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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on June 07, 2002, 09:36:54 AM
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The Oakies say no:
O K L A H O M A C I T Y, June 7 — Gov. Frank
Keating has vetoed legislation that would have authorized the
chemical and surgical castration of serious sex offenders.
Keating called the legislation "reckless and not progressive
criminal justice policy." He said it may violate the U.S.
Constitution's prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment.
"In a modern society, we don't cut off hands to punish someone
who steals a loaf of bread," Keating said.
The measure would have allowed judges or juries to order
chemical castration for persons convicted of committing first- or
second-degree rape or forcible sodomy.
"I'm sure the rapists and pedophiles are very happy with Gov.
Keating today," said Sen. Frank Shurden, the bill's author.
Keating also signed a bill requiring defendants convicted a
second time of first-degree rape, forcible sodomy, lewd molestation or sexual abuse of a child to
be sentenced to life in prison without parole.
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I find massive topic posting as a hindrance to the AH BBS as anything. They just bury discussions.
If you have a interesting topic, fine. Not that the hoopty picture post caption thing isn’t valid for a lot of folks, maybe a good vBulletin Topic addition for HTC come to think of it.
But to see you almost spam the offtopic board everyday at 6:00amPST till you get off work is a bit much.
We all have CNN, we all have TV's, some even want to know your every move after the alarm clock goes off. Some don't.
That's why they have squad discussion.
Here's a thought. Wow, your recruits, and bring the best of the Mag 33 whatever here.
Just saying.
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Nice try Creamo.
Back on topic:
I think they should castrate them.
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Since my Court-Ordered casteration I haven't felt myself.
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lmao Elfenwolf
Castration won't stop sex offenders, it'll just make them use other tools.
DmdKanth
Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Since my Court-Ordered casteration I haven't felt myself.
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Well, from what I've read about it on the web, seen on TV, etc...its not much of a preventative measure.
Now, if they threaten to do a castration in a public place, with a cannon ball, well THAT might get noticed!
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Originally posted by Creamo
I find massive topic posting as a hindrance to the AH BBS as anything. They just bury discussions.
If you have a interesting topic, fine. Not that the hoopty picture post caption thing isn’t valid for a lot of folks, maybe a good vBulletin Topic addition for HTC come to think of it.
But to see you almost spam the offtopic board everyday at 6:00amPST till you get off work is a bit much.
We all have CNN, we all have TV's, some even want to know your every move after the alarm clock goes off. Some don't.
That's why they have squad discussion.
Here's a thought. Wow, your recruits, and bring the best of the Mag 33 whatever here.
Just saying.
Sorry Creamo, but I disagree.
The entire point of the O club is to discuss anything that you want, including things that you would normaly talk about with your R.L. friends and/or family. After moving around the nation so much, I've gotten to know you BB tards almost as well as some some of my real friends. There is nothing wrong with starting discussions about current events in this forum. If you don't like it then just don't respond.
Or at least be funny in your attempt.
eskimo
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Originally posted by Creamo
I find massive topic posting as a hindrance to the AH BBS as anything. They just bury discussions.
If you have a interesting topic, fine. Not that the hoopty picture post caption thing isn’t valid for a lot of folks, maybe a good vBulletin Topic addition for HTC come to think of it.
But to see you almost spam the offtopic board everyday at 6:00amPST till you get off work is a bit much.
We all have CNN, we all have TV's, some even want to know your every move after the alarm clock goes off. Some don't.
That's why they have squad discussion.
Here's a thought. Wow, your recruits, and bring the best of the Mag 33 whatever here.
Just saying.
BBS Police?
Hey Creamo, wanna Doughnut? Coffee? :D
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BTW, I say chop em off.
eskimo
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When they are convicted put them all in the same pen, room, whatever, issue each one a straight razor, (for shaving of course) lace all food and water with viagra, and show porno films 7/24. The problem will resolve its self.
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You would know Keatings an idiot. ;)
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Feel free to disagree all you want there Esk. But if you want to disagree, usually one would counter a point, which was clearly posted, you didn’t. That being massive topic submissions by over zealous members bury a lot of discussions.
In fact, your just stating your opinion on the obvious what the Off Topic is for, and interjecting some personal info discounting nothing what I posted. Fine, and I see your point, but then you brought in comedy as a requirement? Isn't that ironic, concidering.
I “attempted” to point out that posting topics in volume can for some seem spam to other browsers.
