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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Hangtime on December 19, 2001, 11:11:00 PM
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Did Cit disco?
;)
Congrats Nimitz! <S!>
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nope
but i hope i do next wed
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Next week?
Why, whatever for??
:D
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Cit got ganged *finally*. Everyone finally ganged the bastige :D He had a trail of 5 pilots behind him at one point :D
Nim
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thats normal to have 5 people chasing me
what isnt normal is to have 2 people (one loitering out of icon range) waiting for the other to drag me low and into a turnfight.
i can deal with unplanned gangbangs in WW, thats part of the fun. dealing with coordinated wingman attacks is against the rules and not fun.
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Fester, since you continue to be a hypocrite, lets get one thing straight. Did curly and I work together to kill you, yes. Why? Because last week, he was on your 6, and you called ManeTMP in so that he would clear curly off your 6. Mane told us, so dont go around saying you didnt do it.
What goes around comes around, stop being a whining weenie and just get your revenge next week when you rally all your friends to gang me and curly. We will enjoy it, and probably learn something ni the process. We appreciate this for what it is, a wonderful game.
See you soon :)
Nim
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funny
i seem to remember killing you then having curly jump me from above last week too.
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btw I dont need revenge. I am not going to gangbang you two either.
contrary to what you think i dont mind getting shot down. I didnt mind it the first frame after getting 6 kills when wail nailed me headon when i had no e. it was a good kill and he deserved the win.
I didnt mind in the third frame when roper lit me up from very long range. after i killed him the first two rounds he stuck to me like glue and it payed off.
what i did mind was aknimitz and akcurly coordinating their attacks against me during every frame pretending they were not breaking the rules.
like it or not ive never used a wingman in ww. mane killed curly because curly was in his gunsight. mane tried to kill me next and i killed him next. its that simple. nothing was planned. no communications or coordinations were made.
i need all my fingers and toes to count the number of times curly and nimitz have gloated in the open with phrases like : "dont shoot at my dad" and "dad and son are alowd to wing" etc. cut the crap and cut the winging.
go play the wingman game in the MA where it belongs. Wild Wednesday is supposed to be an escape from such tactics
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
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Think it's time that WW was no icons event :)
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Originally posted by Citabria:
funny
i seem to remember killing you then having curly jump me from above last week too.
Nope, didn't happen cit, unless by accident. Before tonight, we specifically avoided flying with each other. I just thought you might enjoy a taste of your own medicine. :)
Dude, there's no way I'm going to best you unless you do something dumb -- and you almost never do. :) However, when we were flying Mossies, yep, you did something dumb and stalled beneath me. When I dove on you, why there was old ManeTMP right on my six. :) You, I and Mane all know how he got there. What goes around, comes around.
Cit, you are so good, you're going to win 75% of the time anyway. Why do you go to ridiculous lengths to win everytime?
I mean attempting to obscure Nimitz's view with "join attempts" after you got shot down, man, that's grade school stuff.
Tell ya what, Cit. You knock off the funny stuff with wingmen and we won't hunt your sorry butt. How's that for a bargain?
AKcurly
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you two keep winging and you will be hunted.
you may not realize it but im not the only one who has noticed your wingman tactics.
Originally posted by AKcurly:
Nope, didn't happen cit, unless by accident. Before tonight, we specifically avoided flying with each other. I just thought you might enjoy a taste of your own medicine. :)
Dude, there's no way I'm going to best you unless you do something dumb -- and you almost never do. :) However, when we were flying Mossies, yep, you did something dumb and stalled beneath me. When I dove on you, why there was old ManeTMP right on my six. :) You, I and Mane all know how he got there. What goes around, comes around.
Cit, you are so good, you're going to win 75% of the time anyway. Why do you go to ridiculous lengths to win everytime?
I mean attempting to obscure Nimitz's view with "join attempts" after you got shot down, man, that's grade school stuff.
Tell ya what, Cit. You knock off the funny stuff with wingmen and we won't hunt your sorry butt. How's that for a bargain?
AKcurly
what is interesting to me is how i ended up below you last week with no speed no alt and no e. fact is I was fighting aknimitz below you. I killed him as you bounced me. I didnt ask mane to help me. if you review the film you will see that we were the only dots in the area and curly was in a position to be shot by mane, I was not. i was in a position to be shot by curly. mane wasted no time after killing curly to start dogfighting me.
the difference in your attacks is one of you is always in a position to be shot by the other. yet neither fires.
