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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: cajun on June 09, 2002, 02:52:23 PM
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As Swoop suggested, Could we please have the option of only subscribing for 1 or 2 arenas for like $7.50? $15 seems allot and I'm prolly not gonna use all the arenas any way, how about $7.50 for SEA or CT, $10 for both and 15$ for everything as it is now?
I think it would benifit HTC cuz there are allotta ppl that won't pay 15$ for all arenas but would pay $7.50 for just SEA or CT, this would not only get more players but would fill the CT and SEA up.
[This post has been edited cuz people have not been bothering to read the rest of the posts]
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I like the idea, why let a wonderful room with wonderful maps not get used to its full potential. If we let H2Hers play in it it will get used way more, and maybe more and more people will want to use it also.
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I think that if the H2H'rs want to play in the CT, they should fork over the $15/mo like the rest of us.
AKDejaVu
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I think that having more people in the CT (H2H'rs) would help promote it. I'm sure that the CT people would sure want to have more people than just about 15 people in it at one time.
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But noone plays in the CT, So if you lower the max players to like 75 or so then players would still want to signe up for MA,Scenarios and special events, but the CT would not go to waste.
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well, the odd person here and there have been asking for an SEA only account for years.......and I still say if HTC offered price options for just 1 arena at a time I could get more cheapskate scotsmen in here who wont pay $15 a month.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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Since I fly CT only, how about they let you H2H'rs use MA, for free.
:p
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No, they should pay the 50 cents a day to enter.
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Lowe this would benifit you cuz more ppl would play and u could play for free :)
But I also like the 1 arena thing, where you only pay like 3-5$ a month for just 1 arena no events? (1 arena being CT maybe?)
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Originally posted by Swoop
well, the odd person here and there have been asking for an SEA only account for years.......and I still say if HTC offered price options for just 1 arena at a time I could get more cheapskate scotsmen in here who wont pay $15 a month.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
I like that idea, Swoop
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as much as I would love to see it, it isnt fair on the people who pay the money but choose not to use it, I havnt got a subsciption but if you want to use the CT then pay! its thge sacrifice you have for not getting a subscripsion
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Now that I think about it is sort of unfair for the payers. But Swoop's idea is fair and even better for the payers also. If they never fly in certain arenas why should they be paying for them?
again Swoop!
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Maybe we should restart the thread and use Swoops idea?
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CT for Free??? not a chance...
9.99 a month lettem fly CT (20 hrs a month) and SEA events
SKurj
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Some people need to answer this question:
What would this do to the CT?
You really want to take a crowd that is accustomed to upping from the same base and shooting each other and throw them into a free arena and have that arena be the CT?
I find that laughable.
I also find the idea of using HTC's servers for free to be somewhat laughable. Get an account and play wherever the hell you want.
AKDejaVu
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HTC, yes, please giveaway your product. We don't want to pay to play your fantastic game. If it were free, just imagine how many people you would have online.
You may have to get some loans, mortgage your homes, and sell blood to pay for all that bandwidth, but you won't mind, cause think of all the players you would have!!!!
tard of the week, maybe?
F.
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Originally posted by cajun
Lowe this would benifit you cuz more ppl would play and u could play for free :)
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Cajun.
My comments were meant in fun. I don't care who they let where, or for how much as long as it's fair. One thing I do have a problem with is that making CT a Free Arena, will also be letting kids in, who don't care about flying as much as harrassing the people in the arena. As it stands now usually CT is a great experiance if you can stand the fact that you may fly a while before you fight on a slow night. Send in a few kids who are playing for free, and the next thing you know the text buffer is going to be full of trash talk, taunts, and the chest beating about how great they are. To be honest, I like every person thats a regular in CT. They not only fly well, they act like adults, sure we'll get the occasional guy in there who will raise hell with the rest of the arena, but it's pretty rare. I don't want to play with a bunch of 12 year olds. I have this hobby to get a little time away from the kids, not take lip off a bunch of little wild animals that don't care how they act.
Sorry bud if it wasnt for that I'd think it would be a good idea.
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Oooo... Ooooo... a better idea....
How about if a country in the MA is grossly outnumbered, we let the H2Hrs fight for that country for free. That should help even out the numbers and make everything all better.
Been many a time when my country was down to two bases and I've thought to myself... "If only we had some of the H2H guys here to help us out."