(LePaul, please, don't start a beating down of wits, you just don't wanna)
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Ummm no amount of new topics will bury an active discussion. Everytime you post, it goes back to the top. The ones that get burried are the ones that are not being used.
My belief is that a majority of the threads in the O'Club are over by the second page, and all that is left is the insult hurling. I'd rather have fresh topics to choose from, and I'm glad that Rip will toss them up there.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by weazel
You would know Keatings an idiot. ;)
Considering the source of the poster, I'm assuming (yes I know how to spell "Assume") that he is a Republican?
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I support any punishment that increases the likelihood they will kill themselves. At least for repeat offenders.
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Originally posted by Creamo
(LePaul, please, don't start a beating down of wits, you just don't wanna)
Bring it on, Bubba!
What's got your whiney bellybutton all uptight, anyways?
Oh wait, Tyson didnt hug you at that little rally of yours? hehehe
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I say we casterate excessive thread starters.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
I say we casterate excessive thread starters.
Or trolls
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Make them all take a shower at the same time, and put all the soap bars on the floor.
Edit- Bad idea. They may enjoy that.
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Elfenwolf's just pissed because the KINGS SUCK! :D
Hell, the Kings were imitating a troll, then the Lakers showed them how to play basketball. ;)
Back on topic:
The only good thing out of this is the last paragraph:
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Keating also signed a bill requiring defendants convicted a
second time of first-degree rape, forcible sodomy, lewd molestation or sexual abuse of a child to
be sentenced to life in prison without parole.
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HELL YES !!!!!!
With a blunt rusty blade shortly before they are either shot/hung/gassed/lethally injected/electrocuted
Hell if all the damn libs in this world had some of the things victims of rapists/abusers done to them or family near to them i think most would change their stance on some of the pathetic punishments these sicko's get
Best penalty for scum like these would be the victim/s family/friends or any willing able bodied person weilding bats/chains whatever and let em lose on em til death was accomplished
And for the libs that say that's sick so what, What these do would make you puke if you ever saw the victim/s and what they had to ordeal or what they are left with to face in life
And also some may say well death just would'nt deter them well i say this from seeing several things on the subject, Some specialists say most cases that occur maybe because the person/s do it for kicks knowing mainly being caught is highly unlikely or if caught they have very little chance of a severe punishment
I would say the world would be a better place in the long run with these sicko's out of it
As you may assume i have some knowledge about sicko's as i had a girlfriend who was abused most of her childhood and a close friend that was raped by a family friend
It messed them up mentally and they still suffer from the torment
The ones attacker even bragged in court as he was sentenced that he would be out in half the time he was given
Makes me sick to think these are allowed to live let alone merely be locked up for a while
Have Fun
Def
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Or trolls
Or future lawyers.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Elfenwolf's just pissed because the KINGS SUCK! :D
Hell, the Kings were imitating a troll, then the Lakers showed them how to play basketball. ;)
Back on topic:
The only good thing out of this is the last paragraph:
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Actually as an avid Kings fan I'm embarassed by the whining and crying about the officiating in Game 6. The winner was determined in game 7, and the officiating looked fine to me. What killed the Kings was hitting only 16 of 30 from the line and not being able to stop Shaq.
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Make them all take a shower at the same time, and put all the soap bars on the floor.
Edit- Bad idea. They may enjoy that.
Why? AFAIK most sex offenders are heterosexual...
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Originally posted by LePaul
Well, from what I've read about it on the web, seen on TV, etc...its not much of a preventative measure.
Spot on, LePaul... rapists don't need testicles. It's not about sex. It's about power.
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instead of cutting it off ...
how bout we super glue it to the crack of their arse til they explode
think he'd veto that? :)
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This thread brings up an intresting question. Would we be better off as a society if all males had their testicles surgically removed at birth?
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Ahh then the human race dies in in approx 1 century ???
Have Fun
Def
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Or future lawyers.
Yeah...thanks pal...
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There is no bait here Silk-boy. And no amount of uninteresting new topics will bury a active discussion, unless, in fact what you say, they are posted to. Again, and again, by the same initial thread poster. Read this thread through, you’ll clue in. They just all happen to have that in common, do the research. And it hinders the BBS.
I like to call Ripsnore on his constant “I drive a incredible car, have thousands of engineers under me, and a perfect Republican family while I protect women from bad men” because he begs for it. Post after post, after drivel sappy, “I’m a General dig this insight post”. It just screams for someone call him on it.