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
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Originally posted by Citabria:
I see you two winging again and you will be hunted
Before tonight, you never saw it. But you on the other hand have repeatedly done it. Mane specifically told me that you called him in on my six when I had you stalled beneath me. Your other wingman have told on you as well, Cit. Jig's up. :)
AKcurly
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slander me all you want i dont give a crap.
but do not be doing this wingman crap in wild wednesday again
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Grow up will ya.
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my squeaking sessions over. talk amongst yourselves
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FDski,
Is that possible? I think its a GREAT idea.
Nim
Oh and Fest, if you didnt mind when roper killed you, why did you call him a dick on channel 1? Oh I know!!
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: aknimitz ]
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Rude, where are ya? We got a live one here.
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lol
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Originally posted by Citabria:
btw I dont need revenge. I am not going to gangbang you two either.
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
im sure you will not gang bang them.
because 1 pilot cant gang bang 2 :D
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Well, WW got smurfy in a hurry, didn't it? :rolleyes:
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Well gentlemen obviously we have a small problem. Last week Fester apparently winged with ManeTMP.
This week obviously Nim and Curly got together to give fester some of his medicine.
I was not there for either incident BUT y'all better cool yer tempers.
WW is a fun event for those who participate and this roadkill will not be tolerated. If you can't play nice I'll personally eject you from the event so the rest can enjoy themselves. If you show up next week do so with the attitude to have fun and enjoy the challenge.
Nimitz. You and a few others may like no icons, but for the average player they like/need them. Turning them off may not be a good idea at this point as the numbers may drop. If you want start your own thread and see what players think.
Have a nice day.....
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Heya skernsk,
I have an idea...it might help solve an inevitable dilema. If there are more than 1 member from a squad, have them take off from separate fields. It is only natural if I see curly and another plane engaged, which I will kill first. Solve that problem for all squaddies (mane and fester/357th, assassins, everyone) by having them up at different fields. You wouldnt have to regulate it, just ask squaddies to do it. Clearly if there are more than 3 AK's, 2 will have to up at the same field. But rarely are there 3 members from the same squad. I assure you I will head in a diff direction that my squaddies, thats what I call self-regulation :D
Nim
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Wont work Nim, they'd just meet in the middle.
I think FDski's idea of no icons is much better......but only if the .wingman command doesnt work with no icons.......would have to be no radar as well? If so then a much smaller arena would be in order or people will never find each other.
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So this is the "pure furball, every man for himself" arena that everyone keeps telling me I should get all warm and fuzzy about???
So... If I team up with drex and at the end he augers for me then.... I won? Not much of a victory.
So what's wrong with my idea of a time limit with the winner being the survivor with the most kills?
lazs
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I don't know the answer Nim. We can't stop people from winging up. If you see two people close together NOT shooting each other are they winging? Or just feeling each other out.
What I don't want to see is an event that people participate in for fun be turned into a mudslinging contest. The #1 reason for participating in this thing is for players to furball and enjoy themselves. Those who are there to win at all costs can do so, but do so within the spirit of the event.
And if you get beat better luck next time.
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Originally posted by lazs1:
So this is the "pure furball, every man for himself" arena that everyone keeps telling me I should get all warm and fuzzy about???
So... If I team up with drex and at the end he augers for me then.... I won? Not much of a victory.
So what's wrong with my idea of a time limit with the winner being the survivor with the most kills?
lazs
Good Morning Eeyore! ;)
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[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Ripsnort ]
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I don't fly WW because winging isn't within the spirit of the event. There's no way I'm shooting at a Mongrel if there's another target to shoot at. It's not fair to the other participants, so I don't attend. Those who feel similar, should do the same, IMO.
Since you're working on the honor system anyways, why not ask everyone to fly in plane only icon mode with squad highlighting and wingman highlighting off. It'd be nice if you could force those settings in the arena tables, but I know the CMs can't. Anyways, I think if everyone flew with that icon setup, it'd remove the planned wingman problems.
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Originally posted by aknimitz:
I assure you I will head in a diff direction that my squaddies, thats what I call self-regulation :D
Nim
Self-regulation? That's what I call self-preservation! :D
SOB
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I got tag-teamed, didn't think anything of it. I figured, like Nifty, it was an inevitability of the event and accepted it as such. I saw people run for alt, accepted that too (until a stray comment was made).
You either play it for fun or you don't play at all. Trying to glean a deeper meaning from it only causes you to point at the way people play and criticize. Far better to say, "I won!" or, "I lost!" and just enjoy swapping stories. Any other than that is against the spirit of the event IMHO.