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Kevin14
Now that I think about it is sort of unfair for the payers. But Swoop's idea is fair and even better for the payers also. If they never fly in certain arenas why should they be paying for them? again Swoop!
How is this idea? I agree that the original one was quite unfair, but how about making people pay for only the arenas they want to fly in?
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Ok forget the Free CT but how about CT only for like $7.50 per month?
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CT only for $7.50
SEA only for $7.50
CT & SEA for $10
CT, SEA & DA (for tournies, etc) for $12
All arena's $15
(MA & TA only included on $15 subscription to prevent 100+ players downgrading their subscription on day one cos they only fly in MA. DA only on $12 subscription to prevent it being used as another MA by the real cheapskates)
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If ya can't afford $15 a month... how can ya afford $7.50?
most kids do better than $15 for weekly allowance...
buy one less 6 pack a month
buy two less packs of smokes
rent two fewer movies
go to a matinee or tuesday cheap night to see a movie stead of fri night
buy no-name stead of name brand
if its a case of you can't talk your parents into lettin u use their credit card for $15 a month, but might be able to for less than $10... use money orders.. and ta hell with the folks +)
SKurj
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It's not about "affording it".
It's more of an initial "How much?!?!?!!" kind of reaction. And then ya get the complaints about no realistic countries and planesets.......but with the above pricing scheme I could retort with the line "Well, a realistic arena is actually cheaper.....".
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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yeah, why not enable MA and TOD for H2Hers too. :rolleyes:
$15/mo is a bargain folks. Like somebody else said, 50 cents/day.
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It is about affording it Swoop.
These guys who had this 'idea' can't afford the subscription...
or are not allowed +)
SKurj
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I like Swoops set up:
$7.50 for CT or SEA
10$for both,
And 12$ CT,SEA and DA (though when you get to 12$ you might as well do the 15$)
It's not that we can't afford it, just why pay for an arena you don't wanna fly in?
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cajun yes it is about you somehow are unable to pay to play.
if u could pay, then you already would be, and probably would be reacting similar to some of the others posting in this thread +)
SKurj
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Now THIS is the best solution:
Most players aren't online a lot (1 or 2 hours average per day). Those are not enough to fill the MA. But they enjoy flying in a crowded MA.
Free accounts for all players with 8 hours or more online time per day ;)
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AH is already one of the cheapest online sims and IMHO gives the best bang for buck out of all of them, if you want to play in the large arena's then stump up the cash...HTC are hardly charging a fortune for this.
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well,,,i play h2h alot,,,,,and we are all lucky that aces high lets us have that,,lol,,,but its a good way to get people to play main some day,,,i plan to play main arena soon again,,and dish out the 15 bucks,,,and i think the ct idea is a little before its time,,lol,,i could see,,charging cheaper prices for it,,but not free,,it will make alot of people upset that they are paying when they could fly for free and still have lots of players,,,lol,,,aces high would have a big drop in main arena players,,,,{but dont get me wrong} ,,like everyone else that flys this game,,we all wish it was free,,lol,,,but that aint going to happen any time soon
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no. they want to play with the latest toys and big boys, then they should pay to play - just like the rest of us.
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How about dollar cost averaging? Or whatever you economic geeks call it.
Every arena costs HTC essentially the same and they're entitled to add a decent profit.
So take that number and divide it up amongst the users.
So, the MA, with nearly 500 customers a night would be pretty cheap. Maybe the H2H guys could afford it even. It's the Arena of the Great Unwashed, where none can even spell "Chivalry" and chute shooting is considered great sport. It ought to be cheap for such easily entertained cretins.. like myself. Think of it as "Bread and Circuses" to keep the unruly lowlife like myself entertained. (And out of arenas suited for more proper gentlefolk.)
The TA, with 20-40 users would be considerably more expensive. Think of it as getting a college education or something. You got to pay to learn.
The CT with 10-20 nightly users would be much more expensive yet, of course. But hey, that A V A planeset, the reduced dar and icon settings are where the "leet meet to greet" and it's probably worth it to those that can appreciate such things.
The DA....... prohibitively expensive. But if you're going out on Main Street at High Noon to settle an old score in blood... well, it's probably worth it. Especially if you film your triumph to send to all your friends. If some AH Ace is going in there with ya to show you "the Move"... it's probably worth it too.
So, what do yas think?
