D
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Already told the wife about you in France, we're looking forward to it, now we just have to wait a couple years!
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to the tens of thousands who died on the beaches 58 years ago today
here's one site of thousands which honor those heroes:
http://www.dday.co.uk/
May they NEVER be forgotten!
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Every year I rent "The Longest Day" if it is not being shown on the networks. It is a self-imposed tradition and my little way of saying thank you to all those who fell.
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It's hard to imagine that many people so willingly laying down thier lives for freedom today. Thank God that they did that day :(
Thank you and Let's hope that kind of sacrifice is never needed again!
U
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Originally posted by Eagler
to the tens of thousands who died on the beaches 58 years ago today
Let's not get carried away. Less than 3000 were killed on D-Day.
Amazing, amazing men.
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From a quick search:
By evening on D-Day, the Allies had managed to land 130,000 men on the beaches, plus another 22,000 dropped by air. The entire assult force had suffered 8,600 casualties. No exact figures are possible, either for the number of men landed or for casualties, for D-Day alone. These figures are estimated as close as possible.
The Greatest Generation
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Don't confuse total casualties with total deaths.
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I agree, those numbers include wounded AFAIK.
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I hope that kind of sacrifice is never needed again. But they will never be forgotten, never.
Masher
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A general rule of thumb is 4 WIA for every 1 KIA.
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Originally posted by Kratzer
Let's not get carried away. Less than 3000 were killed on D-Day.
Amazing, amazing men.
None of the casualties would have been needed had a certain prettythanghole not been brought to power in Germany.
I refuse to honor the thoughts and policies of nazi's. I certainly won't claim any relation or alliegence with them, even in a game.
to all Allied vets, fallen and living. They were ALL casualties of this conflict. None left unscathed whether they suffered a combat wound or not. Thank you for your sacrifice.
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So are you trying to say that I do?
:rolleyes:
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ask umm how many times they bow their heads for the soviets at stalingrad, lenningrad or even the seelow heights
Fine brave men indeed, my grand father was one of umm but
to the tens of thousands who died on the beaches 58 years ago today
sounds like too much "saving private ryan" or mohaa
If you look at the number of german forces they were facing it was a foregone conclusion that the invasion would succeed.
Now i know most will get their red white and blue boxers in a bunch but keep it in perspective.
Flame Away im ready for it.
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The fact still remains that THIS is June 6th and thousands of men including CANADIANS not just Americans bravely waded ashore and took the first steps towards Berlin. So my boxers are just red and white.
When whatever day Stalingrad day is let us know and we shall acknowledge it.
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alright I got me numbers wrong :)
wasn't trying to. How's this:
That fateful day, with it's losses, did ruin tens of thousands of lives
Is that better?
After a clip on the news showing the troops in Afghanistan, marching up a mountain side with what looked like 150lbs on their backs, I realized how taken for granted they are. How many think "It's their job". It's more than a job as I'm sure many if not most could make as much if not more in the private sector doing much less/easier.
to all brave soldiers - past present and future
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Can't we have just one whoopee
to fallen hero's without a fuggin' flame fest erupting? :mad:
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Originally posted by Wotan
sounds like too much "saving private ryan" or mohaa
If you look at the number of german forces they were facing it was a foregone conclusion that the invasion would succeed.
Now i know most will get their red white and blue boxers in a bunch but keep it in perspective.
Flame Away im ready for it.
You keep it in perspective Wotan. Put yourself into the boots of one of those 18-19 year old kids running up a beach NOT KNOWING HOW MANY GERMAN DEFENDERS were arrayed against them. They were doing it to free France and other countries in Europe from Nazi occupation. The fact that you think you have evidence that proves the Germans were hopelessly outnumbered is just so much irrelevent crap. Go take your revisionist roadkill somewhere else. This is a salute to the brave young men of the generation that shaped our world.
And BTW all:
"only 3000" :rolleyes: Seems to me the word "only" doesn't belong.