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Amen Kieren.
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Easy to prove you weren't "winging". Post your own film.
Originally posted by Citabria:
you two keep winging and you will be hunted.
you may not realize it but im not the only one who has noticed your wingman tactics.
what is interesting to me is how i ended up below you last week with no speed no alt and no e. fact is I was fighting aknimitz below you. I killed him as you bounced me. I didnt ask mane to help me. if you review the film you will see that we were the only dots in the area and curly was in a position to be shot by mane, I was not. i was in a position to be shot by curly. mane wasted no time after killing curly to start dogfighting me.
the difference in your attacks is one of you is always in a position to be shot by the other. yet neither fires.
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
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Just realized some may use RW. That of course would by itself imply "winging".
This is one reason I don't like honor based rules. Everyone that's competitive (and we all are in this game) is looking for an edge. Interpretations of the rules often lead to hard feelings.
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Lazs I'll wing with you. Haven't flown in this thing yet. Sounds like fun with all the bantering going on. :)
Drex
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I winged with Argyll a couple of WWs back. We happened to end up chasing Fester as a matter of fact, and as we were inching our way toward him Argyll shot my bellybutton down! He says it was an accident...likely story. Never trust an FDB on your own or your sheep's 6!
SOB
PS...Git yer bellybutton in there next week Drex. I need another good pilot I can chase around the arena and end up getting killed by!
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I swear that these threads are concocted by a Springer sitcom writer or some man behind the HTC curtain just to provide my morning entertainment.
(Some green smoke after the tears would be a nice effect.)
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Seems to me the logical thing to do would be to try a wingman WW.
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lol SOB
I will have to say all this bantering makes me want to come play :)
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The direct result of a free-for-all with unenforcable "rules".
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I'm going to have to show up for one of these jewels. :)
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Originally posted by AKIron:
[QB]Just realized some may use RW. That of course would by itself imply "winging".
QB]
not quite...you should hear the assassins RW in this event. it is mostly "cmere feker!" or "I owe you" things of that nature. nothing like "get this amazinhunk off my 6" or anything like that.
i myself did notice that nimitz and curly were winging. i dont have a film and i cant prove it. thats why im not as vocal about it as fester. but i find it kind of od that as soon as its just me and nimitz around that when i engage nimitz curly comes out of nowhere and kills me. fester saw it, he was in my plane, i saw what happened to fester when it did...i was in his plane. but for the simple fact that i dont have any film is what kept me quiet.
that is all
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Curly/Nimitz killed me, too. So? If it had been Mighty1 and me, we would have done the same thing. It isn't that big a deal IMHO.
See, Nimitz and Curly have admitted it. Have we heard a similar confession from others? Not many. I guess we can all close our eyes and pretend there isn't an elephant standing in the room, but it's there nonetheless. Who cares? Admit it, open it to teams. Save yourselves the heartache.
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Actually Kieren, I have suggested that there be something along the lines of "Teaming Tuesday" for this type of 2v2 event. But this all goes back to the inevetible problem.
Pimpjoe, I can *ASSURE* you there was NO winging with respect to you. What round are you talking about? I have film from all three rounds and have watched them ... I guess I missed the part where curly bounced you just as you engaged me. Sincerely, the ONLY goal curly and I had this WW was to make sure Fester died for his BS antics last week when he winged with Mane. Dont believe me that he winged with Mane? I know MANY pilots that Fester has asked to wing with BEFORE the events starts. Out of respect to those pilots, I will not give their names.
PJ, the Assassins and AK's are two very different squads with some very different members. First of all, there is a big skill difference between a lot of the members in my squad with regarding to ACM. What pleasure would I get shooting one of the less-advanced pilots down? The Assassins, seem for the most part, to all be kinda in the same league. Zig and hb seem to certainly be the best, but there are a LOT of very good and competitive sticks that have been around much longer than many of the AK's. There is no need to get into here, but I will say the AK's to no pride in shooting each other down. That is why curly and I usually take off at different fields OR go in different directions. It would be impossible for us not to try to save each other and avoid engaging one another. We just choose not to put ourselves in that situation. We did this time for some retribution.
But I have to admit, I'm with Kieren on this one. It is impossible to do away with some of this stuff. This is KING OF THE HILL - kill or be killed. I had this idea of not engaging ANYONE if they were already engaged when this thing started. After all, I thought it only fair 1v1, best pilot wins, and moves on. This VERY quickly backfired. In fact, if I remember correctly it was 2 assassins that took care of me. I was engaged with one and another got me. Was I pissed? Yes, but not because of your tactics. Because I chose not to engage, or cherry pick" other pilots. That changed then and there.