:D
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I get paid $6 a week for allowance, and I'm 12, so I can't get a job. Thats why I agree with Swoops idea, dont' get me wrong, if I had the money to play with I would pay the $15 a month, but I don't. I agree HTC has to make a living and also is not charging a fortune, indeed it is a bargain, but for a 12 year-old it is a pretty steep price, but then again HTC probably didn't make this game for little kids, instead for adults who's $15 is worth about one hour of work, but for kids $15 is 2 1/2 weeks of work. And also, try not to just read the last reply instead of the whole thing, because threads tend to get hijacked that way,
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A limited arena for the h2h players would be cool (such as battle of britain) with a limited plane set at a reduced cost. But as for access to all main arena's they should have to pay ( i wouldnt mind if the sub price went down a few bucks) .but if u let them in for free ... the riff raff will show up . as in Fighter ace 2 in the free rooms it was all punk kids changing name tags every 1/2 hour to avoid the moderators with swearing , personal attacks, just ruining your game play with there kamakazi antics ect.
having to pay to play keeps the riff raff out and a more user freindly enviroment .
AS an example just look what was going on recentally in the TA with the vulching squadron, guys on there two week trial joining and just making chaos on the rest of the newbies/anyone else trying to learn this game . Isnt it hard enough with out getting vulched ??
Also another point is after there trial is up these guys take there punk vulching/swearing antics to the H2H rooms , and they like to ruin any and all hosts games. they think that because you have a room open they can enter and do what ever they want .and then get mad and attack the host all over this BB for getting tossed out.
Its only fair if you want to play with the big dogs you have to pay.
A bigger H2H room option ( more players) and a BoB room would be nice at reduced cost it would collect 100- 200+ more paying players I bet ... Just my opinion here It may not mean a thing :D
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
...A bigger H2H room option ( more players) ...
That is always what I have wanted, rooms able to hold more players Roscoroo
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
A limited arena for the h2h players would be cool (such as battle of britain) with a limited plane set at a reduced cost. But as for access to all main arena's they should have to pay ( i wouldnt mind if the sub price went down a few bucks) .but if u let them in for free ... the riff raff will show up . as in Fighter ace 2 in the free rooms it was all punk kids changing name tags every 1/2 hour to avoid the moderators with swearing , personal attacks, just ruining your game play with there kamakazi antics ect.
having to pay to play keeps the riff raff out and a more user freindly enviroment .
AS an example just look what was going on recentally in the TA with the vulching squadron, guys on there two week trial joining and just making chaos on the rest of the newbies/anyone else trying to learn this game . Isnt it hard enough with out getting vulched ??
Also another point is after there trial is up these guys take there punk vulching/swearing antics to the H2H rooms , and they like to ruin any and all hosts games. they think that because you have a room open they can enter and do what ever they want .and then get mad and attack the host all over this BB for getting tossed out.
Its only fair if you want to play with the big dogs you have to pay.
A bigger H2H room option ( more players) and a BoB room would be nice at reduced cost it would collect 100- 200+ more paying players I bet ... Just my opinion here It may not mean a thing :D
Actuelly I find the H2H a very "sporting" kind of place cuz if you vulch, taunt whatever trying to ruin the game host just typs .eject player and problem solved :)
And yes I like roscos reply, maybe we could have like a 35-50 player max room that would be like a small CT? for like 3-5$ a month?
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one other thing to consider....
bandwidth costs money... more bandwidth needed = higher cost
The 'free' arena would cost HTC money...
do those of us paying want to pay for the bandwidth needed for the 'free' arena?
SKurj
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Hi, This is really directed towards Kevin14,
Now don't get me wrong, when you only make 6 bucks a week, yeah 15 dollars a month is pretty steep, But... I recal vividly being 12. I wanted a Moped (anyone remember those?) Asked my parents if I could have one. "Sure, they said...." but coming up with the funds was another matter. If I wanted one, I had to buy it. I spent alot of time that summer, MOWING LAWNS.... That's something a 12 year old can do. Schools out, you got some time, Might have enough left over to get yourself a stick... Or buy a nice young girl a pizza and a movie. There are all kinds of things a 12 year old can do to make some money. Some of the local grocery stores let kids carry your bags to the car for tips. Get imagineative (much like my spelling) and wing in the main.