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Look, it is extraordinarily important to remember these men, but it is also important to remember the facts. There is little enough awareness of WWII among most people for us to get it wrong when we talk about it. I'm not trying to start a flame war, Ripsnort, but I'm not going to let someone call me a Nazi.
AND - read my post. I didn't say 'only'. I said 'less than 3000'.
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the term "hero" is so overused today as to almost be meaningless...but the men who faced near-certain death as they scrambled up the beach that day have defined the term by example.
without being over melodramatic, they saved the world, literally.
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Originally posted by Kratzer
AND - read my post. I didn't say 'only'. I said 'less than 3000'.
I'm sorry Kratzer, I wasn't trying to imply that you said "only". I was just replying to the tenor of some other posts. You are correct of course, the facts are important. So is the honor we give those brave young men.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Can't we have just one whoopee to fallen hero's without a fuggin' flame fest erupting? :mad:
Ain't that the truth:(
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Target have you ever served?
Theres guys everyday today 18-xx who sacrifice everyday to be prepared.
As I said my Grandfather was there (not 1st wave) and I dont need you to tell me anything about it.
The fact is the its the blood of the Soviets that fueled the victory in Europe. Thats not revisionist but fact.
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Originally posted by Wotan
1.Target have you ever served?
2. Theres guys everyday today 18-xx who sacrifice everyday to be prepared.
3. As I said my Grandfather was there (not 1st wave) and I dont need you to tell me anything about it.
4. The fact is the its the blood of the Soviets that fueled the victory in Europe. Thats not revisionist but fact.
Let me take these one at a time:
1. Irrelevent to the thread.
2. Irrelevent to the thread.
3. Irrelevent to the thread.
4. Irrelevent to the thread.
I hope that helps.
:rolleyes:
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its not irrelevant to the thread it addresses the points in the thread.
Whether you like it or not is what is irrelevant. But you knew that.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Can't we have just one whoopee to fallen hero's without a fuggin' flame fest erupting? :mad:
SALUTE! (to the fallen and the living)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
(http://normandy.eb.com/normandy/week2/images/onormay093p1.jpg)
Thank you.
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I was just there Monday, and I salute everyone who served, has served, or will serve in any military power in the world today, no matter what country or government they're fighting for. They fight for freedom and liberation of their country, and that must be respected in it's own right, no matter WHT they're fighting for.
But I tell ya, when I was at Omaha beach, that was a very sombering experiece. I waded into the Channel to until the water was at my knees, turned and faced the shore, and almost broke. There's no greater feeling than standing where heros fell and walked, and I saluted the flags lining the monument just on the shore. That was indeed a rewarding experiece.
At the cemetary, I couldn't help myself. Even though no one in my family was killed or is at that cemetary, I found a random gravesite and saluted it. I did this for a few stone, and paid my repects at the small chapel there.
I don't get it...am I the only one of my generation that does this stuff? Am I the only American teenager who gets choked up over a strip of sand? Well, I feel as though I am. I wanted to go to Normandy on my trip for a reason...and I accomplished that goal. I saluted the fallen, paid my respects, and thanked those living.
As to the rest of you lot here turning this into a flame fest. Who gives a damn over figures or nationalities or whose dick is bigger. Rip started this thread to honor those who fell on D-Dayand during WWII, and y'all start a fight over figures. Get with it...and stop bickering. If I wanted to see fights, I woulda stood outside a pub tonight.
all verterans, fallen or not!!!
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Don't misunderstand, I am not fighting about figures. Rather, I'm in awe of the sacrifice made there, and 60 years after the fact, I feel a serious debt to the men who fought and died, who fought and lived.
A big part of what I feel is my reponsibility to those men is that I learn and know and try to understand what happened, that I not forget, and that I pass on what I've learned. That's all this is about.
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Fine words texace. With a little luck, I'll do the same in July.
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WTG Texace.......I been to almost every Military Cemetary here in Europe, It WILL open your eyes.
It's my way of saying THANKS!!!
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