Its a game, enjoy it.
Nim
PS
PJ, I find that somewhat interesting. You were in Festers plane? He in yours? During these ridealongs, were you guys giving each other 6 calls? Or just looking straight ahead? Perhaps taht would explain why I was getting join requests from Fester as I was killing you?
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: aknimitz ]
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BRING IT ON DREX!
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ok drex.. i promise not to kill ya till everyone else is dead..
"I like you... I kill you last"
lazs
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Arnold Schwartzenegger, Commando.
As far as the join requests are concerned, totally juvenile.
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Time for me to toss my jewel in here..
A few WWs ago, it ended up being F5Bomber, Fester, and I left.
No offense to F5, but he's the reason I've been petitioning for an alt cap since the little monkey somehow finds a way to climb higher then anyone else.
So, Fester happened to be in the Assassins squad in the SEA still, and so I asked him on RW and squad chan if we could team up on the alt monkey so that we could have a fair fight.
I heard an agreement. I swear I did.
Then as soon as I started climbing up to F5... boom. My bellybutton gets shot off.
:)
Just shows there are no rules.
HB, I think you've already tried WW. If I remember right, I shot you down? :p
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What is the "inevitable problem"? :confused:
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Originally posted by Kieran:
What is the "inevitable problem"? :confused:
That no matter how perfect or fool proof the rules are, someone will manage to take things way to seriously and start with the crying.
SOB
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An event where wingmen are illegal? I shall continue to ignore it. :)
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Ah, SOB, I should have seen the obvious. Thanks for the clarification.
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Originally posted by fd ski:
Think it's time that WW was no icons event :)
I like this idea!!!
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All I saw in WW was Cit whining and cussing about being shot down and throwing tantrums (sending multiple join requests in two rounds after being shot down) and ...... a lot of others having fun and sending <S>'s to each other.
Nim and Curly ganged Fester, heck there were at least 5 guys chasing him and not shooting each other. Why single Nim and Curly out? They didn't try to gang anyone else as far as I could see.
I personally think Fester should have been booted for his tantrum and cussing, good to see it is still continuing here... ;)
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ROFL!
Teams or not, wingies or not, 'join' requests, the whines (nothin better than a fine whine, btw) the 'rules', no 'rules'.. supposed wingies goin cannibal despite a 'working agreement'.. well; all of that is part of the spirit of Wild Wednesdays.
It's a buncha guys goin FFA with no fediddlein remorse, no mercy, no fidelity and no clue as to whats gonna happen next.
Thats why it's fun.
Note: Nimitz, any time I get an unsolicited join request I accept. It stops the guy from askin again, and when it happens in the MA I try and fly as boring and long and unentertaining a flight as I possibly can. They never do it again. :)
Note To CM's.. can you turn the .join feature off?
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Hang,
Believe me, I tried that. Fester would send join request, I would accept. He would logg, and come back in, send it again, blah blah blah ad infnitum.
Nim
BTW I TOTALLY agree with everything you said in your post Hang...thats what makes Wild Wed so fun. Fester is the not the only to have been ganged upto this point, or winged against, and so far he is the only one to whine.
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: aknimitz ]
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baa! Akn1kmitz ;) :D
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Larry larry larry, many have said the samething. They are no longer with us <sniff>
Lazs, remember you have to drag them all until the end. If your still alive by then, im straight and level for ya :)
Drex
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i appologize if that came out wrong. it dont really bother me. just thought i would add what i saw. to ME thats what it looked like. if you guys say you were not wingin...thats good enough for me. i dont see any reason to lie.
as for me riding in fester's plane...fester is about 20 times better than me. i ride with fester every chance i get. and learn something every time i do. as for him riding in my plane...im not possitive why he wanted to except for the fact that he wanted a ride. there were no 6 calls givin to either of us. i was paying more attension to what he was doing and how he did it to be looking at his 6. and i assure you fester was not giving me 6 calls.
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DREX YOUR GOIN' DOWN! YOU WILL BE HUNTED BY THE INFAMOUS AKCURLY/AKNIMITZ DUO!
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so drex... ya think people would actualy want to shoot me down? sounds like a cruel place.
lazs
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Laz, I consider shooting Eeyore down a sin!
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who is eyore?
lazs
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ohhh welll...
you'll all just shoot me down anyway....
May as well auger....