Mudshark
OH... Bring the Gloster Gladiator to Aces High
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Originally posted by SKurj
one other thing to consider....
bandwidth costs money... more bandwidth needed = higher cost
The 'free' arena would cost HTC money...
do those of us paying want to pay for the bandwidth needed for the 'free' arena?
SKurj
Well that brings us back to the "subscribe for only 1 arena"
I still don't see what is so unacceptable about subscribing to only 1 or 2 arenas for a cheaper price? I know allotta people who won't pay 15$ for a bunch of arenas but like me would pay 7-10$ for just 1-2 arenas.
I'm 14, and kinda in the same position as Kevin14... 15$ doesnt grow on trees and I have to work for most of the money I get, 15$ a month is allot to me, I'd pay 7$ for 1 arena or SEA events but 15$ is allot.
Being able to choose the arenas you want to play&pay for would in the long run benifit both HTC and the community I think.
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I Think this is a great idea. I cant see it doing any harm, say advertise it as one month " free " promotion. When they see some real Arena action the may get really hooked like us and Sign up for the MA.
Just looking at above posts I see some people actually worried that this may work!! :p
Furzy
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I personally dont like the idea, however I am for more attendance in the CT.
1) they should pay as everyone else does. It is a very reasonable price. Even the youngsters could arrange their allowance through mom's credit card, or if parents could arrange a debit card for them.
2) I am not labeling all that fly in H2H. However I have stepped into some H2H arenas before and when I would shoot a few down in so called "free for all" fights, I would promptly be disconnected. The behavior I experienced at times tells me the people using those arenas have a low maturity level and can be downright unpleasant. ;)
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well as a fellow H2H'r for the time being, This Idea Sucks. There I sead it. Pay to Fly in the MA and CT. We are allredy playing for free in a way.
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As Skurj says all this will cost HTC in more bandwidth, not only that but they will have to change their billing system and al lthe headaches that go with that to accomodate a few players. I think HTC have done more than enough to entice players to try Aces High by giving players free 8 player head to head and a free no obligation two week trial.
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Hey cajun, and kevin too...
You guys should be thinking about other things than gettin lost in an online game....
when i was 14 that kinda included, girls, saving for wheels..., that sorta stuff...
do ya really wanna start your pastey carreer just yet? +)
Anyways!! i bet you could go down your street and offer to cut grass, and make $15 a week just cuttin one lawn...
SKurj
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Originally posted by Mudshark
Hi, This is really directed towards Kevin14,
Now don't get me wrong, when you only make 6 bucks a week, yeah 15 dollars a month is pretty steep, But... I recal vividly being 12. I wanted a Moped (anyone remember those?) Asked my parents if I could have one. "Sure, they said...." but coming up with the funds was another matter. If I wanted one, I had to buy it. I spent alot of time that summer, MOWING LAWNS.... That's something a 12 year old can do. Schools out, you got some time, Might have enough left over to get yourself a stick... Or buy a nice young girl a pizza and a movie. There are all kinds of things a 12 year old can do to make some money. Some of the local grocery stores let kids carry your bags to the car for tips. Get imagineative (much like my spelling) and wing in the main.
Mudshark
OH... Bring the Gloster Gladiator to Aces High
Yep, when I was 12 I was doing pretty darn good for myself. Mowing lawns in the Summer, raking leaves in the fall, shoveling snow in the winter and wishing I could think of something to do in the spring lol.
Tumor
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in h2h,,or in main,,i have seen babies and kids in each of them,,,,, you run into bad people know matter what game you play,,lol,,,just got too keep a eye out for the good rooms,,rooms with bkwidow,,,rosc,,haksaw,,,they are good h2h pilots,,and main pilots,,not all h2h pilots are little kids,,but,,i agree,,,your going to get alot of vulching and stuff in a rookies room,because they dont know,,or care to host a room right,,as for main and ct,,i beleve you should pay,,so we keep hightech runing,,and get more planes and support for our money
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I would like it if HTC makes AH cheaper for kids retirees jobless people...
Let's say 5$ if u are <16
and 15$ if u are >=16...
I would like it if HTC makes AH cheaper for families (brother sister father mother kids)
Let's say 5$ for each additional account
But, no thx, no arena for free
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I liked Aces High better (at least the community) when it was $29.95/month. So yeah, if I had any input (and I don't) I would say "raise the price to $30/month." :)
curly
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I think you people aren't looking at the whole picture. It sounds as if y'all think that HTC's cost of doing business centers around bandwidth and servers only...what about the ongoing developement costs? Servers and bandwidth are just a small portion of what it costs to do this type of business. Giving away or even reducing HTC's income isn't in their or our best intertest IMO.