Plus I said the “Caption this” would make a nice HTC vBullitin addition.
Jump on the tard wagon, but I ain’t buying it to the point I’ll actually take most of it, but not this daily 11,000 post drudgery velocity.
You can, fine.
(LePaul, don’t “hehehe” into a pissing match, makes you sound like a little girl. No sport in that)
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Yeah...thanks pal...
Oops. Just kidding. (actually have a few attorneys for brothers and cousins, BTW)
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The producers of "Fear Factor" eagerly await a decision in this matter.
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Actually that does not surprise me Elf...you seem to hold the gift of speech
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Originally posted by Creamo
I like to call Ripsnore on his constant “I drive a incredible car, have thousands of engineers under me, and a perfect Republican family while I protect women from bad men” because he begs for it. Post after post, after drivel sappy, “I’m a General dig this insight post”. It just screams for someone call him on it.
Yeah, that's some fine detective work you did there Cream. Over the past two pages worth of O'Club post Ripsnort has started 7 of them, out of 50. Yep, he burried some real gems with those 7 I bet. And it was very cool how he bragged about his life and worth by making jokes about Ca drivers, Teen sex, and the Racial differences between the British. Then, he selfishly posted a to those who fought on D-Day! Who can forget how he flaunted his employment position by asking how long we've gone without playin AH :rolleyes:
I don't agree with a lot of what Ripsnort believes. Nor do most of the people who post in here share my beliefs. Hell, even my best in-game friends have political agendas that are far different from mine. I couldn't care less.
-Sikboy
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Creamo,
My point is that you are much better at being funny than you are at making a point, so stick to what you do well.
It really doesn't make sense that you're getting into a hissy-fit over some BB Spam. You've already wasted more of your own time reading and responding to this thread than you would have had you just skimmed over the title, topic starter, and moved on. You do realize that you do not have to read all threads on the BB... right?
Rip's a BB posting junkie who spends 2/3 of his work time surfing, it's more than obvious to all. So what?
eskimo
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How do you think discussions start in the first place?
DmdKanth
Originally posted by Creamo
I find massive topic posting as a hindrance to the AH BBS as anything. They just bury discussions.
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Gosh guys (sniff) I don't know what to say...I'd like to thank the sponsors of this board, my mom, my dad for allowing me this moment in history when I really did get under Creamo's Skin. I'll take this "BBS SPAMMING" Award and display it on my mantle at home with pride!
And thank you all! (Roar and clapping from the crowd, except one lonely, ugly dweeb dressed in a sloppy red clown suit with "Creamo" on the name tag thats fevorishly typing away on a laptop... posting on a BBS about playing with rockets in his pocket)
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WTF... I make one bad joke and Ripsnort and several of his posse squelched me, yet Creamo rips him and doesn't get squelched??? What a crock of BS!! You guys all suck!! This isn't fair!! I DEMAND Creamo get squelched!!
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The only real problem I have with surgical castration is that it is not reversable shoulf the individule later prove to have been innocent. That does happen in our justice system on occasion, as I'm sure you've noticed.
Also, not all sex offences are on the same level of reprehensiveness. Child molesters and rapists are the lowest scum there are, but an 18 year old who has sex with his 17 year old girlfriend hardly deserves to be castrated, although he would now be an official sex offender.
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Well, as the father of a seventeen year old girl, I feel casteration is an appropiate punishment for 18 year old boys who sleep with 17 year old girls.
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Awww, c'mon.
We all know Rip is a bloated, self congratulatory bag of wind. But dammit, He's OUR bloated self congratulatory bag of wind!!
Post away brother!
:)
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Originally posted by Karnak
The only real problem I have with surgical castration is that it is not reversable shoulf the individule later prove to have been innocent. That does happen in our justice system on occasion, as I'm sure you've noticed.
Key word was : "High level, repeat offenders" which in laymens terms means "He's been convicted before for high level offences, caught again, and convicted again, by a jury of his peers"
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Awww, c'mon.
We all know Rip is a bloated, self congratulatory bag of wind. But dammit, He's OUR bloated self congratulatory bag of wind!!
Post away brother!
:)
Hehe, when you come from the gutter with a $100 and the clothes your wearing on your back 1700 miles away from "home", you tend to boast alittle, modesty is not my best asset but I'm working on it!