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Well, they could always be used as ground troops. Unarmed though. Rifles would cost 14.95$/month ;).
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Originally posted by Hristo
Well, they could always be used as ground troops. Unarmed though. Rifles would cost 14.95$/month ;).
LOL hristo:)
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Well here's my 2 cents....
Most do not understand the cost involved for HTC to run this project. Servers and bandwidth is just the tip of the iceberg.
How much time do you think is involved, just to model one plane. How many news do we have and have coming ?
I can tell ya how much time goes into a map and wish I got paid for it lol
I would like to see a bigger H2H, 16 players would be perfect for the type of WAR room I like.
The other thing that I hear and see most in H2H, is "I don't want to fly that far" So...what you going to do in the CT or any other Arena. Flying is apart of the game.
Sure I want in the CT, But when I'm ready, I'll pay.
Bottom Line: leave it the way it is and UP the H2H.
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Well I understand how they cant run a room for free now I guess, but everyone seems to be ignoring the CT or SEA only events for about $7.50 Idea...
Or maybe up the max players in the h2h to maybe 10-12? but as 16 as hawk suggested would be a little high though, then the h2h rooms would be about as populated as the CT lol :)
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You guys are making the mistake that you are paying for the arenas.
You aren't, you are paying for the service. If you paid for the arenas, there would be an hourly charge like how WB used to be.
I don't use the CT, SEA, DA, or TA... why should I pay $15/mo just for the MA?
The H2H is a promo for the product, you aren't HTC's customers until you pay for their service... so why should H2H players be given any concessions by HTC?
-SW
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Originally posted by AKcurly
I liked Aces High better (at least the community) when it was $29.95/month. So yeah, if I had any input (and I don't) I would say "raise the price to $30/month." :)
curly
For any that don't know, Curly is an old fart. :D
(now where'd I put that grecian formula)
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lol Hristo. That was good :)
Westy
(I'd vote for free account use on C-47's and M3's)
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Originally posted by K West
(I'd vote for free account use on C-47's and M3's)
LOL if we had that, we'd suddenly be seeing 100's of swarms of m-3's and C47's when you want to take a base wouldn't even have to take down AA just get the H2Her's to come over and drop 200 troops lol :)...
PS. See westy I don't ONLY post about biplanes :D :p :D
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Hey I have it on good authority that the folks that fly in the CT are considered elitests. Allowing H2Hers in there for free would be akin to giving grey poupon to a bag lady wouldn't it?
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:) Cajun.
Base taking matters not to me much. I'd just enjoy blasting the endless targets out of the sky or off the gound ;) Better than AI!
Westy
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BTW... I've seen a few too many references to a "$7.50" 1 arena account. Can't help but notice there is a very obvious flaw to this. Do you think this would attract more customers... enough to offset the number of $15/mo accounts that decide they only fly in one arena anyways... so why not do it at a lesser price?
AH is $15/mo for arena access. Its a very fair price.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Corwin
Hey I have it on good authority that the folks that fly in the CT are considered elitests. Allowing H2Hers in there for free would be akin to giving grey poupon to a bag lady wouldn't it?
:p
You forget, the H2H'ers are prolly the elitest of all, it is much harder in the h2h than MA where there are endless targets and newb's I remember when I first flew in the h2h i was suprised out how much harder it was than the MA, and in team games on the H2H if your gonna capture bases and stuff you gotta really use teamwork cuz its usuelly 1-2 planes trying to take a feild/sink a carrier by themselves... though most people just furball, lotsa them like to capture feilds like me.
Also they have more experiance in furballing, 1 they furball allot more often 2 they do it with allot less planes, that means theres no allies around for you to drag the guy on your tail to. Once I was flying a zero in the h2h, had 3 kills went into a 4vs1, the battle lasted about 10-15 mins, I shot 1 guy down ran outta ammo and had to ditch cuz of fuel.
Of course you must fly in the fair rooms, like simicade,blkwidow, and my game (I know there are more just cant remember the host's) (usuelly what I host are early war europe theater on a map that I made :) or pac theatre which i will host when all the new pac planes come out :) ) to find a good fight.
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good idea cajun. It should be tottaly free though :) Or maybe make H2H arenas with up to 32 people in them, for hosts that have REALLy fast connections. After all, they should not take up resources from the AH servers.
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Originally posted by udet
good idea cajun. It should be tottaly free though :) Or maybe make H2H arenas with up to 32 people in them, for hosts that have REALLy fast connections. After all, they should not take up resources from the AH servers.
Hope you aren't serious. There is no profit for HTC by allowing people by freely use their hosting software for big games.
If you can play with 32 people, or pay $15 and play with 200+, you'll prolly go the free route because "it's good enough".
Seriously, think these things through guys.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
Hope you aren't serious. There is no profit for HTC by allowing people by freely use their hosting software for big games.
If you can play with 32 people, or pay $15 and play with 200+, you'll prolly go the free route because "it's good enough".
Seriously, think these things through guys.
-SW
Hey, don't get me wrong, as soon as I can afford it, I will sign up for MA, you guys are wonderful and all that.
However, i don't think I will EVER have the time to play AH every day. It just won't happen. There are countless things to do besides playing on the computer. Therefore,for now, I shall stick to H2H.
And I was 1/2 serious, not more :) Maybe 16 people for h2h arenas. How does that sound?
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The point is that H2H is a promotion for Aces High... the H2H thing is to attract paying customers by giving them a preview. The side effect is that people can play there for free if they can't afford it, it costs HTC resources to program the game for H2H... but you guys are getting it for free. You even have your own forum setup. Be grateful for what you have.
I don't have time to fly every day of the week either. If you think that's all paying customers do, you are very misinformed. I haven't gotten above 10 hours in several (5-6) months. Last tour- 30 days- I flew for a total of 3 1/2 hours.
And $15 a month? If you desire to play it, you should be prepared to pay for it. Get a job if you don't have one, or just skip out on buying something that'll cost you that $15 for that month. I haven't bought new clothes in about 8 months.. and I didn't buy that many to begin with.
As it is, the H2H function is a hand out.. that costs HTC money in development.. and their servers are also the ones that show you the individual server names. Without HTC's servers, you can't play AH H2H except for over a LAN.
So basically, just be happy with what you have.
-SW
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I dont have much to say because i dont desire to pay to play at al right now, not that this isnt an awesome game, but time is very limited for a senior in high school. but it makes me mad to see all these guys saying how easy it is to pay 15 bucks a month. i could pay that much, but that would leave me down to 5 bucks a week for gas and food. i have my whole life budgeted to how much money i make. but to those guys who say how easy it is to make 15 bucks, u have no idea what an individual might have in their life, u may have it easy but other people might be struggling to make money. and of course ur granted to ur opinion, but u dont need to bash everyone just because they have theirs. tell ur opinion and leave the bashing out of it.
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Sharkm8, you'd be surprised.....
It is easy to get $15 a month... just don't buy something that costs $15.. like I said, I haven't bought any new clothes in 8 months. Shoes? I bought a new pair 10 months ago, the last pair I had lasted me for 2 years.
I didn't bash anyone, but to say that getting $15 is hard... it isn't if you have a job. Unless you're only making $2.75 an hour... in which case you probably work 2 or more jobs and shouldn't have time to play computer games anyway...
-SW
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nevermind that we were all in high school at some point... trying to find spendin money. And if u make $35 a month... Sorry you need another job...
SKurj
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You people misunderstand, cajun and I both disagree with the free arena idea now that we've though about it, yet you keep on insisting to tell us why its a bad idea, so if you could read the entire thread instead of just the first post these threads would make more sense and be less frustrating if we could keep the ideas flowing.
Also, someone mentioned entering an H2H arena and getting kicked after a few kills, it happens a lot, the host was probably some "punk" from MA that just got here after his free time was up
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Not a good idea IMHO.
The current price is an exelent deal. (without the warps)
Viper
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Originally posted by Kevin14
You people misunderstand, cajun and I both disagree with the free arena idea now that we've though about it, yet you keep on insisting to tell us why its a bad idea, so if you could read the entire thread instead of just the first post these threads would make more sense and be less frustrating if we could keep the ideas flowing.
Also, someone mentioned entering an H2H arena and getting kicked after a few kills, it happens a lot, the host was probably some "punk" from MA that just got here after his free time was up
(points at Kevin14)
You don't understand!
If you change your mind after 2 pages of posts have come to pass, and I don't choose to read them all because I have "other" things to do...