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Wow. Me detects a new, subliminal theme in this Creamo vs Ripsnort thread: ENVY
:p
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Its the Beamer I tell you...the BMW
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nah, it's a front
Rip & Creamo are gettin hitched in San Fran next weekend
Sorry Rip, couldn't keep the secret :)
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Eagler: If thats the case, than I'd be the pitcher, he'd be the catcher.
Horty: Its Bimmer...a Beamer is a BMW motorcycle (true!) Weird huh?
Have a nice week end all, Ripsnorts outta here>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Gosh guys (sniff) I don't know what to say...I'd like to thank the sponsors of this board, my mom, my dad for allowing me this moment in history when I really did get under Creamo's Skin. I'll take this "BBS SPAMMING" Award and display it on my mantle at home with pride!
And thank you all! (Roar and clapping from the crowd, except one lonely, ugly dweeb dressed in a sloppy red clown suit with "Creamo" on the name tag thats fevorishly typing away on a laptop... posting on a BBS about playing with rockets in his pocket)
ROTFLMAO!!!
Getting under Spermo's skin really is an accomplishment!
Hoopty-whoopty-way-to-go pal! (tryin to pull the sarcastic slack for losing-his-edge-creamo?)
:)
eskimo
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Originally posted by LePaul
BBS Police?
Hey Creamo, wanna Doughnut? Coffee? :D
Donut?!?!?!!?!? Where?!?!?! I want it!!!!!! Oh wait, that was just a cruel trick there LePaul!!!! :(
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Ripsnort,
I have to admit that I did not read the thread, merely replied to the title. That said, I am still uncomfortable with irreversable punishments on the principle that mistakes do happen, even repeatedly. It is, however, unlikely that any innocents would have been "neutered" had this passed.
Out of curiosity, does anybody have any info on how effective castration is on stopping sex offenders from molesting and raping?
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Originally posted by Karnak
Ripsnort,
Out of curiosity, does anybody have any info on how effective castration is on stopping sex offenders from molesting and raping?
No. But I'm all for gathering the info!
eskimo
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For first-time offenders I would say no. A little jail time may be all they need to see the error of their ways.
Repeat offenders are a different matter altogether. As my brother-in-law used to say, "Nail it to a stump, douse it in gasoline, set it alight, and hand him a rusty razor blade to cut it off!"
I'm more concerned about protecting our young children and daughters than I am about some sexual predator's "rights!"
Regards, Shuckins
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Shuckins,
I'm not terrible concerned with the sex offender's rights, rather I'm concerned with the rights of the guy accused and convicted of being a sex offender who later is proven to have been innocent.
All things being equal, I'm against granting more power to the .gov unless there is a very, very good reason.
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Karnak,
Point taken. But please note that I was referring to repeat offenders. If DNA evidence can be used to prove their guilt I do not see that there is a problem.
Besides, I believe that chemical castration can be reversed. Not really sure about that. Does anyone know for certain?
Regards, Shuckins
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Originally posted by easymo
"This thread brings up an interesting question. Would we be better off as a society if all males had their testicles surgically removed at birth?"
Ah! Elfensquirrel is a lesbian. Now it all makes sense.
On topic. Hang um. Thats what ropes are for.
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This would be an exercise in futility.
A psychiatrist would tell you that to cut off the sexual drive of an individual, you'd need to perform the castration before the man enters puberty. After that, the sexual drive cannot be said to be the sole result of a couple of nuts. There is an intricate little chemical play in the man's body, and the brain responds to this.
Since sexual offenders usually aren't just interested in getting off (in which case masturbation or potatos would suffice), they'd be likely to continue whatever they did before, but in different manners. If they're turned impotent, their desires and frustrations would still be taken out on victims.
If there was some kind of purpose behind this punishment, I would be behind it. But the science behind the effects seem to show that it has little effect on the future behavior of the offenders - *unless* the offenders themselves request the castration, as has been the case in Denmark and Sweden.
'Chop it off' is my immediate reaction. in fact, the 0older I get, the more violent and aggressive my immediate reactions are getting. I'm becoming more and more intolerant. Must be some diddlyed up toejame in my childhood :D. Anyway, despite the first reaction, which IMHO is fully understandable, I think it's a good idea to determine the effects of an act before carrying it out.
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Labotomy would get better results than castration.
Then he/she could go back out into the world and contribute.
DmdKanth