Viper
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No.
$15 is not all that much more than people pay for an Everquest account. It's not unreasonable. The product is excellent.
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Swoop
Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 989
It's not about "affording it".
It's more of an initial "How much?!?!?!!" kind of reaction. And then ya get the complaints about no realistic countries and planesets.......but with the above pricing scheme I could retort with the line "Well, a realistic arena is actually cheaper.....".
I don't think we need the customers with that mindset, do you?
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+) heh must salute these young guys <$>
They state their points in a more mature manner than many of these "old" guys.
SKurj +)
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Originally posted by SKurj
+) heh must salute these young guys <$>
They state their points in a more mature manner than many of these "old" guys.
SKurj +)
lol your salute "<$>" is very appropriate for this thread :)
<$>
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If I could go back into the MA I would be chomping at the bit to do so. But my parents do not want me playing a video game that I have to PAY for to play. They don't want me playing that much either so I don't think they would appreciate me playing a video game enough to pay for it. When I'm in college or out of college I will definitely pay for the MA with a good job that pays about $15 an hour. So
HTC
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<----- H2H till mid July. Than looking for LW squadren. Good Ju88 guy I am.
YAY YOUNG PEOPLE !!! Still. Fork up the money and quityabellyaching.:rolleyes:
:D
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Originally posted by Rude
It's more of an initial "How much?!?!?!!" kind of reaction. And then ya get the complaints about no realistic countries and planesets.......but with the above pricing scheme I could retort with the line "Well, a realistic arena is actually cheaper.....".
I don't think we need the customers with that mindset, do you?
Why not?
We've already got whiners, swearers, potato peelers, numpties, bellybutton holes and Creamo........what's wrong with some tight wads who're naturally resistant to sales pitches?
:D
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You play you pay.
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well,,,the problem i think,,aint the 15 bucks,,,most anyone,,even a street bum can get 15bucks,,,but!!,,some people do have othere agenda's and responciblities first,,lol,,,like bills,,house,,cars,,gas,,,food,,,all these things match up,,right now,,i have 3 riggs,,,1 moto bike,,,,a house,,,light bill,,,water bill,,,,sewer,,,on and on,,lol,,some times life gets every bit of cash you got,,lol,,i can afford main,,and im going too,,but dont point at the people that cant afford it,,,because not everyone lives at home:),,hehaheha,,,,i like aces high,,and i wouldnt mind giving them my 15 bucks a month,,,,,i think there worth paying for<$> lol,,the dollar sign was good,,,hehahe
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hyena426 u really like commas aren't u? :D
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Originally posted by Kevin14
If I could go back into the MA I would be chomping at the bit to do so. But my parents do not want me playing a video game that I have to PAY for to play. They don't want me playing that much either so I don't think they would appreciate me playing a video game enough to pay for it. When I'm in college or out of college I will definitely pay for the MA with a good job that pays about $15 an hour. So HTC
Maybe HTC should hire the Dell Dewd. :D
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ya,,commas rules:D
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I second the opinion that H2H should be allowed to fly goons in MA. I even suggest allowing free-riders to man fixed guns, in order to stop the tide of boxes of bombers coming in 1.10 :)
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If I could go back into the MA I would be chomping at the bit to do so. But my parents do not want me playing a video game that I have to PAY for to play. They don't want me playing that much either so I don't think they would appreciate me playing a video game enough to pay for it. When I'm in college or out of college I will definitely pay for the MA with a good job that pays about $15 an hour. So HTC
Kevin14
Just tell them that it keeps you off the street where you'd be hanging out with hooligans and fast girls :) (not that hooligans and fast girls are really such a bad thing in moderation, mind you :) )
Seriously, a Jr. rate would potentially be a good long term marketing tool, provided it covered operational costs and wasn't too much of a verification burden for the staff. One of the biggest issues with Major League Baseball today is that it's too expensive for younger fans to see a game, and even for their parents to take the family to too many games in a season. Therefore, interest declines.
Flight sims are a niche market compared to other online game formats and need some fostering to build (though HT's AH/WW2OL approach could change that equation with the 1st person shooter and tank aspects). Once hooked though, people can stay loyally in a community for a decade or so.
BTW -- isn't it something when people think $15 a month for an online game is expensive :) My top AW bill was about $200, though I'm sure many of you have me beat by a good margin :)
Charon